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« on: July 20, 2018, 05:38:39 PM »

Well... .today was moving day.  All of the stuff that she claims as hers is gone, and all that's left is mine to do with as I please. This was nearly the last step until our separation is truly complete... .just waiting on final filing of the court documents (which I realized is hung up on me because I forgot to send my L the court fee!).

Things went about as smoothly as I think they could have.  There were a couple of snippy comments from my stbx, but she held it together for the most part.  And now there are a few rooms in the house that are pretty empty with the furniture and the boxes gone.  The house overall doesn't feel empty, since I still kept quite a bit, but there's a definite difference.  I don't really know what to do with it.

Emotionally, I'm still numb.  All I do is keep running through my to-do list for getting the kids' rooms back in shape for their return to the house on Monday.  Plus some other chores, like actually cleaning bathrooms and doing yardwork.  I'm really starting to wonder when it's going to hit me.  If it will.  Sometimes I feel like the emotional part of me is broken beyond repair.

For now, I stay busy.  I borrowed a carpet cleaner and have cleaned about half the carpet in the house so far.  Just seemed fitting do to a deep clean of the whole house this weekend.  Fresh start.  D9 picked a new color for her room, so I'll be painting that this weekend as well, and her new bedroom furniture will arrive to replace some of what my stbx took to furnish her place.

It goes beyond the cleaning and the furniture, though.  When that's done, I am already working on my to-do list for selling off some things.  And projects for the yard.  These are not things I'm excited about... .it's just busywork, but at least I'll feel like I'm being productive.  I know my T said that making plans is one way I combat anxiety, so I guess there's anxiety on some level.  I'm just not feeling the symptoms like I had been leading up to the separation.  And not really feeling anything else either.

I have an appointment with my T on Tuesday.  I just think there has been too much going on in the two weeks between sessions... .an hour is just not enough time.

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 07:35:19 PM »

Almost there, Mama-wolf. It's good that you're cleaning and repainting your daughter's room, reclaiming the space as your own.

 

Emotionally, I'm still numb.  All I do is keep running through my to-do list for getting the kids' rooms back in shape for their return to the house on Monday.  Plus some other chores, like actually cleaning bathrooms and doing yardwork.  I'm really starting to wonder when it's going to hit me.  If it will.  Sometimes I feel like the emotional part of me is broken beyond repair.


Maybe the numbness is a sort of self protective mechanism. (You may have thought of this before, just putting it out there.) Maybe you'll feel and deal with the emotional fallout when you're ready to. So much to do right now, and things aren't final yet. Give it time. Were you able to go to the beach last weekend? I didn't keep up on that thread where you mentioned it.

I get what you're saying about not having enough time with the T. Hopefully soon things will slow down and you can start to process it all more fully. Another thought is that maybe you're just emotionally exhausted, with all the anxiety and unhappiness you were dealing with in leading up to the separation.

 I know for me, in the several months leading up to the time I separated from my fiance, I had intense anxiety, unhappiness, worrying, crying myself to sleep at night (we didn't sleep together). I could barely function at work. I mentioned previously that I started running to manage the anxiety, and it helped but I still had it, worrying about and trying to fix the relationship. Once I moved out, almost all of the anxiety just stopped. And what was left in its place was some sadness, but also just exhaustion. It was such a relief not to feel that way and not to worry anymore, that it was like my body finally relaxed. I still have sad days, but no more anxiety.

So, again, maybe once everything's final, you have the house in order, and feel that you've checked everything off your to-do list (hopefully you won't keep adding to it), then your emotions will feel it's okay to let go. And relax. And feel. And move on. Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2018, 12:02:51 PM »

Hi mw,

I agree with WindofChange, that it's good you're taking ownership of your space and making things nice for your kids.  That's energy well spent.  Maybe you could get creative with how you use the additional space in the rooms you mentioned and make some positive changes for your family in your home?  Study?
  Exercise room?  Play room?  Art studio?  I found making small changes in most every room allowed me to feel like my home was refreshed and just mine, instead of feeling the ghost of our memories everywhere I looked.  I know what you mean about it feeling empty.   

I also agree that you may find that as you're on a sort of 'autopilot' getting through this time, that things will begin to come to the surface in their own time, when you come to a natural closing point.  It happened properly for me a year after the end.  Right at the end I began to grieve and recognise the shock and trauma that I was feeling the impact of physically, yet had to push things down because of the family law case my son's father started and from that point I went pretty numb too.  Go easy on yourself and let things take their own natural course. 

Could you increase your therapy sessions maybe if you're feeling like they are not enough?  Something has happened with my therapist and my last appointment was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.  I think I can understand your worry about yours going off on maternity as I feel a bit cut adrift and need that regular appointment.  We've been working a CBT process on self esteem and it's gotten real.  Now to not know if I'll see her or when is anxiety provoking.  What do you think about having her hand over your case to someone else for whilst she's off?  Maybe if she can give another T a full run down of your case, share her notes and observations, then it would be easier for someone to pick up than if she were to go off and then you potentially have to start from scratch.  Worth considering. 

