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« on: January 02, 2014, 08:18:28 PM »

I just read that minor separation can trigger episodes. Apparently, thats why mine does this. He is always away from me working, as he has to go out of town for a month or so every two years. Thats when it happens. He does go out of town to work on any given day but not for a month. A week, he is fine.

Is there any way to "un-trigger" these episodes?  Or do they just have to play out? 

He reacts with rage and threats to leave me. Which Im right in the middle of now.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2014, 09:27:12 PM »

What happens? Paranoia? Anger? Accusations and acting out? My first thought would be to find some way of reassuring your SO that you are there for him, missing him, not seeing someone else, etc. BPDs have a hard time with object constancy. If you have kids you'll get this. A baby thinks that when an object goes out of its sightline, it no longer exists. Thats why it is a fun game of revelation to say, put a blanket over a ball and then reveal the ball. Or play peek aboo. Or why they may tweak out if mom or dad leaves the room. It may be helpful to think of your husband as a big child in that way - when he is far away from you, you don't exist. Your love for him and everything he knows is untrustworthy. They can't self soothe they way normal people can. If i am lonely or frightened, i can think about all the people who love me, even if they are far away, and it makes me feel better. PwBPD can't do that.

I read that providing them with an object, picture, or something with your scent on it can help. In your case, what levels of reassurance can you provide that might make him feel better? It may be too late now, but perhaps some preemptive work can happen next time.

When my uBPDh went on an amazing mountaineering expedition far from home last year, he called me about ten times a day! You are on a mountain, in a once of a lifetime situation with a support crew and great new friends! Who the hell is thinking to call home that much? He needed constant reassurance. Because he lacks a sense of self, he doesn't really feel he exists without me. Because he was far away he was unsure of my love, and also paranoid i'd leave him or cheat while he was gone. You cant change this about them, but have to accept and lessen the impact for everyone by giving them lots of support. Hang in there.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2014, 10:46:53 PM »

Seneca, he rages, acts out, and projects things onto me. I just recently figured out that their triggers are hard to find. I can do something small, such as not walking him to the door when he is leaving, and after a few of those, I do think he starts feeling rejected.

His evil self came out on nowhere. His nice mood came out of nowhere. I dont know what mood it will be this weekend.  During these episodes I noticed he is very, very stressed. work related stress and I think he takes on more work than he can handle.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2014, 11:30:40 PM »

Yes, he needs a some small object to carry with him, a "touchstone".

Maybe something like a pocket watch with a little photo of you in the lid.

Do you guys skype on video?

I used to listen to my boyfriends voice on a message he had left on my cell phone calling me his sweetheart and saying how much he loved me. I kept renewing it for about a year.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 02:55:52 PM »

Hi kellykaye,

Seneca, he rages, acts out, and projects things onto me. I just recently figured out that their triggers are hard to find. I can do something small, such as not walking him to the door when he is leaving, and after a few of those, I do think he starts feeling rejected.

His evil self came out on nowhere. His nice mood came out of nowhere. I dont know what mood it will be this weekend.  During these episodes I noticed he is very, very stressed. work related stress and I think he takes on more work than he can handle.

yeah, it sometimes comes out of nowhere.

We can not avoid triggering. Trying to do so is walking on eggshells. Intensely focusing on triggers give us sometimes a success like you describe but sometimes fails miserably like you describe. You put high stakes on this game - well you are on your way to gambling addiction then as this is intermittent re-enforcement.

We can however avoid some triggering. Avoiding invalidation is key here as it breaks the invalidation begets invalidation vicious circle. Invalidation is a major trigger.

Avoiding invalidation now could be just another name for walking on eggshells as it has the "avoiding" bit. Playing the game as "not doing something wrong" is a loosing proposition as we certainly will sometimes misstep. Even worse we may have an inkling where wrong is but are not clear as we don't know where right is. And last but not least NOT thinking of a white elephant is conjuring what in our mind - yeah, a white big mammal.

The way to avoid invalidation is to focus on the opposite namely validation. That builds our understanding of how things truly are - even if they may be quite bad. It builds a deposit on which the relationship can draw when missteps happen on either side (it takes 5 validation deposits to cover an invalidation withdrawal in a healthy relationship). This avoids not just triggering but it builds understanding that allows both sides to steer away from future triggering. It also takes away the foundation of the victim stance of the pwBPD. And when done persistently the pwBPD may pick up some self validation capability along the way too.

As triggers are often caused by invalidation it can be helpful to analyze what may be behind them as managing the emotion behind the triggering may well be more effective in the short and long run than to trying to manage situations. Often when managing the situation we may fix the situation but a upset pwBPD conjures a new situation out of thin air faster than Harry Potter ever could.

I just read that minor separation can trigger episodes. Apparently, thats why mine does this. He is always away from me working, as he has to go out of town for a month or so every two years. Thats when it happens. He does go out of town to work on any given day but not for a month. A week, he is fine.

Is there any way to "un-trigger" these episodes?  Or do they just have to play out? 

He reacts with rage and threats to leave me. Which Im right in the middle of now.

Ok, we have separation anxiety here. To validate that you need to tell him

  - concerned about him away

  - different

  - big change

  - worried about you

  - not seeing each other

  - anything bad could happen and one has to deal with it alone. Scary indeed.

etc.

Invalidating and likely triggering would be:

  - not a big deal

  - I love you forever

  - don't have to worry

  - I'll manage

Validating negative emotions takes a bit of practice but once learned it can make a big difference. Proper validation is also a useful life skill helping us to connect to others so it is worth learning and practicing outside the romantic relationship as well.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 09:12:58 PM »

Thank you AnOught!
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