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« on: January 10, 2022, 04:34:01 AM »

Ok apologies, I'm new here and this is long!

I have been with my partner for 21 years and we have 3 kids. It's been turbulent from the get go. I was young and messed up when we got together- insecure, lost and drinking too much (figured out in the last 5 years that I was battling with undiagnosed adhd/autism). He was the opposite to me - confident, always spoke his mind, driven. He'd had some tough times - lost his dad very traumatically, had a very volatile ex and a weird controlling mother who seems to have simultaneously indulged him and been ver emotionally absent.

We had so many ups and downs but I really blamed it all on me and my drinking (never daily but weekend binges when I felt overwhelmed). When I got pregnant with my eldest and stopped drinking he was so angry. Angry that I stopped for the baby but not for him - angry that he was going to have to make some sacrifices and lose his studio room to make a nursery. He said he was gonna pick me up on every mistake. He wasn't wrong.

But in time things changed a bit. We started to grow. There were many times of real support and love and care. BUT the dramas still came. And every single time I'd end up feeling like I was losing my mind. Hours of him talking at me - lots of valid reasonable points but always peppered with stuff that was so not true, loads of absolutes - you always, I never, silences when he would sit and glare at me unflinching. I would agree to anything, apologise for everything just to make it stop. And then POW! Like magic it would be over, and he'd be teasing me and joking and wanting sex. For a long time I minimised it, ignored it, internalised it, just got on with trying to raise our kids.

I cannot even explain how many hours of my life I've dedicated to trying to figure out WHY. Maybe it's his messed up controlling mum, maybe it's his chronic insomnia, maybe it's ptsd from his dads death, bipolar? Depressed? And yes maybe it's me!

Things started to shift over the last 6 years. I started trying to fix myself. Went to aa got sober - eventually figured out that I had adhd - I wasn't an alcoholic but had been self medicating. Got my diagnosis and medication. Thought this would really help as he frequently criticised me for being disorganised and forgetful. But it kind of became a stick to beat me with. I know you're brain works differently but it just means you have to try harder etc etc. I started therapy, worked on my physical fitness, all the while reading loads about mental health etc.

I began to feel trapped and lonely and questioning what on earth I was doing. Around this Time (2 years ago) I had an emotional affair. I'm not proud of it, it was a PLEASE READty thing to do. Someone I knew from a long time ago popped up on Facebook and messaged me and before I knew it things were really flirty and intense. It lasted a total of 10 days and threw me into  total turmoil. I ended it as I felt so guilty but I made me realise what a mess my relationship was and how close I'd was to walking away. Aaaand then he found out about it. And did not react how I thought he would! He said he wasn't angry and totally forgave me (this clearly wasn't true) but was utterly heartbroken- he cried all the time (he never ever cried before) he begged me to stay, said he'd do anything to make me happy and fix things. But was also going through my phone and emails and Facebook every day and making me have endless hours long conversations demanding I tell him everything that had happened again and again. He wanted sex and to be near me all the time. But I felt so guilty that I just figured this was all totally understandable. But this loving overly nice bubble burst. It's been so tough since then.

I finally cracked (again) about 3 months ago after a week long bout of the silent treatment and said I couldnt go on. I said everything I've ever felt in a great big email. Even then being careful to highlight the good stuff too. I told him how exhausted I was, how I felt like I was constantly pretending to the outside world we had a normal life, how I was so tired of walking on eggshells, being criticised, blamed, watching him shout at the kids.

He promised to change, to go to counselling (I have - he hasn't) although we have started relationship counselling- it's not working. If anything it's worse. Same sh*t new packaging - now even more crazy making. Now being told - I know you can't handle criticism and I'm not criticising you just explaining how I feel - only to go on to list a ton of things I have said/done wrong and how I should have said them. Always that magic combo - if you'd just said/done this then I wouldn't be feeling/reacting like this!

I cracked at my own therapy session before Xmas as my therapist carefully told me that she saw definite signs of emotional abuse and controlling and manipulative behaviour.

I tried to explain what I saw (without mentioning abuse etc) in our relationship counselling. That I felt like he had a ball of emotions inside home and that when triggered the response was disproportionate and that whatever I said or did was never enough. That I wasn't able to reply or defend myself at all or it just escalated further. His only reaction to this after the session was to be super angry that I hadn't praised him enough!

He's currently "trying hard" to be different but I can see that it's totally driven by fear and desperation. Lots of comments about doing it all "for me".

And then I stumbled across bpd. Nothing else quite fitted but that's it - 100% lightbulb moment.

No idea where to go from here
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 08:10:29 AM »

Hi, you're not alone at all.

