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« on: June 20, 2021, 12:48:38 PM »

Hi All,
It's been quite some time since I've posted. I don't know if anyone feels the same but after dealing with my mother, I am usually too physically and mentally exhausted to relive the events by posting about them. I am still in therapy and still getting better at my reactions and taking better care of myself by saying, "NO" more often. There are so many things I can write about how much my mother's distorted priorities and lying has affected my life negatively but I will just share today's events. Today I drove home 4 hours from visiting my in-laws. As soon as mom mother became aware that I got home, she calls and says that she has to go to Urgent Care because she believes she has a UTI. She tells me how she will take a cab and I can get her after. She knows that this is all bull**** coming out of her mouth because I will get her to not feel like a terrible daughter or look that way to the outside world. I pick her up and yell at her. Let me explain my mother. Cigarettes and shopping are her priorities and she doesn't do important things (such as go to the doctors) if it interferes with either of these. My mother has made friends, for now, in her new apt and they drive and take her and others all over. My mother has already manipulated them into feeling bad for her and doing what she wants. So, I know 100% that she went gallivanting all over the whole weekend while now feeling well and said to herself, "I'll just go when my daughter gets home because I can manipulate her into taking me." I am not a bad person. I, of course, don't get mad because my mother doesn't feel well and has to go to the doctor. It's the priorities and lying which inconveniences me and so could care less. I drop her off and go home to drop my luggage off. As I get home, she is already calling saying that it is a two hour wait and can I take her elsewhere. I say, "No, you have to wait." Two minutes later, she texts me to say they said now they are booked and can't take her. I start to drive to her and thought, "let me call to see if I'm right and she is lying as usual." I explain to the girl and she says, "yes, we are taking people, as long as they are willing to wait." I call my mother back and, like I would a child, demand her walk back in and wait. As I drive to get her and hour later, she tells me it's not a UTI and they said if the pain is bad go to the ER. I give her no choice and drive to the ER because I want all my dealings with her to be NOW and today because after this I will force myself not to see her until my 4th of July family gathering. I am here writing as I wait to get her. This is my life. I think I will have a relaxing day and she ( or some other family member)  just always uproots it. I don't know if I've ever mentioned this but her sister and niece (my aunt & 1st cousin) also have this illness and constantly lean on me for everything too. So, my reason for writing is that I know my therapist will say I did good and didn't let her get away with manipulating me further. That's great and I am proud of myself but I still can't fix the angry feeling inside me. I don't know how NOT to be angry still. I know the best thing would probably be to not have her in my life but I know that I will never be strong enough to break ties completely so I will not drive myself crazy entertaining the idea. Any suggestions on how any of you have dealt with that internal anger?
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2021, 05:29:38 PM »

Your mother only knows how to fulfill one persons needs - her own.  Accepting that she is incapable of considering you or anyone else, is the beginning of finding your way out of this IMHO.  As long as you want her to do better as a mother (or be a better person), she will frustrate you like this.  For me, when I radically accepted that my mom wasn't capable of the things I wanted from her (as my mother), I was able to better accept that she "is who she is", and it became easier to set boundaries (for myself).

I would not be surprised if your mother picked that time to tell you she needed a doctor because you had just been at the in-laws, and she was needing attention. If this is the case, you obliged her this need in a few ways: Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)

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As soon as mom mother became aware that I got home, she calls and says that she has to go to Urgent Care because she believes she has a UTI. She tells me how she will take a cab and I can get her after.
So when something like this happens, "check in with yourself #1".  How you you feeling about this demand?  Are you triggered?  Are you feeling strong enough to manage your emotions around her?  Is this a real emergency?  Assess the situation in these ways first.  Don't just "react". If the answer is yes and you are feeling ok, you can humour her and go help.  If the answer is no, "Mom, I'm not feeling well either, so I can't come right now.  If you need to go to urgent care now, try calling a friend to drive you, or else call for a taxi.  I hope you feel better soon.  I have to go now. Bye."  This is a boundary.  Do you see how this boundary is for yourself...and not your mom?

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I will get her to not feel like a terrible daughter or look that way to the outside world. I pick her up and yell at her.
So she has trained you to have these guilty feelings and obligations, to have her own needs met.  Going to get her, to not feel like a terrible daughter is the wrong reason to go get her.  This is why it's important to check in with how you are feeling, before you even respond to her demand.  Metaphorically, when she says "jump", you say "how high mom"?  Why will she ever stop demanding things of you, when you keep doing what she wants?  Since you always give her what she wants (even if you are angry), her demands are working for her.  This is called positive reinforcement.  If you yell at her, it doesn't matter, because I'm guessing she was raised being yelled at, so that is normal for her.  Nothing in her behavior will change, until you change how you respond to her demands. It sounds like she is controlling you, and you are letting her, probably because you love her, and genuinely want to help her.  But with BPD, we need to learn the skills to manage these behaviors.  Yelling at her when you picked her up is a big clue (after the fact), that you weren't feeling well enough to perform this demand at that moment.