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2018, 08:19:41 PM »

Thank you, Winds... .

My T and I did cover at one point that emotional detachment is a coping mechanism that I tend to use, whether I'm conscious of it or not.  Maybe not the best coping mechanism, but it has its uses.  I guess the question I'm facing is how much of what I am feeling--or rather, not feeling--is me coping on some level with what I have been going through, and how much of it is actually damage that warrants closer attention?  Either way, there's work to be done with my T, but I get the sense that the nature of the work could be different depending on the answer.

Were you able to go to the beach last weekend? I didn't keep up on that thread where you mentioned it.

I means a lot that you even remembered and asked!  No, the potential day trip to the beach was actually slated for this coming Wednesday.  I still haven't decided on whether I'll go, in spite of HQ and braveSun's gentle encouragement.  I'll keep an eye on the weather and we'll see.  It will probably come up in session with my T on Tuesday, and she'll probably give me just enough encouragement to see it through... .

Another thought is that maybe you're just emotionally exhausted, with all the anxiety and unhappiness you were dealing with in leading up to the separation.

Very possible.  I was suffering from significant emotional burnout when I first started seeing my T, due to all the caregiving I was doing and other pressures from my uBPDw at the time.  I never really had time to recover from that since soon afterward I came to the realization that our marriage had to end and was having to start navigating that.  My experience leading up to the separation was very much like what you described for yourself, minus the crying to sleep at night.  But that's only because I really don't cry much at all.  It might help if I did more... .

I'm glad the anxiety went away for you when you moved out.  I am still feeling it, I think mostly due to having to interact with my stbx for co-parenting.  That pretty much keeps everything else at bay... .sadness, relief etc... .I haven't been able to relax yet.

So, again, maybe once everything's final, you have the house in order, and feel that you've checked everything off your to-do list (hopefully you won't keep adding to it), then your emotions will feel it's okay to let go. And relax. And feel. And move on. Smiling (click to insert in post)

Yes, that's the trick... .so far, there seems to be an endless supply of things to add to the to-do list!  Some of that I think I seek myself to avoid being able to relax and feel.  I kinda just want to skip to the moving on part, but I know that's not very realistic.

I found making small changes in most every room allowed me to feel like my home was refreshed and just mine, instead of feeling the ghost of our memories everywhere I looked.

Great ideas, HQ!  I don't really have the space to create a new kind of room (like an exercise room), but rearranging and refreshing the spaces is definitely on the agenda.  My first goal is to sell off a few things... .in part to get them out of the house, and also to get a little cash (even if it's just a few dollars).  Then to hang some new pictures and/or artwork... .

Right at the end I began to grieve and recognise the shock and trauma that I was feeling the impact of physically, yet had to push things down because of the family law case my son's father started and from that point I went pretty numb too.  Go easy on yourself and let things take their own natural course. 

"Autopilot" feels like a good way to put it.  Mostly I go through the day knowing there are things that just need to get done, for my kids' sake, for the sake of my job, etc.  So I do them, and move on to the next thing that needs to be done, and the next.  I do appreciate the reminder to not be so hard on myself.  It's kind of ingrained in me to do that and I'm finding it very, very hard to stop.

Could you increase your therapy sessions maybe if you're feeling like they are not enough? 

Yes, my T is open to me asking for and scheduling whatever I feel I need.  The problem is that I struggle with feeling needy just by going to therapy, so the idea of going even more frequently than I already do is not very appealing.  We have touched on this topic before, and I told her last session that I don't really know what to ask for.  I get the sense that she's helping to nudge me into scheduling based on what she thinks will be helpful.

Something has happened with my therapist and my last appointment was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.  I think I can understand your worry about yours going off on maternity as I feel a bit cut adrift and need that regular appointment.   We've been working a CBT process on self esteem and it's gotten real.  Now to not know if I'll see her or when is anxiety provoking. 

I'm very sorry to hear about your therapist needing to cancel your last appointment!  I can understand that the uncertainty around getting that next appointment set up is nerve-wracking at best, especially considering that this seems to be a crucial time for you.  Does she practice with anyone else that can pick up your case? 

As for me and my therapist, I do need to ask her about the plan for when she has the twins.  I don't think a gap of eight weeks (minimum) will be good for me, but I also need to know her thoughts from a clinical perspective.  The idea of opening up to someone else is really daunting for me.  There are plenty of things I haven't even scratched the surface on with my T, and am only just starting to consider that I might be OK doing so after eight months of seeing her.  It's not gonna happen within eight weeks with someone new.  Still... .being stuck in the places I have felt stuck in lately is not a good thought.  Especially considering that her maternity leave will likely last through the holidays, and I anticipate dealing with plenty of issues over that timeframe.

Today was a very long and busy day, but I did get a lot accomplished.  D9's room is a new color and her new furniture arrived.  I'll spend tomorrow finishing up working in the house and hopefully catching up with a couple friends.  This coming week will be the first time we finally settle into our true 2-2-5-5 schedule (there had been several adjustments over the past month due to vacation schedules), so it's going to be interesting to see how the kids manage... .

