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« on: March 16, 2025, 01:38:14 PM »

I just wanted to tell my story because I don't really have any friends that I feel comfortable bringing this to and I've heard talking about what happened to you is helpful for healing from a trauma bond. So thank you to whoever reads this.

In June of last year I walked away. I stated my boundary that I wasn't going to be yelled at anymore. I had reached my breaking point and it was a simple boundary I felt I could stick to. In the following months I would come back every few days to spend time with her or do some repair/chore she didn't want to do, and it would always end with me having to enforce my boundary and leave.

In August, we went to my therapist for couples counselling but she never took it seriously. I spent the next few months grieving the loss and doing okay at moving on. I've immersed myself fully in healing with therapy, groups, exercise, repairing my relationship with my parents, volunteering once a week, I'm looking at returning to the college I dropped out 15 years ago when I first met her and couldn't keep up with the demands of both the relationship and school.  From an outsiders perspective I'm excelling, my therapist (who I began seeing after our first break up in 2017) has commended the growth she's seen in me since then including my ability to leave this abusive relationship. I'm also almost 4 years sober from a very severe alcohol use disorder that used to require hospital stays to detox from.

Everything is going good.
But I've never felt lower.


In December, she got into a new relationship and I haven't felt the same since. It no longer feels like I made the tough decision to leave and did the right thing. Coming up on one year since enforcing my boundary and I'm completely lost and struggling to make connections with anyone else while she's off in a new relationship. It's mind boggling how it feels like the tables have turned on me and I'm just struggling everyday with rumination and thoughts of her with her new partner.

It's worse than just emotional pain. I feel numb, weak, tingling sensations in my hands and arms, nauseated. This trauma bond is almost an exact replication of my addiction to alcohol only this time the chemicals are something my own body is making. Instead of the burn of alcohol in my throat and stomach I seek out the burn of thinking about her having sex with her new partner. Or connecting on a deeper emotional level with them than they were able to with me. There is even some relief after just like there is with the alcohol, obviously I'm not drunk, but it's like I've exhausted my body with chemicals in a different way and pass out from being emotionally exhausted. I know how bad she is for me and how out of control she makes my nervous system, but somehow in my PLEASE READed up brain that soothes me. I PLEASE READing hate this PLEASE READ.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2025, 04:01:41 AM »

Hi and welcome.

Sorry to hear you're going through this tough time - everyone of us who's been in a BPD relationship has gone through the same rumination stage of constantly wondering 'Is she having a better time with her new partner?'

The answer of course is, unless she first accepts she has a problem and commits to professional help - which you say she couldn't do - then the new relationship will play out the same as the old once the idealisation phase wears off and the BPD kicks in fully.

From December to now isn't a long time and she will still be in the idealisation stage but once the cracks start showing it will follow the same, very predictable script. The only difference may be in how much her new partner is prepared to put up with; whether he can enforce boundaries like you did or if he's a doormat and lets her walk all over him. She will not be any happier with him than she was with you because her BPD will not ever let her be happy.

From what you say you're doing fantastically so concentrate on yourself and staying physically and mentally healthy - you're the only person you'll ever have full control of. You did all you could to make the relationship work, as I'm sure we all did in our own cases, so try not to let the ruminations spoil the progress you've now made.

Best wishes.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2025, 12:38:47 AM »

I just wanted to tell my story because I don't really have any friends that I feel comfortable bringing this to and I've heard talking about what happened to you is helpful for healing from a trauma bond. So thank you to whoever reads this.

In June of last year I walked away. I stated my boundary that I wasn't going to be yelled at anymore. I had reached my breaking point and it was a simple boundary I felt I could stick to. In the following months I would come back every few days to spend time with her or do some repair/chore she didn't want to do, and it would always end with me having to enforce my boundary and leave.

In August, we went to my therapist for couples counselling but she never took it seriously. I spent the next few months grieving the loss and doing okay at moving on. I've immersed myself fully in healing with therapy, groups, exercise, repairing my relationship with my parents, volunteering once a week, I'm looking at returning to the college I dropped out 15 years ago when I first met her and couldn't keep up with the demands of both the relationship and school.  From an outsiders perspective I'm excelling, my therapist (who I began seeing after our first break up in 2017) has commended the growth she's seen in me since then including my ability to leave this abusive relationship. I'm also almost 4 years sober from a very severe alcohol use disorder that used to require hospital stays to detox from.

Everything is going good.
But I've never felt lower.