"What are your symptoms mom?"  If she stutters, suggest she wait 24 hours to see if it clears up on it's own.  If she responds with all the right symptoms for a UTI, then with gentle caring, suggest she call a taxi.

Or, if you have call display, and don't feel up to her charades, don't answer your phone or texts.  If it's an emergency, she can call an ambulance right?

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As I get home, she is already calling saying that it is a two hour wait and can I take her elsewhere. I say, "No, you have to wait." Two minutes later, she texts me to say they said now they are booked and can't take her. I start to drive to her and thought, "let me call to see if I'm right and she is lying as usual." I explain to the girl and she says, "yes, we are taking people, as long as they are willing to wait." I call my mother back and, like I would a child, demand her walk back in and wait.
So you handled most of this really well, especially where you "drew a boundary" and told her she could manage the 2 hour wait (after her first call).  Maybe remind her gently that everybody has to wait, and you have the confidence she can wait her turn like everybody else.  She won't have thought of that.  Checking the facts with the urgent care center was a good idea.  But understand that BPD's who are escalating, are wanting a reaction.  It feeds their emotional needs.  Again, this is why it is so important to "check in with how you are feeling" to assess whether or not you are in a healthy enough state of mind to deal with her drama.  Instead of treating her like a child when you called her back and "demand that she walk back in and wait", it is critical to keep a calm voice, and gently tell her that you have called and checked with the clinic, and they said that they are seeing people, but she just has to wait her turn.  You are not available at the moment, but she is in good hands, and can call you after she has seen the doctor."  See what is happening here.  You are better managing her behaviors.  She gets to learn from her consequences.  Next time, she can call ahead to the clinic first to see what the wait time is.  That is not your job.

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I am here writing as I wait to get her. This is my life. I think I will have a relaxing day and she ( or some other family member)  just always uproots it. I don't know if I've ever mentioned this but her sister and niece (my aunt & 1st cousin) also have this illness and constantly lean on me for everything too.
They do this because you keep jumping every time they have a demand.  What will you do to change this pattern?

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I am proud of myself but I still can't fix the angry feeling inside me.
Work on learning the "tools" this website offers, instead of reacting to her demands.  When you have more tools to navigate her behaviors, you will get your life back, and slowly, the anger will be less.  It takes work and effort to learn these tools, but it is really worth it to get our lives back.

Tools: radical acceptance, SET, boundaries, asking validating questions, don't JADE, mindfulness and distress tolerance (check out "how to get the most out of this site).  These things really do work.  I can vouch for them.  I used to be one of those people that said "how high" when my mom said "jump".  I don't do that anymore.  Surprisingly, she has found many other people to do the things for her that I don't do (H and I still do PLENTY).  But the more you do, the more she will demand.  The more she demands, the more frustrated and hopeless you will feel.  She will pick up on this and eventually all her bad feelings will be your fault and she will rage at you.  The only healthy answer to all this chaos and distress, is to learn the relationship tools on this board, because they really do work, when they are used as they are meant to be used.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

It can get better.  Virtual hug (click to insert in post)






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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 07:06:24 AM »

My BPD mother constantly lies as well - to get what she wants. I recall the first time I realized how extensively she does it, and it was a shock- to her own family- but she seems fine with it. Sometimes she lies just for her own entertainment, which makes me wonder if she also has sociopathic tendencies.

She sees me as someone to use. Really, that's about it. I haven't seen her in a long time due to Covid but was planning a visit now that she's vaccinated. The first thing she says is " when you are here you will do X, Y, Z " Really. Not "oh it will be good to see you" but the tasks she wants me to do for her.

She does not care if I am inconvenienced or even for my own well being. I tried to help out when my father was ill. I had kids at home. To help out, I had to arrange child care and drive a distance. She would call me to "come immediately for an emergency" and when I got there, Dad would be stable with the home health nurse there. She'd yell all hours of the night, even though I didn't want to get on the road and drive tired. She did not care. I was just there to do things for her.

It's a dilemma because if you have any boundaries with her, you are the awful horrible person who refuses to help your mother. None of us want to be seen that way. However, I felt that no matter what I did, it would not ever be enough. I could attend to her 24/7, leave my own family, neglect my own self care- and it would not satisfy her. I chose to have boundaries. She was not pleased, but I felt the choice was between me and them, and my kids needed me.

You just have to decide on your limit with this.

The lying makes a close relationship impossible. She knows she does it, has no remorse, and keeps doing it. I can't change this.
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