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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: February 26, 2019, 10:03:49 AM »

My bph said something that really shook me to the core.  He is getting help, he is growing as a person, he is getting better, he is happier.  He doesn't want to be miserable anymore.  He isn't going to let my issues get in his way of being happy.  It's been 6 years and I shouldn't be "trying" anymore, I should just do it.  He feels I thrive on drama, when there is nothing to "fix" or any problems, I am miserable.  Thinks maybe we should go back to fighting because I seemed to be happier when we were.  That I am not invested in this relationship and I am going to ruin it.

I spent 6 years, taking care of him and his "issues".  Putting him first, putting him above my own health and well being.  Giving him passes for all the times he struggled.  Making mental excuses that he was dealing with trauma.  That only within the past few months, things have started to get better.  It feels like I am not working on his timeline and it makes him angry.  I had a panic attack and surgery within two a week and a half ago.  He feels I should be better now.  Everything is going better, but I am weighted by a sadness I am having trouble explaining.   Now he wants to say he won't let my issues or depression get in his way when he is getting over his.

Can't believe it.  I feel like inside I am chronically sad, but outside, nobody knows.
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2019, 10:48:38 AM »

He seems to believe that his personal growth should eliminate any reason for you not to be the "ideal partner" for him. Certainly by not adding more conflict to the relationship, he's doing better and you can see and appreciate that. However he's only looking at his feelings in the present, not understanding how his behavior has affected you in the past.

What he doesn't focus upon is that you've been through a lot of trauma in the relationship and in addition, you've had a frightening experience with surgery and cancer. And having a panic attack can be terrifying.

As you know, dealing with cancer exposes our vulnerabilities and reminds us of our mortality. Thankfully you got treatment, but surgery is also very debilitating, both physically and emotionally. So it's no wonder that you're feeling depressed as you recover. I think that would be a common response to what you've been through.

What you don't have is a partner who understands just how intense that experience was and how concerning it was for you prior to the surgery, leading up to your panic attack.

I sense that you're someone who is reluctant to show her vulnerability and has always wanted to be tough and strong. How do you think he'd respond if you told him that you need him to have your back right now and that you've been through a really difficult time?

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2019, 11:58:04 AM »

He seems to believe that his personal growth should eliminate any reason for you not to be the "ideal partner" for him. Certainly by not adding more conflict to the relationship, he's doing better and you can see and appreciate that. However he's only looking at his feelings in the present, not understanding how his behavior has affected you in the past.
I feel that is right.  He's getting better and things are going better, so that in turns means I should be better.  The issues I find myself in is that when he asks me regularly how I am doing, I say I'm okay or I'm tired.  I say that a lot.  Then when he snaps and gets upset about stuff, I feel that I have to say something at that point.  That it turns means he gets even more upset that I don't want to talk about things until he's already upset and then I say "see, I don't tell you because you act this way" etc.  I admit, I shouldn't do that.  I know that isn't a good way to bring topics up that are of difficult nature.

What he doesn't focus upon is that you've been through a lot of trauma in the relationship and in addition, you've had a frightening experience with surgery and cancer. And having a panic attack can be terrifying.

As you know, dealing with cancer exposes our vulnerabilities and reminds us of our mortality. Thankfully you got treatment, but surgery is also very debilitating, both physically and emotionally. So it's no wonder that you're feeling depressed as you recover. I think that would be a common response to what you've been through.
It feels unreal that he expects me to be back up and like myself because the cancer has been taken out and the surgery is over, we have money coming in from taxes, the boat is finally here, we are getting ready to save money.  I get it.  We are doing better.  I feel like the more I say it to myself, I will get better.

As you know, dealing with cancer exposes our vulnerabilities and reminds us of our mortality. Thankfully you got treatment, but surgery is also very debilitating, both physically and emotionally. So it's no wonder that you're feeling depressed as you recover. I think that would be a common response to what you've been through.

What you don't have is a partner who understands just how intense that experience was and how concerning it was for you prior to the surgery, leading up to your panic attack.

I sense that you're someone who is reluctant to show her vulnerability and has always wanted to be tough and strong. How do you think he'd respond if you told him that you need him to have your back right now and that you've been through a really difficult time?
I always prided myself in being resilient.  Being able to handle anything thrown my way.  I know he is there and would help me if I asked.  I just struggle with asking and I told my counselor that.  He believes the panic attack was because of my surgery.  I told him it wasn't just because of the surgery.  I told him that it wasn't just because of the surgery. 

How do you tell someone like him that you are having your own difficulties.  He got angry that the spark is gone, like I have no life left in me, like I am a walking zombie.  He "kind of" saw the spark the other night when we went out and I had a few beers.  I messaged him and said I want to be like I was before, but I feel weighed down by worry.  The things I worry about aren't burdens, but I feel like I could be doing more, that I could be trying harder.  I feel he wants me to be like how I use to when we met.  It's exhausting sometimes though.

I think I need to stop worrying so much about what's going to happen if I voice my difficulties or ask for help.  It's obvious I can no longer hide it, because now it is affecting me in ways I am not able to control.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 03:18:05 PM »

The issues I find myself in is that when he asks me regularly how I am doing, I say I'm okay or I'm tired.  I say that a lot. 


You have a history of not fully disclosing what you think and feel because of how he would react in the past. For this reason, he has doubted your truthfulness. There's good reason for both of you to feel this way. Perhaps now is the time to be more fully open and disclose your health challenges. He needs to know that just because you had surgery a couple of weeks ago, you are not back to normal yet and you need his help.

He believes the panic attack was because of my surgery.  I told him it wasn't just because of the surgery. 

Perhaps it's best to get him engaged in helping you with the kids or around the house first. Yes, it would be important at some point to be able to be totally honest and say something like "I've been really traumatized by your behavior over the last couple of years." I think this would be hard for a "non" to accept, much less a pwBPD. So I'd not have that conversation yet if I were you. This is something to explore with your counselor and also should you want to bring it up, we can talk about it here first.

But even more important, you need him to actually help you while you recover. And he needs to know that your recovery might take a while--and he needs to step up and do some of the things that you've been doing on a regular basis.

You need to improve your relationship before you can have those big conversations. And if you see him actually helping with kids and household chores, that will improve your confidence and trust in him. Just like your recovery, it's going to take a while to rehabilitate the love and trust between you.

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