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« on: December 01, 2024, 03:09:45 PM »

So long story short, we met and had a toxic relationship lasting 8 months roughly with her coming and going every week using the silent treatment and going no contact. We had each others social media passwords etc. and locations plus we would always indirectly post things aimed at each other during the periods of no contact. after her coming and going 24 times I had enough and initiated a breakup myself which lasted 5 months.

One day I was out at a pub and she came over the road drunk approaching me asking to talk and if we could go back to my flat to which I politely declined. two days later a text message asking to speak as she missed me. (I've done over 8 months day in day out hours per day of research on bpd and ive got a large amount of knowledge and often would talk her out or through when she was splitting). long story short we spoke and reconciled. she claimed she had not been with anyone else during the 5 months apart and was insistent on this she just had a few days of speaking with someone but it never went any further. I certainly hadn't been with anyone else either.

The good lasted about a month and its been 4 months now she has been back in my life but her behaviour has gotten worse a few days ago breakup number 36 happened (again frequently this continued with her disappearing for 2-3 weeks at a time to go out clubbing and call me on no caller id asking to talk and promising me this and that etc.) her behaviours in the last 4 months since reconciliation has been disgusting she was caught grinding on some other person in the club to then cry for 3 days hysterically begging me not to leave her and giving me 18 page love letters full of love. to then a week later saying that's how she felt then this is now to her turning up 2 weeks ago 4th time accusing me of cheating me growing suspicious that she was projecting as this time around (she was very sneaky with her phone and allowing me any type of access to it and also thinking it was okay to keep pushing the boundaries by getting random lads numbers and continuing to go out clubbing whilst screaming at me if I said I was going to go).

3 weeks ago she reached out as usual (came accusing me of cheating again but since knowing her ive never even had 1 girl on my phone or social media and I don't do female friends personally) half an hour later she tried to walk out into the ocean as a suicide attempt claiming "she has had enough of wearing a mask for everyone around her pretending that she is okay" i comforted her and the next 3 days she seemed incredibly depressed and dependent on me which wasnt and never would be an issue. calling me crying saying she doesnt want to be left alone in the flat so i took her with me to work so i could comfort her i sat with her talked her through bpd and how she feels and understood she then purchased me loads of gifts explaining she loves me so much and knows she takes me for granted but she's so appreciative of me. this was nice to hear as id never heard it from her (unsure why the gifts as she never ever brought me gifts ever im now thinking the mental breakdown and gifts were a sign of guilt for something she has done but hasn't mentioned). the next day she woke up i asked how she was and she said she felt fine since that day she's gone back to her usual self.


Today it has been about 10 days of no contact (she ended it again as I said piss off to her in an argument) 1 day into the breakup I reached out and comfortingly suggested she comes round to talk and learn more on bpd since she kept saying she wanted to learn and do something about it. (she's ubpd) she never come to mine but instead went to her friends I tried to call for an hour no response then 2 hours then she started acting weird I texted saying answer your phone she replied "why" like what do you mean why I said are you cheating as I had a gut feeling she then said no its just me and my friend her I said okay then answer your phone she said hold on and went to her friends bathroom to call me... wtf? weird.

Today was 10 days no contact so I texted to see how she is, she left it on read so I got frustrated and asked her why is she ignoring me. I did tell her within the last few days that she's not to come near me anymore until she learns to respect my boundaries and give equal give and take at all times like passwords etc. i said tonight all the signs are there that you're talking to someone else so just tell me if you are and im now blocked everywhere after her saying our ship has sailed I don't want anything to do with you anymore.

I believe she has monkey branched to someone else as there isn't a fight from her anymore or any defending herself on my questioning. wtf? she's turned into someone i never thought she would be. The girl that claims to despise cheaters, the girl that claims she wants to be with me until we die, the girl that claims to never move on. just like many people here i had a saviour complex believing i could fix her and that showering her with love would fix her. or believing we are an exception when reading stories on this sub thinking and fully believing that would never happen to me or us. what do you guys think. I'm heartbroken right now realising it was all a mask specific for me. none of it was real. wtaf?
thanks for reading.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2024, 08:06:41 AM »

Which part of the story (above) happened since your breakup in October?
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2024, 12:17:28 PM »

Which part of the story (above) happened since your breakup in October?

