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« on: March 09, 2023, 09:46:31 PM »


So, where do I even start? Near 5-year relationship - extremely intense relationship as I'm sure a lot of you have had. So many impulsive and untrustworthy behaviours at the beginning that had so many red flags (stealing, lies, sudden changes of plans) but she could also be the most caring and adoring person you could imagine. I believed the caring and adoring person was the "real her" and that the impulsive, cruel, explosive side was something that we and I "could fix" and I was so wrong. We went through Graves disease (fixed), ADHD (medicated), and then CPTSD and CPTSD is where it gets weird. She ended up recovering memories of a childhood sexual assault (where the perpetrator changed three times from different people in her young life) during an MDMA trip I guided (MDMA was a last resort because nothing else worked)...

I loved her so much and still love her, we travelled the world together and the highs were so incredible together. I really felt like there was nothing we couldn't tackle together, but then there were always the explosions and they kept coming more and more towards the near end of our relationship. 6 hour, 10 hour, 12 hour fights until 6am that didn't make any sense. Being in the car with her and her creating a fight because "it feels safer to be fighting than to be silent". She would manufacture fights and I could never understand why, I tried Gottman therapy, both of us in individual therapy, I tried EVERYTHING on earth to make this better and just couldn't. I started having anxiety attacks and thought it was work stress, sleeping pills I was taking, etc, everything but her. We realized we had become co-dependent and moved out to try to do more individual therapy and then do couples therapy. Then our couples therapy session was so full of gaslighting I had a 9 hour panic attack afterwards. I reached out to one of the top psychologists in my city for a second opinion. She tells me "I shouldn't tell you this but what you are almost certainly dealing with is BPD and you need to get your affairs in order to leave this because it is not going to get better".

The psychologist explained everything to me, the need for my partner to have me match her emotions (no matter how unhealthy) to "feel heard & seen", the devaluation cycle (my partner had BLOWN up prior workplace relationships and all of her past childhood relationships beyond repair), the explosive rage.

The final straw for me came when I got back from a trip. I was living out of an Airbnb looking for an apartment while she was living with her parents, and the Airbnb I was about to check into wasn't livable - I asked for her help and she wouldn't come to help me at all even though God knows I had given almost all the help I humanly could to her...

My friends in the city helped me, I basically told her I was going to handle everything related to getting my own place. A single day later? The texts start... "How can I help? I really want to help!", "love you & miss you!". Two days later? Voice notes "I just feel like you don't understand how much I care about you and how I want you to know I'll be there for you, if you told me where you were right now I'd come visit you."

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I can't unsee this behavior now, I know she's BPD and has been toxic to my health. Yet I still find it so hard to end it. There is a part of me that is PLEASE READing researching specialized couples therapy with BPD partners to try to make this work. I loved her so much and I feel like right now that I am detoxifying from a drug like heroin - crying spells, anxiety, feelings of dread and general sickness / body pains... I have never had a breakup like this and I haven't even broken up with her yet...

For me I need to get my place of living stable (this weekend) and some family out here and then I will have the final conversation with her. But I know now that "final conversation" will not be final for her, she has kind of stalked me in the past and part of me is honestly afraid of her (hard to say as a man) and her stalking me or making something up publicly...

For those that have been through this please help me with the following:

1) What would you do in my situation for the breakup? I know I have to end this relationship even though a ton of me still wants to keep trying especially because she is acting so sweet now. I think I wait until I get set up in my new apartment

2) Tell me about these withdrawal symptoms and how to cope with them. They are awful. How long do they last? What do I do to allay them? I am like willing to check into a detox facility if I need to.

3) The meaning of the relationship. No normal person would be as cruel to a partner that was as good to them as I was in this relationship. It feels like none of this means the same thing to her as it did to me and our "love" for her means something very different than what it does to me. Like she "loves" the hell out of me right now because I'm basically ignoring her... That isn't love to me... How did you create the story and meaning of your former relationship with the pwBPD? It feels to me like I had a relationship with an alien who just didn't feel the same things as I did? I know she loved me but her biology is just so different from mine. This is the most confusing part to me.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2023, 11:26:48 PM »

Hey friend, I'm so sorry you're going through this.  Much of your story resonated with me and I feel your pain.  It does get better with time though and the secret is focusing on yourself for a bit and working on your own mental health.  It sounds like you're already off to a great start.

