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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: May 08, 2018, 01:48:18 PM »

Hello all! I'm in my late 20's and have been separated from my ex-husband for almost two years. We were married for almost 7 years.

My ex was very controlling, critical, and had very black-and-white thinking toward other people (someone would cut him off in traffic and he would say they should be pulled off the road and hit in the face with a hammer). I would get in trouble for folding phone cords the wrong way, or not being home every single night, and was accused of sucking up to my family members. He eventually isolated me from most of the people I care about in my life, and I spent a massive amount of energy shielding people from his unhealthy behavior.

Though I've been separated for two years and am now re-married (happily!), I've still been searching for answers as to WHY someone would treat me the way that my ex did. What made it worse is I couldn't pass it off as "Oh, he was just a jealous guy and that's what they do." It seemed like there was a deeper pattern -- something had to be motivating some of the truly bizarre arguments and accusations, paranoia, and anger I was experiencing in my relationship.

And then about two weeks ago I ran across a book about BPD by accident. Let me tell you, it has been life-changing. Now I can understand the pattern of behavior that my ex exhibited and I can start finding peace with what happened.

I'm here mostly because I'd love some support and validation from other people's stories that resemble mine, and I want to do more investigating as to ways that this disorder is still affecting my emotional habits.

Lots of love. <3
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 05:03:43 PM »

Hey whythulc, Welcome!  You've come to a great place where we really get it when it comes to BPD.  Your story is quite familiar.  Most of us are on this site in order to share our stories and make sense of our experiences after being in a failed BPD r/s.  It sounds like you have come through the ordeal and have moved on with your life, which is great to hear.  How did you happen to pick up a book about BPD?  The disorder is largely under the radar for most people, so you are not alone.  We are happy to have you join us here on the Detaching Board.  Feel free to ask any particular questions.

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2018, 11:43:35 AM »

In my case my ex had been misdiagnosed as schizophrenic and bi-polar.  Other than auditory and visual hallucinations she had no other symptoms of schizophrenia -but I took her diagnosis as gospel. 

It wasn't until after I had left her that I was reading a book by Jordan Peterson in which he mentions, in passing, a woman with BPD who cut herself.

I did some reading about BPD and it was as if someone had been taking notes on my entire experience -down to every detail and many of the things she said to me.  It was haunting!  In hoping to find more information I thankfully found this site.

Whythuic -I have been trying to sort out what in the hell I experienced and how it has effected me.  My tryst with BPD was short, only a year, but this experience shook me to my very foundation.  I left during the twilight of the idealization phase, so I never really felt the full brunt and fury of a life with a BPD partner --yet there is still fallout.


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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 09:03:49 AM »

LuckyJim, thanks for the warm welcome. I was initially Googling books to read when going through a divorce, and I found a list on the Huffington Post where people recommended books that helped them during the process, one of which was "Stop Walking on Eggshells."

I believe there is some Cluster B things at work in my family line, and suspected it in my husband as well, but nothing quite fit ... .until I read this book. And then example after example sounded like things he had said, and piece after piece I had stories I could directly tie to those ideas.

I always said my husband had an island. If you were his friend, you had LIFETIME LOYALTY and devotion from him. But the moment you did even the slightest thing he perceived as not in his favor (even normal things like drifting apart, or getting busy with new jobs/kids) and you were immediately cast off the island, and chalked up to why he couldn't trust anyone.

Before finding the book I posted on FB about "things I still irrationally anxious about," which included things like buying the wrong toilet paper, the wrong type of toothpaste, having more than one object in my backseat in my car, and putting the TV remotes back in the wrong spot. All of which were things I had experienced rages over. My friends were immediately like "WHHHOOAAA that's clearly abusive" and I was like, "?"

I knew it was terrible and ridiculous, but I was like, "My dudes, this is only a fraction of what I dealt with in my marriage!   "

I'm more than relieved to have found something that helps me process and understand the situation I was in.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 09:06:49 AM »

Wicker Man, thanks for the welcome! And even though your experience was shorter in the sense of time, you went through some very real truama.   I've found even since reading "Stop Walking on Eggshells" that my ex-husband's black and white thinking had infiltrated my mind and I was carrying so much guilt for leaving him.