Hello again skip, since my last post regarding the flowers and teddy this has happened from here:
to then a week later saying that's how she felt then this is now to her turning up 2 weeks ago 4th time accusing me of cheating me growing suspicious that she was projecting as this time around (she was very sneaky with her phone and allowing me any type of access to it and also thinking it was okay to keep pushing the boundaries by getting random lads numbers and continuing to go out clubbing whilst screaming at me if I said I was going to go). 3 weeks ago she reached out as usual (came accusing me of cheating again but since knowing her ive never even had 1 girl on my phone or social media and I don't do female friends personally) half an hour later she tried to walk out into the ocean as a suicide attempt claiming "she has had enough of wearing a mask for everyone around her pretending that she is okay" i comforted her and the next 3 days she seemed incredibly depressed and dependent on me which wasnt and never would be an issue. calling me crying saying she doesnt want to be left alone in the flat so i took her with me to work so i could comfort her i sat with her talked her through bpd and how she feels and understood she then purchased me loads of gifts explaining she loves me so much and knows she takes me for granted but she's so appreciative of me. this was nice to hear as id never heard it from her (unsure why the gifts as she never ever brought me gifts ever im now thinking the mental breakdown and gifts were a sign of guilt for something she has done but hasn't mentioned). the next day she woke up i asked how she was and she said she felt fine since that day she's gone back to her usual self.
today it has been about 10 days of no contact (she ended it again as I said piss off to her in an argument) 1 day into the breakup I reached out and comfortingly suggested she comes round to talk and learn more on bpd since she kept saying she wanted to learn and do something about it. (she's ubpd) she never come to mine but instead went to her friends I tried to call for an hour no response then 2 hours then she started acting weird I texted saying answer your phone she replied "why" like what do you mean why I said are you cheating as I had a gut feeling she then said no its just me and my friend her I said okay then answer your phone she said hold on and went to her friends bathroom to call me... wtf. weird.
today was 10 days no contact so I texted to see how she is, she left it on read so I got frustrated and asked her why is she ignoring me. I did tell her within the last few days that she's not to come near me anymore until she learns to respect my boundaries and give equal give and take at all times like passwords etc. i said tonight all the signs are there that you're talking to someone else so just tell me if you are and im now blocked everywhere after her saying our ship has sailed I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
I believe she has monkey branched to someone else as there isnt a fight from her anymore or any defending herself on my questioning. wtf she's turned into someone i never thought she would be. The girl that claims to despise cheaters, the girl that claims she wants to be with me until we die, the girl that claims to never move on. just like many people here i had a saviour complex believing i could fix her and that showering her with love would fix her. or believing we are an exception when reading stories on this sub thinking and fully believing that would never happen to me or us. what do you guys think. I'm heartbroken right now realising it was all a mask specific for me. none of it was real. wtaf.
thanks for reading.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2024, 01:18:33 PM »

Hi IMissHer21... sounds like there's been a lot of painful back-and-forth recently. I don't think anyone wants that in their relationship... it's stressful and it hurts.

There's a human dynamic that we most often see in teenagers. Here's how it goes.

Parent: "You were out late... you were using drugs, weren't you? All your friends are!"

Teen, who was not using drugs at all: "I wasn't, I swear!"

Parent: "Yeah right... that's the kind of thing kids say when they're getting high. You're grounded for the next month!"

Teen: "If I'm getting grounded for doing nothing wrong, I may as well go get high anyway!"

Nobody likes being accused of doing things they aren't doing -- nobody likes being accused, period (even if they're doing something).

Sometimes accusing a partner of doing something comes out of fear. We love them and are afraid to lose them, so we hope that if we suspect them of doing something, we'll get a good result: the partner tells us, "No way, I'd never cheat, I love you!"

Unfortunately, our fears can drive us to do ineffective things. If we want to keep a relationship, making accusations of cheating doesn't build it up.

She's accused you of cheating and that hurts you at your core. You don't feel like she understands the real you. Like you said, you value not cheating.

You've accused her of cheating. That's a big thing to tell a partner. You've experienced being on the receiving end -- it's hard to want to feel close with someone saying that to you.

If you're thinking about reconnecting, maybe we can work with you to find a different way to express your fears of being cheated on -- ways that won't push her away from you (like that "teenager" dynamic above).

she's turned into someone i never thought she would be. The girl that claims to despise cheaters, the girl that claims she wants to be with me until we die, the girl that claims to never move on. just like many people here i had a saviour complex believing i could fix her and that showering her with love would fix her. or believing we are an exception when reading stories on this sub thinking and fully believing that would never happen to me or us. what do you guys think. I'm heartbroken right now realising it was all a mask specific for me. none of it was real.

A lot of members wonder the same thing -- was it real.

We used to have a staff member here who was recovered BPD. Here's what she shared about her experience of love:

Did she ever love me?

Give that a read, and let us know what you think.

