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« on: March 07, 2017, 03:52:32 PM »

Hi,  

I am dealing with backstabbing, gossip and lies within my own circle of friends and I have no idea how to deal with it. I am always told to just ignore it, but it has not helped but made it worse. I have ignored it for years, but it seems that not defending myself and setting the record straight leaves a lot of room for these lies to cement themselves and be transformed into truths in people's minds and then pretty much everything new just seems to confirm the already existing belief among them about me. I gets increasingly difficult to ignore as I have developed PTSD I am now to fearful of going out because I fear the constant high stress level and anxiety or worse.

I haven't been able to work for over a year because of this situation. I am seeing a T specifically to come up with some plan for how to deal with it, but thought to ask here, how you have dealt with smearing that spreads among your friends and people turning on you?  

In my case it is also making contact between my uBPDxbf very difficult because these people reinforce his unhealthy patterns and make him feel uneasy about any contact with me and instead coming out where I go, because he is still wanting to be where I am.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 04:03:48 PM »

I'm sorry that you're struggling with the smear campaign and lies. I have been going through this myself for a few months now. What I've discovered is that those who believe the lies and smearing are not people that I actually wanted in my life anyway. Those that have stuck around and seen the truth of things have remained my friends. In this process, I have shed several unhealthy relationships and build stronger bonds with the true friends, as well as meeting some awesome new people!

I will admit that it has been very validating to hear from the new people in my inner circle, that have met those that are smearing me, how they have discovered the truth of things.

Some days it is harder to not take all of the lies and gossip personally. I just try to remember the nature of the disorder and let people believe what they will. All the while, I take the high road and let people know me for who I am. I cannot talk them into believing otherwise after all, nor would I want to. No one should have to convince another to like them. If they don't like who I am, I don't need them in my life.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 04:18:06 PM »

Hi Meili,

Yes, I thought that would be the case for me also. The first people he lied to about me I could not have cared less about. But this is now 8 years ago and it has spread through a community with a lot of overlapping social circles, held together by similar a interest, something that I have been involved in for over 30 years so to give that up means I lose everything pretty much. Though it all originated from him it now somehow seems that these lies have a life of their own. I don't even know what it is exactly they say about me, but I do hear enough to know it is there.

I have also been the victim of some bisarre and sick harassment for years from a woman he was dating for a while and that somehow fuelled the smearing even more. I have lost all my former close friends in the city where I live. I am not saying all of them believe what they might hear about me, but they find the situation so uncomfortable that they have removed themselves from me. I don't get invited anymore, nobody calls me anymore. The other thing is that it has made me an easy target for even more abusive people. Kind of a strange but feels like some kind of chain reaction.

It gets really tricky when dealing with PTSD also because I have become so reactive to small triggers that I fear going places, especially since I now have to go by myself. I know people there but I have nobody there that I can trust and rely on. Very scary. But I just need to change tactics since ignoring made it worse.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 04:57:36 PM »

I truly do understand those feelings. My situation, although it hasn't been going on for years like yours has, is not altogether different. It's a pretty tight-knit, albeit rather large, group that I associate with. The majority of my life, including a new business venture that I'm involved with, centers around all of it. There is some overlapping that happens as well.

When all of this first started, I wanted to defend myself, but what could I say or do? I don't have any real knowledge of what is happening on her end. I just know that people have pulled away from me and gravitated toward her. I know that people who used to buy products from me, who still associate with her, have stopped. The only way that I can defend myself is by being the best version of myself that I can be. People will believe what they want.

Have you come up with any ideas about how to deal with your situation?
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2017, 12:43:14 AM »

When all of this first started, I wanted to defend myself, but what could I say or do? I don't have any real knowledge of what is happening on her end. I just know that people have pulled away from me and gravitated toward her. I know that people who used to buy products from me, who still associate with her, have stopped. The only way that I can defend myself is by being the best version of myself that I can be.

That is awful for you. Sometimes it surprises me how one person can influence others to that extent. I always get the feeling that if I  tried to do it, it would immediately be seen as an attempt to backstab him and the people around him and would backfire on me. Why does that not happen to them?

This field of interest that my groups center around is quite competitive and there's a lot of 'having to elbow your way through', I just never did that but I do know lots of people now and they appreciate my level. I really thought that it would be enough to be the best version of myself, to rise above all of this, that that in itself would speak some truth about me to others, but I have come to understand that all that makes little difference to how people treat you or to how they see you. It helps if you have a group around you, but the more people turn their backs on you, the less support you will have from those that are still around. Humans are social creatures and to be included in the group and not become ostracized is paramount to, well, survival, even to us nowadays, though it is a different kind of survival. So people do not want to be connected and associated with somebody they feel is not accepted into the group, and oftentimes I think they would not even bother to find out why that person is no longer acceptable to the group as a whole.

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People will believe what they want.

Yes, and they will fill in the blanks with whatever information they do have. I think I made a huge mistake not setting the record straight before this had got so out of hand. It's like a lot of these people believe they have the truth about me, so whatever I do just confirms their perception of me.

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Have you come up with any ideas about how to deal with your situation?

I have just started seeing a T (specialist in attachment theory) specifically to deal just with this situation. He asked me what I wanted to do, rather than the result that I wanted to see from it. I found this interesting. I see that there is value in expressing myself, my feelings, and not forcing myself to exist in a situation that now feels intolerable. So I have a lot of suppressed anger because of all these years of "taking the high road". And I feel better just thinking there is something that I can do, that I can influence my situation somehow. I accept his BPD, and my PTSD, but I am not willing to accept that my life gets destroyed because of it.

One idea, that I have not discussed with the T yet is to tell people the truth - partly about having PTSD as it affects me so much around people in this environment, and partly about my ex having BPD. I have never told anybody but close friends about this. He has told a couple of people himself. But not admitting that when this infected situation comes up leaves a vacuum that has to be filled somehow to explain all the craziness and as he, and his friends, have already told people so many lies about me, and these lies are already out there floating around so to speak, they just sucked into this vacuum to fill that void and make some sense of it.

I don't really want to tell people something so personal about us, but I also don't want to let this happen to me anymore. I wouldn't do it out of vindictiveness, but out of self-protection and self-preservation.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 09:47:09 AM »

Why does that not happen to them?

My guess is that because people who are not intimate with the pwBPD only get to see the very charismatic side of them. It's hard for them to believe what the non goes through because they never see it.

When we stand up for ourselves and try to explain the situation, we look like the "crazy ex." That's why the advice is always to let them act as they are going to act and let people see the truth in who we are.

It sounds like that hasn't work well for you for all of these years. I'm sorry for that.

I have just started seeing a T (specialist in attachment theory) specifically to deal just with this situation. He asked me what I wanted to do, rather than the result that I wanted to see from it. I found this interesting. I see that there is value in expressing myself, my feelings, and not forcing myself to exist in a situation that now feels intolerable.

I agree. Expressing yourself is a powerful thing. In this situation, it may not change how people feel or view either one of you, but at least you'll be able to empower yourself by doing what you need to do for you.
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