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« on: September 05, 2021, 08:54:05 AM »

Hi everyone,
Honestly, I'm not even sure where to start my first post...
 What got me here is Beverly Engel's book Emotionally abusive relationship and Stop walking on eggshells which mentioned this forum. I've ready many other books on psychology since my meltdown 2 years ago and I'm going to therapy for a year and half. During this time I figured out that my girlfriend is almost certainly BPD, one of my many mistakes was that I directly confronted her with my suspicion, she took a test online which turned out positive but she dismissed it with the assurance that she will be able to work it out on her own and there is no need to go to therapy. Her point of view was that I was the one in our relationship who needed help because after my meltdown I was in a really bad place and I wasn't able to do anything, I just went to work and then layed down, depressed without any will to do anything. We are together since starting university, at the moment it's over 7 years. When we met we instantly clicked, the whole time our plan was to finish the school, find a proper job and start a family but as I mentioned 2 years ago I had really bad break down and I'm still recovering from it. I know that living with mr is not the easiest but I try really hard to fix myself, I'm past my lowest point and I'm really starting to make a progress. The issue is that I'm no longer sure if I want to have kids, this has been the thing which we always argue over. Her stance is that if I'm not sure our relationship is pointless and I should leave.. I can't count how many times she "broke up" with me saying that I should leave, the reality is that when I started to pack my thing she broke down and didn't allow me to leave her. There are so many more things happening that I'm not able to mention and I'm afraid that the post is already hard to comprehend but during last two weeks her step dad died and she started a new job and she is at her lowest point and I'm really trying to help but my every effort is futile.. can anyone share any insight?
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2021, 11:27:09 AM »

These relationships are difficult, and often made worse when children are involved. If you truly don’t want to have kids, make sure that you are  responsible for your part of birth control, as there are many stories here where BPD partners have sabotaged BC in order to ensure a pregnancy.

It can be truly exhausting to be in a relationship with a BPD partner. To successfully navigate it, you must be the emotional leader.  
https://bpdfamily.com/content/what-does-it-take-be-relationship

Many of us who find ourselves involved with a BPD partner have grown up in a family with a member who has a personality disorder. We’ve grown accustomed to behaviors that would send an emotionally healthy person running. Could that be you?

It’s time to forgive yourself for your “breakdown” and know that the stresses you feel in this relationship undoubtedly contributed to it.  Virtual hug (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2021, 08:53:45 PM »

Welcome PthWelcome new member (click to insert in post)

So glad you have reached out to share with us and to look for some guidance. Cat Familiar shared some great information. Please know that it's quite normal to feel depressed and overcome by the challenges of living with someone who shows traits of BPD.

It's also really important to take care of yourself while you learn skills to help you better the relationship. Your emotional needs bucket can use some filling up in healthy ways from some of your friends or just through self care. Do you have some thoughts as to how you can do that?

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2021, 05:17:31 PM »

These relationships are difficult are difficult, and often made worse when children are involved. If you truly don’t want to have kids, make sure that you are  responsible for your part of birth control, as there are many stories here where BPD partners have sabotaged BC in order to ensure a pregnancy.

The thing is that I´m not sure how to talk about it with her anymore, it´s really triggering topic. I still haven´t decided for myself but what is sure that I don´t want to start a family with her if she doesn´t find a profesional help - but if I tell her this honestly she would deny that she needs any help and if that´s my point of view that there is no way it could work out between us. And all I want is that she gets better and is able to ask for help...

Many of us who find ourselves involved with a BPD partner have grown up in a family with a member who has a personality disorder. We’ve grown accustomed to behaviors that would send an emotionally healthy person running. Could that be you?
I´m an only child with very controling mother. My parents have hard time comunicating with each other. One of possible ways I´m able to describe the situation is some kind of double bind - everything seemed OK but in fact it wasn´t, my father wasn´t able to deal it with so he just let it go. I´m not sure how it was in the past but there was at least one occasion when he wanted to leave the relationship but he didn´t do it at the end. My meltdown 2 years ago was partly caused by him actually leaving my mother for someone else - as a birthday gift we took him on vacation, just me, my girlfriend and him (my mother didn´t go because it was a long flight), during the vacation I accidentaly discover that he was texting/calling with someone else and that he is in fact having an affair. The vacation got really bad because I was really angry but I didn´t confront him and instead became passive aggresive which fueled his drinking problem (in his opinion when somone drinks a few beers every day it´s perfectly normal). When we got back I confronted him, he admitted it, left but they are back together - I asked them to go to therapy together or as individuals but they dismissed it as they can deal with it by themselves (which didn´t happen during my entire life - but now it´s seems that it can suddenly happen without any outside help..). In my opinion it´s worth mentioning that there are almost no obstacles to go to therapy in my country - it´s covered by health insurance the only downside is that you have to make several calls to get a free spot somewhere. I know it´s hard to admit that you need outside help but I was there and I did it and it´s worth it and they can see I got better... The double bind scenario left me in the state that I always wonder what is wrong when everything seems OK...

Your emotional needs bucket can use some filling up in healthy ways from some of your friends or just through self care. Do you have some thoughts as to how you can do that?
I can now admit that it seems like an important thing that I really need to consider. One of my coping strategies was to totally deny existence of myself, I went great lengths to accomplish that and I was quite succesful. I misinterpreted one of physics theories about qantum mechanics - to be concrete it was "Everret´s Many worlds interpretation" - basically it allowed me to disown any decision I made because I belived that it doen´t matter how I decide because both thing will happen and I will consciously be living in one of the realities. I was able to see through it after all and started taking responsibility for my own decisions, however the definition of "myself" is still not really stable. In the first phase I denied myself, then I read many books about consciousness and how it arises within our brain and now I know that my denial in the first place wasn´t a good step but I also know that everything isn´t what it looks like at a first sight. Now I´m in phase that I see the importance on selfcare and that I wasn´t really paying attention to it in the past.
Regarding the matter of friends - our relationship got really intensive really fast and we were together 24 hours/7 days a week for at least 4 consecutive years - we were in the same class in the university and then we even got employed by the same company (our workdesks were like 6 metres apart) - I was really satisfied by this as I was troubled by the world around me and I was able to displace all my concerns for external world in our relationship bubble - that resulted in slowly losing contact with my friends to the point we barely speak anymore... Also there is this small not really important thing that she cheated on my with my bestfriend 3 years ago so I cannot talk to him anymore even I tried to...


I wanted to thank you all for reading through my post and for sending your very kind responses - it means a lot. After spending some time here and reading through strories of other people I also felt that I need to try to share it somehow outside of my therapy...
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2021, 05:43:55 PM »

In order to improve, a person with BPD needs to commit to therapy, and unfortunately most are reluctant to do that. Therapy involves taking an honest look at oneself and that can be very painful for someone with BPD. BPD is a shame based disorder and causes a lot of self loathing. It’s very hard for those afflicted to self motivate since further examining oneself can be very painful.

https://bpdfamily.com/content/how-to-get-borderline-into-therapy
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2021, 11:46:52 PM »

Hey there friend. I'm not expert so while I'm reluctant to give any advice, I can say for sure that someone cheating on another with their best friend is almost certainly the opposite of "small" and "not really important."

Let's say that all the doctors in the world agreed that she didn't have bpd, yet she cheated on you with your bf, would it make it any better or worse? I'm incredibly sorry that you experienced that feeling of betrayal. Do you feel you deserve a partner who would never fathom doing such a thing? I most certainly think you deserve a partner AND a best friend who would never go down that road.
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