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Has she reached out to you at all this past week?
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2024, 04:51:07 PM »

Hello Kells76,

Since my previous response yes she reached out again but it was 3 weeks of silent treatment then she FaceTimed me at 4am in tears panicking saying “I can’t do this” “I need you” this time I was not happy with being left for 3 weeks and instead of initially being supportive I told her no and told her a bit about herself. Half an hour after this call she was back partying with relatives and just not taking me or us seriously as usual. She tried to call about 20 more times between 4-7 but I didn’t answer this time. 2 days later we spoke and she come round to my flat. At first we said we didn’t want to talk but then we ended up talking and having sex. I still had a gut feeling that she has been speaking to others so I checked her phone whilst she was in the bathroom and lo and behold she had added an ex talking stage back on Snapchat. I flipped lost it and told her no more I can’t continue with you anymore. You’re saying all the right things to me but your actions are showing me different time and time again and all I get is “oh I’m sorry” and the bad behaviour continues. She then left the flat walked off I followed and she tried to walk into the ocean again. Frustrated/Unfortunate (click to insert in post) I hate seeing her this way the last 2 days shes had an insane mental breakdown and had to have the ambulance called. (No self harming) I explained and told her don’t worry no matter what I won’t abandon you and I will stay by your side through all of this repeating that she isn’t alone. But as far as a romantic relationship goes I just don’t know anymore this made her start saying things like please I’ll delete Snapchat I’ll get better I’ll do whatever it takes but shes said all of this before. She’s been incredibly low crying her eyes out and when I gently ask her to please let me in or let me help or ask her what are you feeling it’s just met with “I don’t know” I don’t think the breakdown shes been having have been strictly due to our relationship shes genuinely never been this way up until the last 2 months having the worst mental breakdowns ever. Like last night after what I found I was calm collected and stayed supporting her all day and night and we made plans for her to come stay with me so she could feel safe and just in a quiet space feeling loved. 10 minutes before her shift ended the plans got replaced by her friends showing up and escorting her out of her workplace her in tears completely blanking me with her two friends who told me to leave her alone. An hour later I called her and her mum picks up to say the same thing and that her dad is coming to get her to take her a few hundred miles away for a while. wtf . wtf is going on. I have been the only one for months who figured out what it is (bpd) and I’ve been so patient so forgiving not a saint by any means I’ve been reactive some times and angry but I’m learning day by day too. Why is any of this happening. It’s been 24 hours since I’ve heard anything and I just don’t know what is going on I’ve been in a state of worry all day. I hate this absolutely hate it. I haven’t reached out due to being told by two people to leave her alone. But I worry so much and miss her every second that passes regardless of the things she’s done.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2024, 06:04:57 PM »

Yeah, that level of intensity in a relationship is really hard. You'd like things to be known and settled -- it's so uncomfortable wondering and not knowing.

How are you managing your anxiety and worry right now? Positive/neutral things you are doing for yourself, not centered on her or dependent on her. Working out, gym, journaling, lifting weights, getting outside, breathing exercises, talking to someone you trust. Maybe focus on that first -- get yourself back to an emotional baseline. Hard to make wise relational choices when we're wound up.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2024, 06:42:05 PM »

Hello Kells76,

Yes it is very uncomfortable wondering and not knowing what’s going on. It’s been 2 days since the last post but there’s been no movement really. I sent a message yesterday asking how she is as I was worried all day and night about her and she replied back saying she was in the hospital with her dad with the crisis mental health team and when I asked why hadn’t she got ahold of me she just said “I thought I needed you but turns out I don’t anymore” wtf. So all these 8 months I’ve been the only one trying to help her pointing out that I believe what’s going on with her is BPD. I tried talking to her friends family who all dismissed my claims. The minute shes had a breakdown and people actually see her without the mask shes been keeping up for everyone now they want to believe it. And now they all are around her I clearly have no use whatsoever I’ve been thrown like a trash. I’ve sat depressed for today but at the same time I just keep reminding myself of all the bs. I mean ffs the last time I was with her in person she had re added some kid she’s kissed from the Past and when I was understandably angry she just threw it all in my face and said “I’ve said sorry” like what you’ve said sorry hundreds of times and you keep f*cking up constantly micro cheating when the things shes done over the last year and a half I simply wouldn’t. Ever even think of doing to her ever. It’s bullPLEASE READ. Apparently she has gone to Liverpool today  but not confirmed unsure for how long but it’s just the complete coldness and lack of understanding or even love for me at all.

I am familiar with object constancy and splitting/black and white thinking so I can see the dynamic of course but it’s just so PLEASE READ.
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