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Author Topic: 4 months no contact and still ruminating  (Read 661 times)
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« on: August 27, 2023, 11:38:11 AM »

Hello folks,

I've been reading here quite a lot before registering.  As the title says I've been out of the relationship with my exBF (which lasted almost a year) but even after 4 months it still feels like treading waters. It does not help that common friends" keep me updated about his whereabouts. Like most of you I still somehow miss that person that I fell in love with and still have problems to accept that I fell in love with a fabricated fantasy since it felt so real back then.

Although I have been reading a lot and watched a ton of videos regarding the disorder there ist still this little voice in the back of my brain whispering: "And IF you were wrong? And IF he really loved you? And IF you'd just missed that one tiny bit to make the relationship work?"

Intellectually I know that nothing I could have done had prevented the separation, but I still miss him (or what I believed was him) a lot. How did you kill that dream? That obvious fantasy? 
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2023, 06:14:44 PM »

Hello folks,

I've been reading here quite a lot before registering.  As the title says I've been out of the relationship with my exBF (which lasted almost a year) but even after 4 months it still feels like treading waters. It does not help that common friends" keep me updated about his whereabouts. Like most of you I still somehow miss that person that I fell in love with and still have problems to accept that I fell in love with a fabricated fantasy since it felt so real back then.

Although I have been reading a lot and watched a ton of videos regarding the disorder there ist still this little voice in the back of my brain whispering: "And IF you were wrong? And IF he really loved you? And IF you'd just missed that one tiny bit to make the relationship work?"

Intellectually I know that nothing I could have done had prevented the separation, but I still miss him (or what I believed was him) a lot. How did you kill that dream? That obvious fantasy?  


The ruminating is really hard. It's something that nearly all of us on here experienced, and it seems to be unique to these types of relationships. I've read that it's the cognitive dissonance, the brain struggling to make sense of things that are incompatible, like...

he said he loves me/he yells at me and calls me names
he said I'm perfect for him/he tells me everything is my fault
I tried really hard to be there for him/he tells me I don't show up for him
I'm really smart/he tells me I'm stupid
I'm kind and caring to him/he tells me I'm cruel and punishing

From what I've read and videos I've seen, these things create the cognitive dissonance because we thought we 'knew' one thing, and yet the other seems to be 'true' for the other person.

For me, the rumination seems to come from two parts of me- the wounded, scared child-like part that wants and needs love, and feels he's been rejected for being bad. This part blames myself and is really, really hurt. This part wants to believe she didn't do these things on purpose, since she said she loved me.

The other part is my smart, rational self that knows the things she did are completely unacceptable and are, in fact, abusive- yelling, name calling, put downs, lying, mocking, mimicking, pointing fingers in my face in anger, explosions, ghosting.

The wounded part, for some reason, wants to take precedence. Wants to blame me. Wants to believe that she didn't mean the things she said and did. Believes her and her assessments of me, even though literally nobody else on the planet shares those assessments. It wants her back, and feels like when the other side of me rationally analyzes the things she did and said it is hurting her, and I don't want to hurt her, ever.

It starts to get all mixed up in the head, creating the rumination. I liken it to the spinning wheel of death on a computer...everything is so overloaded that processing can't happen.

These are developmental wounds that are activated by these relationships.

Just wanted to share, I know others will have some good thoughts. But it is a common thing, so you are not alone.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2023, 05:02:54 AM »

It does not help that common friends" keep me updated about his whereabouts.

no, it doesnt.

when i was going through it myself, it didnt take much to trigger my ruminations, and certainly being updated about my ex would do it.

have you asked them to stop? part of detaching is actively taking steps to get the person out of your head on a day to day basis. its hard to do that when people are keeping us posted.

Like most of you I still somehow miss that person that I fell in love with and still have problems to accept that I fell in love with a fabricated fantasy since it felt so real back then.

i think if you make the determination that you "fell in love with a fabricated fantasy", it has a certain implication for your recovery that might increase your suffering.

now, i dont know more about your relationship than you present, or how long the two of you were together, but i would suggest that it was all very real. it just wasnt sustainable.

everyone, at the beginning of a relationship, puts their best foot forward, and, to an extent, we try to be the ideal version of ourselves to our new mate. people with bpd traits do this, just to a more extreme, and pathological extent. they over compensate for extreme fears about themselves, and about relationships.

on top of that, at the beginning of a new relationship, we all tend to idealize our partners, and see them with rose colored glasses. in other words, we project our own ideal image on a new partner. our ex partners do this as well.

so, to an extent, we all "fall in love with a fantasy". the vast majority of relationships do not survive that adjustment.

what you fell in love with, i would suggest, is complicated. there was a fantasy element, to be sure. and your partner may have turned out to be a more complicated person than you realized. but you were both there. you may have had different perceptions, but you both experienced the relationship together. it was all very real - it just wasnt sustainable.

Although I have been reading a lot and watched a ton of videos regarding the disorder there ist still this little voice in the back of my brain whispering: "And IF you were wrong? And IF he really loved you? And IF you'd just missed that one tiny bit to make the relationship work?"

Intellectually I know that nothing I could have done had prevented the separation, but I still miss him (or what I believed was him) a lot. How did you kill that dream? That obvious fantasy? 

what if all those things are true? would it change the outcome?

you might be wrong. he might have really loved you. and there may have been something you could have done to improve the relationship.

but the relationship ended, regardless, for a reason, or reasons. something about it was broken, or incompatible.

for example, there were many, many things i could have done to improve my relationship. i learned them long after it ended. they would have helped. but they wouldnt have saved my relationship, because we werent meant to be. my partner was a very jealous person, and i could never really adjust to that very well. the accusations and snooping and the never ending interrogations, just take too high a toll on me, and i find them too unattractive. i could have coped better, far better, but its not something im built to live with. there were also things about me that my partner tried, but couldnt live with.

it ultimately helped me to see those things i could have done. it helps to clarify why and how my relationship broke down, from my perspective, and from hers. it helps to clarify why we werent built to last. and it helps me to learn the lessons i want to take into future relationships.

that is ultimately how you kill the dream. you realize to what extent the relationship was your own fabricated fantasy, and why ultimately, it wasnt sustainable. then you mourn it, grieve it completely, let it go, and learn the lessons you want to take into your next relationship.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2023, 05:42:09 PM »

I'm a year out from separation and at times, I still catch myself looking backwards.  I don't want her back anymore because I've accepted that she can never love me for me, like a wife is supposed to love a husband.  That's the only version of her that I'd want back and she can't be that person anymore. 

I accept it because I know it's the truth and I must live my own life, find my own happiness.  And I have.  Life is better today without the BPD chaos creeping into every single conversation or plan.

But that doesn't mean that from time to time, I don't think about some of the little things- the midnight dates to get a milkshake after the kids are asleep, binge streaming our favorite shows together, etc.  And I've realized that it's okay to remember that stuff fondly, it's who we were and we had some great memories together.  I can accept that and also accept that I'm in a new chapter of my life.

So what's the secret to moving on?  Actually move on.  Hang out with friends and do something incredible this weekend.  Revisit an old hobby or passion and see if you still enjoy it.  Catch up with friends and relatives that you haven't talked to in years.  Stuff like that- actually make your life about you instead of about your broken past.  Taking back your freedom and being the authentic you is the only way to truly heal and move on.

I hope that helps!
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