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mugsydublin

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« on: July 02, 2024, 05:13:49 PM »

Even since a posted a couple of days ago, I started second-guessing myself. When things go well they go so well. And I so easily walk into the thought that things aren't so bad or that I can manage things.

I really don't want to go through a divorce again. And I really don't want her to go into old age on her own with limited resources.

I am also so tired of being subject to interrogation, especially since I have gotten to well over the past decade.

My grown daughter was diagnosed with breast cancer and is going through chemo. She lives in another state and I have been doing my best to offer emotional support, put her in touch with specialists, and sending her things in the mail.

My mother (BPD) has been diagnosed with dementia. Hasn't bathed in three years and refuses medical treatment. She was recently hospitalized after a fall. Siblings and I are trying to rally around our father, who is her only caretaker.

There have been layoffs at work. I am anticipating more and am trying to set up a back-up plan. I actually have a decent fallback, which would not pay as well as I am paid now, but it is a comfort to know that it is there.

I have been getting my finances in better shape in case I need to. I've paid down an incredible amount of debt (legacy from a past relationship). I recently rolled over the last remaining consumer debt into a lower interest rate and lower payment. I'm doing everything I can to take care of myself, which also takes care of her.

But it has been a time of some stress.

Meanwhile, my wife has gone into these incomprehensible interrogations about small things that I don't understand. She claims to have told me things that I have no recollection of her talking about. Example, the fact that I had my shoes on a shelf. She says that she told me that she does not want to see shoes when she is brushing her teeth and that she has told me over and over again and that the fact that I did not move them shows that I don't have her back. I honestly do not recall her saying it once until the moment that she blew up about it.

This is driving me crazy. As mentioned before, I nurtured her through cancer--spending many nights with her in the hospital. Paying the bills. But the fact that I did not move my shoes shows that I don't love her.

An earlier version of myself would not see just how crazy this is.

Now this morning she opened my mail. An invoice from American Express for a personal loan for $20K. This is the loan that I rolled over into a lower interest rate.

The truth is that I have never fully talked about my finances with her. I have a trust issue. So I have been evasive. Just taking care of business. My debt has come down to the point that I am close to paying it all off within the next year (except student loan). I have a good credit score. I come up with the money any time that we need something for the house. I put a substantial amount of money into retirement every month. I work extra jobs (a sore point for her).

She does not file taxes. She does not save money for retirement or anything else. She has carried a debt of her own for years.

But you can guess what the reaction is opening my mail. And she honestly has a point. I do not share my financial reality with her because I prefer not to give her that ammunition. In a healthy relationship, it would be wrong of me to be making financial decisions without sharing them with my partner.

Not sure how this is going end. It was ugly. I am a liar. I am secretive. What has been going on with me the last few months.

Aside from the fact that my daughter has breast cancer, my mother was in the hospital, and there are layoffs at my work, aside from all that, she has been splitting for the past several months and I am simply trying to keep my eye on the ball and get done each day what needs to be done.

I really do not want another divorce, but I also realize that I fool myself by thinking that I have this managed somehow.

There is nothing you can say for yourself when you are in the interrogation chair.

I really want to do more than vent. But I also appreciate that there are people who understand. Because no one else could possibly understand this.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2024, 05:28:20 PM »

Sorry that that was so long.

For most of my life, I have not respected myself and internalized that venom from my mother. Loathed myself. That is not the case now. It is helping me cope with this better than I have in the past. But I would prefer to focus on the things that I want in life than playing games that I cannot win. And a lot of my "plan" at this point is simply act a role for the benefit of my wife to placate her so that I can get what I want out of life.

She truly has no clue about how miserable she makes me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2024, 12:00:22 PM »


Meanwhile, my wife has gone into these incomprehensible interrogations about small things that I don't understand. She claims to have told me things that I have no recollection of her talking about. Example, the fact that I had my shoes on a shelf. She says that she told me that she does not want to see shoes when she is brushing her teeth and that she has told me over and over again and that the fact that I did not move them shows that I don't have her back. I honestly do not recall her saying it once until the moment that she blew up about it.

This is driving me crazy. As mentioned before, I nurtured her through cancer--spending many nights with her in the hospital. Paying the bills. But the fact that I did not move my shoes shows that I don't love her.

An earlier version of myself would not see just how crazy this is.



I know you are feeling a great deal of stress, I hope you are able to get some relief today.

Just commenting on this, oh my gosh. It sounds so very familiar, and of course adds to your stress. Trying to capture what's happening here:

interrogations: sharp, rapid questions that come from a place of power-over, often with no 'right' answer since they intended to corner us; demanding and presumptuous. Our partners need to be in the power-over position and believe they have the right to diminish us with the interrogations. Experienced this a lot myself, and wondered why and how she came to think this was ok. I never would have approached her in this way, because I don't want her to feel cornerned, or bad in any way, and this type of questioning makes a person feel bad.

about things you don't understand, don't remember her mentioning before. gaslighting, which creates a great deal of confusion. And if you say you don't remember this, then it is your memory that is the problem.

told you over and over again: taking it to extremes, gaslighting. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. But over and over again is similar to "you always __________!" which is a form of abusive relating. Leaves no room for understanding.

shoes on a shelf when she brushes her teeth: highly specific and hard to predict, which creates a walking on eggshells feeling.

...and finally

means you don't have her back/don't show up for her: this was the real purpose of all of this, and also the real source. She believes you don't have her back, needs to believe this, and needs you to feel bad for not having her back. Nothing else matters in the moment, not that you took care of her for a long time in really challenging situations, not that you paid a ton of money for her health care. None of this matters in the moment, the feeling is a fact- you don't have her back.

No amount of explaining or defending ourselves in these situations will work. You probably already know this.

Been there with all of this, it's so shockingly similar to what I've experienced, with the details changed. My last communication with my ex she told me 'she needed someone who shows up for her". I did every single thing she ever asked me to do, went to every single event she wanted me to come to, would drop everything for her when she needed to talk or have me help her with something. She, on the other hand, came to precisely zero events I asked her to, trips I invited her on, parties I wanted to have, brewpubs I wanted to visit, social events at my business, record stores and bike rides and .....nothing, not once. No, every time. Often with mocking me or the event or my friends or my business.

Just sharing to give you some validation and support.

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