Diagnosis + Treatment
The Big Picture
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? [ Video ]
Five Dimensions of Human Personality
Think It's BPD but How Can I Know?
DSM Criteria for Personality Disorders
Treatment of BPD [ Video ]
Getting a Loved One Into Therapy
Top 50 Questions Members Ask
Home page
Forum
List of discussion groups
Making a first post
Find last post
Discussion group guidelines
Tips
Romantic relationship in or near breakup
Child (adult or adolescent) with BPD
Sibling or Parent with BPD
Boyfriend/Girlfriend with BPD
Partner or Spouse with BPD
Surviving a Failed Romantic Relationship
Tools
Wisemind
Ending conflict (3 minute lesson)
Listen with Empathy
Don't Be Invalidating
Setting boundaries
On-line CBT
Book reviews
Member workshops
About
Mission and Purpose
Website Policies
Membership Eligibility
Please Donate
July 07, 2025, 04:56:46 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
5 Hours
1 Day
1 Week
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins:
Kells76
,
Once Removed
,
Turkish
Senior Ambassadors:
SinisterComplex
Help!
Boards
Please Donate
Login to Post
New?--Click here to register
Experts share their discoveries
[video]
99
Could it be BPD
BPDFamily.com Production
Listening to shame
Brené Brown, PhD
What is BPD?
Blasé Aguirre, MD
What BPD recovery looks like
Documentary
BPDFamily.com
>
Relationship Partner with BPD (Straight and LGBT+)
>
Romantic Relationship | Detaching and Learning after a Failed Relationship
> Topic:
Is it harder when there's no cheating?
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Is it harder when there's no cheating? (Read 494 times)
santa
Offline
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 725
Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
on:
December 11, 2013, 04:50:51 PM »
I feel like this would be easier to deal with if there were someone else I could point a finger at. My relationship was pretty toxic, but there was never any cheating on either side. Even when she left and took our kid, she just went to her dad's house. I know nothing is going on there. It's frustrating. She literally just didn't want anymore of our relationship. I think there's actually become some triangulation where it's her and her dad vs. me and my mom. It's really bizarre.
She said the reason why we fought so much is that we were obsessed with each other. Maybe there's some truth to that. It's like if you spend all of your time with someone for years, you just find stuff to pick at each other about. I think the BPD makes her crave chaos, so I think she's doing all this just to drive me crazy. It literally makes no sense whatsoever.
Logged
Turkish
BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Other
Relationship status: "Divorced"/abandoned by SO in Feb 2014; Mother with BPD, PTSD, Depression and Anxiety: RIP in 2021.
Posts: 12183
Dad to my wolf pack
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #1 on:
December 11, 2013, 04:57:07 PM »
Quote from: santa on December 11, 2013, 04:50:51 PM
I feel like this would be easier to deal with if there were someone else I could point a finger at. My relationship was pretty toxic, but there was never any cheating on either side. Even when she left and took our kid, she just went to her dad's house. I know nothing is going on there. It's frustrating. She literally just didn't want anymore of our relationship. I think there's actually become some triangulation where it's her and her dad vs. me and my mom. It's really bizarre.
She said the reason why we fought so much is that we were obsessed with each other. Maybe there's some truth to that. It's like if you spend all of your time with someone for years, you just find stuff to pick at each other about. I think the BPD makes her crave chaos, so I think she's doing all this just to drive me crazy. It literally makes no sense whatsoever.
I don't know, santa, it seems to be either/or. it certainly seems hard for you to try and be an adult when your BPD is playing the game like a child.
Betrayal is a hard thing. There's a reason the 9th circle of hell is reserved for traitors (very un-Christian of me to say... .I'm having a bad day, I think I'm going home from work early now... .P^|
Logged
“For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” ― Rudyard Kipling
santa
Offline
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 725
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #2 on:
December 11, 2013, 04:59:08 PM »
Quote from: Turkish on December 11, 2013, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: santa on December 11, 2013, 04:50:51 PM
I feel like this would be easier to deal with if there were someone else I could point a finger at. My relationship was pretty toxic, but there was never any cheating on either side. Even when she left and took our kid, she just went to her dad's house. I know nothing is going on there. It's frustrating. She literally just didn't want anymore of our relationship. I think there's actually become some triangulation where it's her and her dad vs. me and my mom. It's really bizarre.
She said the reason why we fought so much is that we were obsessed with each other. Maybe there's some truth to that. It's like if you spend all of your time with someone for years, you just find stuff to pick at each other about. I think the BPD makes her crave chaos, so I think she's doing all this just to drive me crazy. It literally makes no sense whatsoever.
I don't know, santa, it seems to be either/or. it certainly seems hard for you to try and be an adult when your BPD is playing the game like a child.