In December, she got into a new relationship and I haven't felt the same since. It no longer feels like I made the tough decision to leave and did the right thing. Coming up on one year since enforcing my boundary and I'm completely lost and struggling to make connections with anyone else while she's off in a new relationship. It's mind boggling how it feels like the tables have turned on me and I'm just struggling everyday with rumination and thoughts of her with her new partner.

It's worse than just emotional pain. I feel numb, weak, tingling sensations in my hands and arms, nauseated. This trauma bond is almost an exact replication of my addiction to alcohol only this time the chemicals are something my own body is making. Instead of the burn of alcohol in my throat and stomach I seek out the burn of thinking about her having sex with her new partner. Or connecting on a deeper emotional level with them than they were able to with me. There is even some relief after just like there is with the alcohol, obviously I'm not drunk, but it's like I've exhausted my body with chemicals in a different way and pass out from being emotionally exhausted. I know how bad she is for me and how out of control she makes my nervous system, but somehow in my PLEASE READed up brain that soothes me. I PLEASE READing hate this PLEASE READ.
A few things:

1) She's a woman. Women almost always have an easier time jumping into another relationship because women are pursued. Even a moderately attractive woman can have men beating the door down to get to her if they sense she's willing to give them what they want (i.e. sex).

2) Many, if not most, women with BPD (or anxiety, CPTSD, etc.) know that sex is a tool. Or a weapon. They understand innately how to use sex to attract and manipulate a man. Thus, they can very quickly have a man in a relationship with them to take care of their needs, whether they be emotional or material.

3) So, don't be surprised that your ex is in another relationship. Not to make your situation even tougher, but it's even possible she was already seeing that person or others while in the relationship with you. Women with BPD, etc., usually have an escape plan or two at any given time.

4) Someone with BPD, etc., is also an expert at projecting what it is they think the other person wants or needs to experience in order to stay with them. To a point. At some point, the mask always comes off. That means a lot of what we experience with them is not real. It's a fiction. Deep down, the person with BPD, etc., isn't real. They're a kind of blank slate. A template. If you think you had a deep, meaningful relationship with someone, the reality is you never really knew them. Worse, they never knew themselves. There's little, if any, "there" there.

All that said, none of this is about you. I know that may not make sense, but someone with BPD, etc., is profoundly mentally and/or emotionally ill. Their actions are independent of anything you're doing. They're operating on their own frequency. That's not to say your actions and reactions don't impact how they interact with you. It's to say what they ultimately do and why is wholly a function of their illness and how severe it is.

What that means is the only control you have is over your own destiny. And here's the important part:  You did the right thing by setting boundaries and sticking to them. You did the right thing by moving on.

What you're going through now is akin to a drug addict going through withdrawal. In the same way, you have to get past the point where you need the drug anymore. It will be tough, but you will get there.

Part of that journey is reminded yourself of all the pain and suffering you escaped. Like the drug addict, you're only thinking of the good things right now -- the high -- and ignoring all the bad things. And keep in mind there were many more bad things to come with her. Women with BPD can go into treatment and then into remission, but that's not as common as it sounds, and even then, they're never cured. They're always just one step away from relapse.

You now have a future. The task ahead is to remember that and move on. Find another relationship -- and don't expect the same depth of experiences because, as with point 4 above, those experiences came from a person who is a blank slate inside. Those experiences were not normal. They were not typical. They were with a person trying to be what they think you wanted. Normal human beings aren't like that. Normal human beings are themselves -- good, bad, and ugly. That's a person you can have a healthy relationship with.

Finally, keep in mind that whoever she's with is going through the exact same thing you did, if not worse. He or she thinks they're in a real relationship when they're not. At some point, the her mask will come off again. All the thoughts you have of them having a wonderful time together are flawed. Remember all the turmoil and disappointment you had with her -- that person is having those, too. The difference is you escaped. You won by getting out of that toxic relationship. Every time you feel the withdrawal, remind yourself of that. That's what the drug addict has to do. That's how you get past all the problems to recover.

Good luck -- you can do this.