I'm having the same experience in many ways. It feels so weird when someone else has experienced almost the same specific situations, like this:
Hours of him talking at me - lots of valid reasonable points but always peppered with stuff that was so not true, loads of absolutes - you always, I never, silences when he would sit and glare at me unflinching. I would agree to anything, apologise for everything just to make it stop. And then POW! Like magic it would be over, and he'd be teasing me and joking and wanting sex. For a long time I minimised it, ignored it, internalised it, just got on with trying to raise our kids.

Just before christmas while I was working from home, my wife wanted me to confess once and for all that I've been abusive to her. I thought to myself I will not say it because it's not true and I won't be able to take it back. It ended with me trying to work while she sat beside me, staring, and like you said, unflinching. I had enough and did what she asked me and told her "sorry I've been abusive" and also like you say, like magic it was over.

Same yesterday, I tried to say no to sex. When I finally agreed she was so happy and grateful and today she's being sweet on whatsapp.

I think they too are exhausted from arguing sometimes and the relief from the situation being over. Read somewhere about emotional blackmail that there are three steps:
1. Request/accusation or whatever
2. Resistance from the victim
3. Victim giving in to the demands
Someone correct this if I'm wrong but it really resonated with me and made me feel not crazy.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 08:35:31 AM »

Thanks for replying. Whilst I wouldn't wish this on anyone it's comforting to know that others might actually understand what I'm going through.

I feel a bit daft to not have realised that so many of the things he does can be described as emotional manipulation.

I read this article recently and can tick almost every one, sadly

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/emotional-manipulation#outlook
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 08:39:15 AM »


Same yesterday, I tried to say no to sex. When I finally agreed she was so happy and grateful and today she's being sweet on whatsapp.


Yes! Exactly the same here! He keeps saying I need to get in touch with my sexuality and that I don't even know what I like! FFS! I like being treated with kindness and respect- funnily enough being criticised, gaslighted, lectured, and being made to feel like nothing is ever enough isn't much of a turn on
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2022, 08:59:55 AM »

Yes! Exactly the same here! He keeps saying I need to get in touch with my sexuality and that I don't even know what I like! FFS! I like being treated with kindness and respect- funnily enough being criticised, gaslighted, lectured, and being made to feel like nothing is ever enough isn't much of a turn on

I too have to get in touch with my sexuality, I used to take it seriously but now I'm more amazed at how strange it is. I look at her and wonder what it's like in her head. I still love her but the resentment is strong.


But I'm a bit curious to see what would happen if I wouldn't give in. I motivate myself by thinking this would be an alternative to breaking up. I get to experience and get used to the emotional reactions without having to break up. Maybe I build courage and emotional strength. The motivating factor - either I get strong enough to leave, or strong enough to stay.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2022, 09:02:38 AM »

Hi Dancingbear and welcome Welcome new member (click to insert in post) It sounds like you're working on yourself and relationship, that's great news. Many others here have experienced similar stories, so it could help reading their posts too. The Tools menu at the top of the page may also help.

My favorite books to learn about BPD and how to take care of yourself in a relationship with a pwBPD are Stop Walking on Eggshells and Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist. Making changes may rock the boat but in the long term should lead to healthier relationship behaviors.

Have you thought about any boundaries / limits to protect yourself from verbal abuse? Does your therapist have experience with BP or other personality disorders?
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2022, 02:33:19 PM »

My favorite books to learn about BPD and how to take care of yourself in a relationship with a pwBPD are Stop Walking on Eggshells and Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist. Making changes may rock the boat but in the long term should lead to healthier relationship behaviors.

Have you thought about any boundaries / limits to protect yourself from verbal abuse? Does your therapist have experience with BP or other personality disorders?

Thank you! Started reading eggshells and will check out the other one too. Already realising how much I have enabled his behaviour and made it worse. Boundaries is a new thing for me to learn but I know it's essential! So much to take in.

Trying to think about how I can help when he's raging at one of our kids? Any good resources around that?

My therapist is the one who suggested he may have a pd in the first place. Our relationship counsellor is not so great though and think I may have to stop that unfortunately

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2022, 03:51:17 PM »

Welcome dancing I’m glad you found out about bpd and the forum. I recommend those books too, also there is one about raising resilient children with a borderline or narcissist which I highly recommend. Our children are only little but today I decided to post about this too. I’ve also had the problem with the sex, my wife literally turned me into a lesbian by luring me away from a fifteen year relationship with my ex boyfriend. Yet she still accuses me of not being interested and not trying hard enough to please her. We have little time for sex when we have two babies who sleep in the bed with her. I’m sure you will find lots of support here. The members are so kind and helpful and they know so much. All the best to you.
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