Betrayal is a hard thing. There's a reason the 9th circle of hell is reserved for traitors (very un-Christian of me to say... .I'm having a bad day, I think I'm going home from work early now... .P^|
If there were some criteria to get into Hell, this last little stunt she's pulled would probably be enough to satisfy it.
Logged
BorderlineMagnet
Offline
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 158
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #3 on:
December 11, 2013, 04:59:49 PM »
From experience I'd say its hard as hell when there's cheating. Especially when your replacement is so much lesser than yourself, you wonder what the hell your ex was thinking. The idealization that you were so amazing and great, only to find out she's with another guy behind your back is extremely painful. Only after learning more about BPD did the pain lessen a little, and I was able to understand that no matter how good I was to her (which may have been her trigger in the first place) that the same result would have happened. Also seeing her say the same things about him she did about me showed me that I was just another number, and so is he. My first BPDexgf I had no proof of cheating, but her drug abuse and crazy behavior almost made it easier to get away from her. Time to get off th ride. But with my second BPDexgf everything was so perfect and great that the cheating cut me like a knife.
Logged
santa
Offline
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 725
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #4 on:
December 11, 2013, 05:05:35 PM »
Quote from: BorderlineMagnet on December 11, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
From experience I'd say its hard as hell when there's cheating. Especially when your replacement is so much lesser than yourself, you wonder what the hell your ex was thinking. The idealization that you were so amazing and great, only to find out she's with another guy behind your back is extremely painful. Only after learning more about BPD did the pain lessen a little, and I was able to understand that no matter how good I was to her (which may have been her trigger in the first place) that the same result would have happened. Also seeing her say the same things about him she did about me showed me that I was just another number, and so is he. My first BPDexgf I had no proof of cheating, but her drug abuse and crazy behavior almost made it easier to get away from her. Time to get off th ride. But with my second BPDexgf everything was so perfect and great that the cheating cut me like a knife.
I'm sure mine will find some dude eventually and I'll have plenty of problems with him. I'll probably use the phrase "One man's trash is another man's treasure" at some point. Either way, it will be very hard. I'll be really upset about it, even though this guy will have met her long after we'd been over and in no way had any effect on the way things turned out. I'll still hate him though. She's playing that same card though talking about how devastated she'll be when I am with someone else.
Logged
Turkish
BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Other
Relationship status: "Divorced"/abandoned by SO in Feb 2014; Mother with BPD, PTSD, Depression and Anxiety: RIP in 2021.
Posts: 12183
Dad to my wolf pack
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #5 on:
December 11, 2013, 05:07:24 PM »
Quote from: BorderlineMagnet on December 11, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
From experience I'd say its hard as hell when there's cheating. Especially when your replacement is so much lesser than yourself, you wonder what the hell your ex was thinking. The idealization that you were so amazing and great, only to find out she's with another guy behind your back is extremely painful.
My r/s was a downhill slide after our D1 (second child) was born. My replacement is a 23 year old college kid (I'm in my early 40s). I was WAY ahead of him at even his age.
My X all but admitted to me that she couldn't handle "this" (a mature r/s). Obviously. I think that's true, and a good way to look at it. It's frustrating, though, when they put out to the world that they can.
Sorry for the thread hijack, santa... .maybe I should get you something for Christmas this time!
Logged
“For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” ― Rudyard Kipling
Turkish
BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Other
Relationship status: "Divorced"/abandoned by SO in Feb 2014; Mother with BPD, PTSD, Depression and Anxiety: RIP in 2021.
Posts: 12183
Dad to my wolf pack
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #6 on:
December 11, 2013, 05:09:44 PM »
Quote from: santa on December 11, 2013, 05:05:35 PM
Quote from: BorderlineMagnet on December 11, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
From experience I'd say its hard as hell when there's cheating. Especially when your replacement is so much lesser than yourself, you wonder what the hell your ex was thinking. The idealization that you were so amazing and great, only to find out she's with another guy behind your back is extremely painful. Only after learning more about BPD did the pain lessen a little, and I was able to understand that no matter how good I was to her (which may have been her trigger in the first place) that the same result would have happened. Also seeing her say the same things about him she did about me showed me that I was just another number, and so is he. My first BPDexgf I had no proof of cheating, but her drug abuse and crazy behavior almost made it easier to get away from her. Time to get off th ride. But with my second BPDexgf everything was so perfect and great that the cheating cut me like a knife.
I'm sure mine will find some dude eventually and I'll have plenty of problems with him. I'll probably use the phrase "One man's trash is another man's treasure" at some point. Either way, it will be very hard. I'll be really upset about it, even though this guy will have met her long after we'd been over and in no way had any effect on the way things turned out. I'll still hate him though. She's playing that same card though talking about how devastated she'll be when I am with someone else.