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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2025, 09:42:06 AM »

little bit different perspective here  Being cool (click to insert in post)

any recovered drug addict will tell you that your addiction is entirely about you.

they will also tell you that the road to recovery is a path of self exploration.

the bottle or the drug is an inanimate object. it doesnt make you do anything, or not do anything. if it werent about you, youd simply put it down, and youd be just fine.

while you can become dependent upon a person, or a relationship, relationships are of course, more complex.

anyone who has recovered from a dysfunctional relationship will tell you that a relationship is a series of interactions. you cant have a dysfunctional relationship without two people participating in the dysfunction. otherwise, youd simply put it down, and youd be just fine. the relationships we choose, and the ways in which we struggle, are entirely about us. think about it: shes been long gone for a year. it stopped being about her a long time ago.

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This trauma bond is almost an exact replication of my addiction to alcohol

this is a rather important piece of data.

people that are prone to addiction/substance abuse usually have the same tendencies in their relationships, to lesser and greater degrees (depending on the nature of the relationship). addiction is dysfunctional in nature. that is entirely about you, and understanding that is key for all of us to breaking the dysfunctional pattern, if that is what we want to do. otherwise, there is nothing to be learned - bad things just happen to us out of our control.

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In December, she got into a new relationship and I haven't felt the same since. It no longer feels like I made the tough decision to leave and did the right thing.
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Coming up on one year and I'm completely lost and struggling to make connections with anyone else while she's off in a new relationship. It's mind boggling how it feels like the tables have turned on me and I'm just struggling everyday with rumination and thoughts of her with her new partner.

people prone to addiction/substance abuse are also prone to excessive external referencing.

your self doubts, your comparisons to her life, your difficulty making connections, these things are about you. it may hurt - and it usually does - to see an ex move on, but from 30000 ft, shes just living her life, right? she isnt doing something to you to cause this hurt. seeing what you saw just opened up what was already there inside of you.

so, when we suggest that her relationship will suck, or fail, or that she will behave no differently - all things people said to me during my recovery, that didnt really prove true - while it may feel good, it might not only be untrue, but it sort of misses the point. to pin our hopes on the outcome of our exes next relationship is to be very much attached. think about it: is anyone here going through this with an ex from say, middle school or high school? if someone is long gone, does how their next relationship goes have any actual bearing on us, good or bad? if it fails, does that vindicate you, or is it a fact of life (every relationship we ever have will fail except for one, if we are lucky). what if it succeeds? does that mean that you personally are a failure, or that its possible someone out there is better suited for your ex, just like someone out there is better suited for you? if we hope to detach, shouldnt that (our future) be the goal?

generally speaking, and if relationships are a series of interactions, we are all both the same and different from relationship to relationship. we take lessons (good and bad) from relationship to relationship. we change approaches that didnt work. we seek to find and recreate things we liked about past relationships/partners. we seek to avoid things we disliked. we all put our best foot forward and present a version of ourselves that we think will attract a mate. and, to greater and lesser degrees, we all do a little bit better the next time. people with bpd traits are no different in that regard than the rest of us; just more extreme. its also true to the extent that to the extent ones traits/behaviors are pathological, capacity for self awareness and change are more limited - but that isnt just true for her, either - it very much applies to us, and to you.

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Instead of the burn of alcohol in my throat and stomach I seek out the burn of thinking about her having sex with her new partner. Or connecting on a deeper emotional level with them than they were able to with me. There is even some relief after just like there is with the alcohol, obviously I'm not drunk, but it's like I've exhausted my body with chemicals in a different way and pass out from being emotionally exhausted

practically speaking, this isnt really different than cutting, is it?

its a coping mechanism - a dysfunctional one, in the sense that it reinforces the attachment youre working against. it doesnt feel sensible at first glance, because, ostensibly, you dont want to think about her, right? but there is a reward system at work behind it - otherwise, you wouldnt. addiction, and dopamine, all work this way.

if its something you want to stop (is it?), it helps first to understand whats at play, and then to replace dysfunctional coping mechanisms with new, healthier ones. easier said than done, of course. i had the same problem, to a lesser degree, with checking my exes social media after the breakup. its hard to say where that urge comes from, when logically youd rather not, but that urge builds and builds until you just give into it. and it reinforces itself. is it something youve talked about with your therapist? do you have alternative coping methods that you practice?

if it were me, i would look at my reaction - without judgment - as a reflection of where i am in my own detachment, and my own life contentment. the initial reaction is pretty normal - could happen to pretty much anyone - it just stings a bit to see an ex move on, and our minds tend to fill in the gaps. if youre not content in your own life, its easy to do, with anyone, if you look hard enough, and the initial reaction will tend to blow over. your struggle with it suggests that its a reflection of something deeper, that has nothing to do with her personally, and everything to do with your attachment.
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