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« on: July 26, 2023, 12:32:59 PM »

My 30 year old daughter is the product of a BPD mother who was verbally abusive during my daughters upbringing.
When the mother left the family back in 2008, this youngest daughter coped by moving from one relationship to another, all the time refusing counseling to deal with the pain of her mother's behavior.
She married back in 2021 and last year she separated from her husband and began trauma counseling. Her initial explanation to me was that she needed to sort out her life and had to be separate to work things out.  
From September 2022 to December she lived alone in a one bedroom apartment while her husband continued to live in the family home.  
She started another relationship with a guy who was suffering with a number of mental health issues.  Her explanation was that her counselor told her to explore other people to see if her relationship with her husband was what she should stay with, or if she should move on (her explanation).
The relationship with the new guy continued to get closer and then the fellow suffered a mental health crisis and she helped him work through it.  
In June, her husband started to speak of selling the house and suggested a permanent separation so he could go on with his life.  
The house went on the market and sold just after Father's Day and my daughter had a complete meltdown.  Feelings of abandonment, of rejection and all the trauma of her childhood flooded in and she ended up twice in hospital in an attempt to get help.  This pushed her current boyfriend over his edge and he broke up with her because he couldn't deal with her while he was having his own stuff to work on.
As of today, she is seeing a trauma counselor and a psychiatrist.  She owns her own business but has taken a leave of absence.  She tells me she cries most all day, can't sleep and that her psychiatrist diagnosed her with adjustment disorder.
She lives in another city, refuses my offers to help or even allow me to visit.  My communications are mostly via text, phone calls only come when she is in crisis.
Her latest was that she attempted to get back together with the boyfriend.  She was supposed to drive him to the airport for a business trip but he texted her to make other plans sending down the spiral even more.
She texted me yesterday that her psychiatrist recommended to her that she needed to get more sleep and prescribed sleeping pills.  Today she said that sleeping was the only advise her psychiatrist has given her.  She gets up to care of the her cat's needs then takes more pills to go back to sleep.

I understand to validate her feelings but How can I reach out to her to discuss getting a plan together to get back to work and for her to go her house to pack up her belonging before the closing date end of August.

I reached out today (072723) and she replied
"I'm sorry I can't call.  I'm having a hard time staying alive right now. I'm just hanging on."

any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2023, 02:53:37 PM »

Hi misunderstood;

Like so many other stories here, your D30's story is kind of a mixed bag. There's some positive stuff going on, in its own way -- trying to get help via hospitalizations (so, some kind of recognition that she wasn't doing okay), able to run a business in the past, does accept getting therapy, and not cutting off contact with you.

My first thought I want to "get on paper" here is one that stands out to me in a lot of posts here -- that is, a lot of times, pwBPD tell us "this is what the therapist said", or "this is what my counselor told me". I'd suggest to anyone who hears that to take whatever follows with a grain of salt. We weren't in the room and we have no idea what got said, and as pwBPD struggle with shame, they may "adjust" what was said when they tell others, to make it less shameful and less like they're the problem.

So, when I read this:

From September 2022 to December she lived alone in a one bedroom apartment while her husband continued to live in the family home. 
She started another relationship with a guy who was suffering with a number of mental health issues.  Her explanation was that her counselor told her to explore other people to see if her relationship with her husband was what she should stay with, or if she should move on (her explanation).

and this:

She tells me she cries most all day, can't sleep and that her psychiatrist diagnosed her with adjustment disorder. ...
She texted me yesterday that her psychiatrist recommended to her that she needed to get more sleep and prescribed sleeping pills.  Today she said that sleeping was the only advise her psychiatrist has given her.

I'm wondering if you and I are on the same page that she can say that the counselor/psych said whatever, but that might not really be what was said? Especially that first statement about "I recommend that you cheat on your H and date other people, to see who you like better" (essentially) -- yeah, I'd suspect that the C may have said something like "You may need to make some decisions about if you are committed to this relationship or if you are going to choose to move on" -- and that got... filtered, to justify her shameful actions to you.

Anyway -- food for thought there.

More to the point about your core question:

I understand to validate her feelings but How can I reach out to her to discuss getting a plan together to get back to work and for her to go her house to pack up her belonging before the closing date end of August.

I reached out today (072723) and she replied
"I'm sorry I can't call.  I'm having a hard time staying alive right now. I'm just hanging on."

any suggestions?

On this board (child with BPD), one of the hardest things for many parents to do is to walk alongside their children as their children make seemingly awful decisions. I'm with you -- it seems like it'd be so much better for her to try to get back to work, and, whatever happens with the house, for her to at least get her stuff out on time. Yet she's an adult, and some pwBPD need to hit "rock bottom" to get the wakeup call they need to make major changes for the better.

One approach that might balance your care for her with the recognition that she's free to make her own poor choices, could be communicating to her that whenever she's ready to bring up going back to work, you'll be there to hear her and to support her in going back to work. And, whenever she wants to reach out to you for help in getting her stuff from the house, she can just let you know, and you'd be happy to be there for her. That could be a way to "plant a bug in her ear" about those ideas, while respecting her decisionmaking. You're putting the ball back in her court -- it's no longer your job to remind her to do adult things, but you can let her know that if/when she decides to move forward, you'll absolutely be there to help.

It sounds really painful and uncomfortable for you to watch your D go down this path. How's your support system -- family, friends, therapist? This is so much to carry on your own.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2023, 01:04:31 PM »

Thank you for your very insightful reply.
I have my wife as my strongest supporter and my oldest daughter is a great help as well.
I was able to send a message to my youngest expressing that I was available to help with her back to work plan and her plan for packing up the house. 
It took her about 5 days for her response but much to my surprise she called me yesterday.  She was calm and clear and we were able to talk candidly about what she was going through and on the two main topics.
She is emotionally fragile though but continues to go therapy and was prescribed new anti depression drugs by her psychiatrist.
She is supposed to come to our home in two weeks for a weekend visit so I will be able to talk face to face.

Thanks again
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