What a load to say that. She might be, but it's her choice, no? More like the choice of the disorder, which is only one choice (abandon, or drive the partner or loved one to abandon). I'm waiting for mine to pull the patronizing, "you deserve someone good and better!" which she used to all but say now and then during our r/s. My response should probably be, "hell yeah! But so does everybody!"
Logged
“For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” ― Rudyard Kipling
Naddred369
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Posts: 107
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #7 on:
December 11, 2013, 05:29:49 PM »
Santa.
Really like your posts. You are hillarious.Brutal posts. But this BPDIs brutal. Good luck to us Allhit BPD!
Logged
Changingman
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Daughter 15, Son 14
Posts: 644
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #8 on:
December 11, 2013, 06:16:14 PM »
Betrayal trauma
Lord will I trust again, will I be whole ever.
This is a direct physical attack on you.
So sickening, scarring for life
Might get a tattoo for first time, to cover the scar left from this.
Any suggestions
Logged
Turkish
BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Other
Relationship status: "Divorced"/abandoned by SO in Feb 2014; Mother with BPD, PTSD, Depression and Anxiety: RIP in 2021.
Posts: 12183
Dad to my wolf pack
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #9 on:
December 11, 2013, 07:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Changingman on December 11, 2013, 06:16:14 PM
Betrayal trauma
Lord will I trust again, will I be whole ever.
This is a direct physical attack on you.
So sickening, scarring for life
Might get a tattoo for first time, to cover the scar left from this.
Any suggestions
Satan chewing on the souls of traitors trapped in the ice in the 9th circle of hell?
seriously... . if I did, it might be something like my avatar... . better than the tramp stamp my x has. She was kind of upset when I pointed out what it was called. all these years later and no one told her that term,
. she's not trampish, though... . until recently.
Logged
“For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” ― Rudyard Kipling
Ironmanrises
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Posts: 1774
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #10 on:
December 12, 2013, 12:04:27 AM »
I dont know if my exUBPDgf cheated on me in both rounds, or if i was replaced/overlapped, etc. i do know that during friendship, in round 1, and round 2, there were always those orbiters, a la guy "friends" of hers that were sniffing around at the periphery of our friendship(c*ckblockers in modern slang) and those same guy friends
plus
new ones, were always lurking on the very same periphery in both rounds, especially round 2. My exUBPDgf is an incredibly attractive, sexual, dark skin latina woman and never told these guy "friends" to back off, she loved the attention. Whether that developed into cheating, etc i do not know, but it kept me so f¥cking insecure and on edge because they were always
there
and she would
not
do anything to lessen that. You ask if its harder, in my case, possibly and yet again possibly not. Why the dual answer? Do i really want to know if she did? She hurt me badly enough without any direct evidence of
that
. If she did and somehow i found out, a set back would be an understatement. I just know the uneasy feeling i got, especially in round 2, at the end; was far worse then in round 1. It sickens me to contemplate this. Beyond words.
Logged
Changingman
Offline
Gender:
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Daughter 15, Son 14
Posts: 644
Re: Is it harder when there's no cheating?
«
Reply #11 on:
December 12, 2013, 01:59:16 PM »
Guy on this site got stabbed, do you think it is easier for him. Betrayal wounds us in very deep places. Will be a scar for life unseen but real. I won't let the sadist that she was harm me the rest of my life. But easier wow dude.
I know you are hurting but that just sounds masocistic. They attack us on many levels and enjoy it, feel lucky you are out. You are
Sex is a force of nature and demons stalk it's midnight realm.
Good luck healing
Logged
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
Print
BPDFamily.com
>
Relationship Partner with BPD (Straight and LGBT+)
>
Romantic Relationship | Detaching and Learning after a Failed Relationship
> Topic:
Is it harder when there's no cheating?
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Help Desk
-----------------------------
===> Open board
-----------------------------
Relationship Partner with BPD (Straight and LGBT+)
-----------------------------
=> Romantic Relationship | Bettering a Relationship or Reversing a Breakup
=> Romantic Relationship | Conflicted About Continuing, Divorcing/Custody, Co-parenting
=> Romantic Relationship | Detaching and Learning after a Failed Relationship
-----------------------------
Children, Parents, or Relatives with BPD
-----------------------------
=> Son, Daughter or Son/Daughter In-law with BPD
=> Parent, Sibling, or In-law Suffering from BPD
-----------------------------
Community Built Knowledge Base
-----------------------------
=> Library: Psychology questions and answers
=> Library: Tools and skills workshops
=> Library: Book Club, previews and discussions
=> Library: Video, audio, and pdfs
=> Library: Content to critique for possible feature articles
=> Library: BPDFamily research surveys
Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife
Loading...