1) What would you do in my situation for the breakup? I know I have to end this relationship even though a ton of me still wants to keep trying especially because she is acting so sweet now. I think I wait until I get set up in my new apartment.

I know this is in the "detaching" thread so most of people's answers will focus on you moving on, creating space to heal, etc.  Yet your question here is an outlier- why do you know you have to end this relationship?  I get why you're torn, I'm in the exact same situation.  I also get why you'd be scared of her.  It sounds like you still have mixed feelings though and you need to work through that on your own.  Nobody here can help you make that final decision.

With that said, you probably know that she's acting sweet because BPD goes through cycles (see the categories at the top of this page for more guidance).  Right now, she's back in the love bombing stage to fight for your affection.  That might last a day, a week, a month, a year...who knows?  All I can tell you is that now is the ideal time to start putting up healthy boundaries while moving into your own place.  That somewhat breaks the push/pull relationship.

2) Tell me about these withdrawal symptoms and how to cope with them. They are awful. How long do they last? What do I do to allay them? I am like willing to check into a detox facility if I need to.

I'm not going to try to sugarcoat this- you're going through genuine trauma right now and your world probably seems upside down.  I've been there...everyone here has.  It really really stinks, but you're going through a grieving process and it's going to take some time.  It is different for everyone, and there's no set timetable for healing.  It starts with you though and focusing on your own needs, your own passions in life.

My advice, think about your life pre-relationship and remember what you used to love doing.  Then do a lot of that.  Find yourself again, pick up new hobbies, spend time with friends/family, and stay in counseling...talk this stuff out!  I'm no expert, but it feels like the turning point for a lot of people here is when they realize that this isn't their fault.  We could swap places in the relationship, and it would still reach this exact moment sooner or later because of BPD.

So hear my words- this is NOT YOUR FAULT!  It really isn't.  She's mentally unstable and she's not trying to hurt you, but her entire world runs off of emotions in the moment.  It's not exactly her fault either though because until she wants help and takes counseling seriously, these patterns and cycles will continue.

3) The meaning of the relationship. No normal person would be as cruel to a partner that was as good to them as I was in this relationship. It feels like none of this means the same thing to her as it did to me and our "love" for her means something very different than what it does to me. Like she "loves" the hell out of me right now because I'm basically ignoring her... That isn't love to me... How did you create the story and meaning of your former relationship with the pwBPD? It feels to me like I had a relationship with an alien who just didn't feel the same things as I did? I know she loved me but her biology is just so different from mine. This is the most confusing part to me.

I covered this in my last answer- my ex was a loving, caring, compassionate woman with a severe mental illness that dysregulates her moods.  Sure, I hated her for awhile but eventually I accepted that she's suffering more than I am and this rollercoaster of emotions may never end for her.  I honestly feel sorry for her, just like I feel sorry for your wife.  They can work past this with therapy and time.

To answer more directly, she does love you.  She probably hates you too, but not as much as she hates herself at times when the world just doesn't make any sense.  That's just my viewpoint though and others will give you very different answers.

Good luck, my friend...I'm so sorry you're in this situation.  Keep your head up, focus on you, and you will get through this one way or the other.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2023, 11:08:46 AM »

I really needed this today. Thank you so much for this. Basically not having a place to live right now is super exacerbating all of this and I know that once that gets settled things will be much easier. She was supposed to be my lifeline in this situation and now I just cannot trust that she will be here for me... Its ok though because I know that this period will end shortly and that I will be able to move forward as I get my own place.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2023, 04:34:15 PM »

Can you confirm what ended up happening with you and your ex? Did you end up splitting up or are you still working on things together?
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2023, 08:49:17 PM »

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2) Tell me about these withdrawal symptoms and how to cope with them. They are awful. How long do they last? What do I do to allay them? I am like willing to check into a detox facility if I need to.

I’m thinking you probably wouldn’t be able to get into a detox facility, but what would likely be very helpful for you is this 5 day workshop for people recovering from exploitive relationships, that is under the umbrella of the well known addiction recovery facility called The Meadows:

https://rioretreatcenter.com/workshops/emotional-trauma/the-betrayal-bond/

I would also encourage you to begin attending SLAA 12 step meetings, either online or in person: https://slaafws.org/onlinemeetings/

You might also find this video helpful: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlH00ziJok

I wish you all the best during this exceedingly trying time in your life.
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