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »

Hi mama-wolf, glad to see your post.  Also relieved for you that your stbx’s move out went fairly smoothly. 

I stay busy to keep my anxiety at bay also.  Busyness  is good to an extent and I get what you are saying about being productive.

Do you have a quiet time to meditate, journal just be with yourself?  I find that I am more in touch with my emotions when I take a few minutes each day to get centered.  It may sound hokey, but it works for me.  You can start small maybe 10 minutes a day, if you aren’t already scheduling it.

I hope you get that beach trip!  I love the beach and live about 30 minutes from the Gulf of Mexico.  I go as often as I can manage it.

About therapy,  I don’t like to admit that I may need weekly visits either.  But, I have noticed, when I really need therapy, an hour is not
enough.  However, at times, when things are going well, in 45 minutes, I’m looking at the clock because I’m ready to go.  I think that you should avail yourself to therapy as you need it and you will reach a point, and you will know it, when you no longer need it.

Take care!

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 09:00:48 AM »

Thanks for dropping a note, Mustbe!

Do you have a quiet time to meditate, journal just be with yourself?  I find that I am more in touch with my emotions when I take a few minutes each day to get centered.  It may sound hokey, but it works for me.  You can start small maybe 10 minutes a day, if you aren’t already scheduling it.

I am pretty sure I have been flat-out avoiding this in favor of getting the work done to get things moved out and rearranged.  I have also been getting less exercise... .sometimes it takes me 30 minutes or more of lying in the bed, trying to convince myself to get moving for the day.  Now that we are starting to settle into a more regular schedule I hope to establish a new rhythm and incorporate more of this self care... .both physical and mental/emotional.

I hope you get that beach trip!  I love the beach and live about 30 minutes from the Gulf of Mexico.  I go as often as I can manage it.

Unfortunately, it looks like I'm going to have to cancel that plan for this week due to the weather.  It's going to be raining all week, with 100% forecast for Wednesday.  But I will try to get this back on the calendar for another day in the near future.

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 09:09:29 AM »

How are you doing mw?  I like your idea of selling things off.  That's something I start and stop periodically and you've motivated me to have another burst of that in the near future.  I find my environment affects me a lot so having things the way I like them makes a big difference in how calm I feel.  It's also nice to treat my home to something that refreshes the place and gives my surroundings a positive feel.

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I can understand that the uncertainty around getting that next appointment set up is nerve-wracking at best, especially considering that this seems to be a crucial time for you.  Does she practice with anyone else that can pick up your case?
 

Thanks for asking.  In fact I received a letter yesterday stating that she is off indefinitely so the service are offering me a new therapist if I choose to do so and I am going to.  Indefinite is just too long to wait!  I hope that you're planning to be kind to yourself also and have the sessions you will benefit from most.  If that's more initially then that's OK.  You have as much importance as anyone else in your life and never forget that.   Also your kids need you to take care of yourself so you can be the best version of yourself for them to look to as a role model.
I remind myself of that often when I do what seems like the last thing on my list of priorities - self care!  I want my son to value himself and the best way to teach that is to show them how it's done. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2018, 07:29:14 AM »

How are you doing mw?  I like your idea of selling things off.  That's something I start and stop periodically and you've motivated me to have another burst of that in the near future.

Doing OK, HQ--thank you for checking in!  I saw some responses from you in my other threads, and I'll follow up there as well.

For selling things off, I'm making gradual progress in identifying what to get rid of and sorting through what can be sold vs what should just be donated or tossed in the trash.  Keeping up the motivation to actually determine price, post the items online, and follow through on responses/inquiries starts to feel a little daunting, but I will take it a little at a time and hope to keep it going until it's done.  In the end, whatever I don't manage to sell can always be donated or outright thrown in the trash if needed--missing out on the few extra bucks I might have gotten will probably be worth it to just get it out of there.  The point as you mentioned is making our space work for us and making it more conducive to our continued healing.

Thanks for asking.  In fact I received a letter yesterday stating that she is off indefinitely so the service are offering me a new therapist if I choose to do so and I am going to.  Indefinite is just too long to wait! 

I'm so very sorry to hear your T is out indefinitely!  This would be pretty devastating to me for it to happen so abruptly... .I hope you're doing OK!  I'm glad you are going to start with another T and hope you quickly find a good fit.  I'm thankful that my T and I are able to address her pending leave proactively, and I'm trying to make the most of the sessions I have each time.

And I do keep trying to remind myself that I matter too, that it's important to take care of myself in order to take care of my kids.  It's helpful to have that thought reinforced here since my inner critic can have a tendency to drown out that other, kinder inner voice.  I agree that it's especially important for them to see me taking care of myself... .so I think that means they're going to the gym with me this afternoon so that I can get in a workout.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2018, 01:02:23 PM »

What a brilliant plan! I can't take S4 or I think we'd be there all day every day. Bliss. The gym is my church. It's like a sanctuary for me however there's a strictly over 17 age which is a shame but is also understandable with the type of gym it is. Have a great workout!

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