It felt like I either was a monster for leaving, or not. And I couldn't accept the latter. But now, I see that it was his splitting that was causing me to look so negatively on myself. Now I can work on accepting what is and giving grace to myself.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2018, 09:52:42 AM »

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It felt like I ... .was a monster for leaving

During the idealization phase of our relationship I fell head over heals for her. As I learned more about BPD it was humbling to learn my experience of this fairytale love was run of the mill --a day in the life of beginning a relationship with someone suffering from BPD. Right down to the things she said to me.  I have read them word for word in other people's posts, as well in some of the learning documents on this site.  Something fascinating -she is a Chinese national and half of these things were said in Chinese, so there is not much cultural bearing on BPD (from my completely unscientific sample of 1).

It was incredibly hard to 'throw in the towel' -The reason I began posting here on BPD Family in the first place was my observation that my ex had no malicious intent.  Sure -she did horrible things, but I never saw intent.  Intent implies control and she had no control over her emotions whatsoever... .

The other thing which compelled me to begin posting is the immense compassion and pity I still hold for her.  I loved her more deeply than I had ever loved another human being -but I believe she would have destroyed me.  She actually told me this in so many words.  I had spent an evening talking her down from a near catatonic dysphoria -her eyes opened and she said in a weak voice 'You must leave me -I will destroy you'. -I believe this was her single most honest and deepest expression of love for me.

What made me finally break our engagement and leave was what you called the 'Island' concept.  When I left her I was not on the island I was the island. My story is long, but I will cut to the quick... .As I was preparing to make the last steps in closing up shop here and move to China (I know... .absurd, but I was in love) she began a 7 day rage -one evening she said 'We have nothing more to talk about'  -she broke up with me!  It was then that I had an epiphany -she would one day leave me.

I am a dyed in the wool full blown codependent people please --I prefer romantic, but perhaps that is avoidance Smiling (click to insert in post)   For me to take the steps to preemptively walk away from someone I adored for my self preservation was hard.  I don't feel guilty, just deeply saddened.  It was a beautiful dream, which I now know, at least intellectually, would have become a nightmare.

BPD is simply put a tragic disorder.  I hate the fact that she knows she pushed me away and I further hate she had no control over her actions when she did so.  -The scorpion and the frog.

On a lighter note... .  Your remote control story made me recall something.  Our apartment in Beijing was small, so everything had to be in order -also I have since learned it was likely out of her her compulsion.  Soo.  All paper products went into a specific drawer.  One morning she was sleeping and I rearranged the drawer, still all paper products, but organized differently.  She opened the drawer and said 'What have you done?'.  I said I think it is better... .  She started to spool up, looked in the drawer... .paused and said ':)amn... .It is better... .  We do it this your way from now on... .'

I have heard people refer to themselves as victims.  The only victim I saw in our relationship was a little girl who had had been the victim of an unimaginable childhood.  Yes, she hurt me, but I don't think I receive half as much torment as she feels on a day to day basis. --Perhaps my view would have changed if I had been in our relationship longer, but I am left with far more pity for her than I have for myself.

When I would pack my suitcase she would take everything out as fast as I put them in and re-fold them so they 'fit better'.  She did love me in her way.

I am not sure how our relationship has changed me yet.  I am still working on recovering from the hole leaving her has left within me.  Therapy helps.

I appreciate your thread and I will look within myself to see how the ghost of her may be effecting my emotional habits.


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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 10:14:23 AM »

Hey whythulc, Reading SWOE is eye-opening, isn't it?  Who knew there was such a thing as BPD?  I didn't until a T suggested I check out the book.  And that was nine years into my marriage, before which I was just swinging in the dark.  I knew something was wrong but had no idea what it was.

Nice to hear that you have remarried and moved on with your life.  The next inquiry, in my view, is why you married a pwBPD?  Hint: Usually it has something to do with one's FOO or other childhood trauma.

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 02:12:10 PM »

Welcome! This is a great board for venting, insights, advice, and so on. Your story sounds familiar to me and I'm sure quite a few others as well.

I'm in my 40s. I've been divorced from my ex (BPD\NPD) for a few years now. We were married for close to twenty years. He was and still is emotionally abusive and tries to control me via manipulation and through the kids. He rages at me still from time to time for various reasons. I'm also recently and very happily engaged to a wonderful and safe man.

I understand about the control, critical, black and white thinking too. For me, his rages were the worst. Very scary stuff. Some times it felt like being trapped in a bizarro-world. His NPD definitely didn't help matters.

Are you in therapy? I highly recommend finding a good therapist if you haven't already. One can help you put the pieces of the puzzle together as well as help you heal from it. My therapist has helped me to see the patterns as to why I kept dating (and then marrying) abusive men. I learned I was (am) co-dependent and learned to accept abuse as okay from my abusive NPD father.

I'm glad to hear you have remarried and moved on as well. Smiling (click to insert in post)

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