Do NPD/BPD make there devious plans?

[bus boy]

Do they plan or just do?  BPD's/NPD's seem to have a devious agenda. Or at least my Xw. Sometimes see looked like she was hundreds of miles away.

[Rayban]

I think they will continously test you're comitment to them. For me, it was her continuously push to see how much I was willing to accept.  I would break up with her, only to accept another  recycle.

I think they will continue to plan their devious plans as long as their are people willing to put up with it.

[bus boy]

Yes, of course. That makes so much since. I have detached so much in the past year, it seems my detaching is causing xw to amp up her harassment of my sister.

[Soulcrushed4]

Perhaps a combination?

There are various instances where my ex had to put some serious effort into his manipulations... .move a pawn here, butter up a supply source there, put out feelers for which ex/previous pawn would take the bait, establish cover stories and allies.

I often said if he spent as much time doing good as he did perpetuating the drama and chaos he would be unstoppable at attaining supposed goals. Looking back perhaps that was part of the issue... .his stated goals to me were just him mirroring my goals and then due to his lack of solid sense of self he dawned a different mask for the next person he connected with that day and mirrored them.

[Confused108]

Yes I belive my ex planned everything with me. She went after me for 2 1/2 years until I was stupid and believed her lies. Then at the end she projected everything in me and acted like she was the innocent victim.