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« on: October 19, 2017, 03:29:00 AM »

Hey folks! I am new here.
I recently saw a therapist because I could not sleep and I did not know what to do for my wife's crises.

When I told my therapist about my wife's emotional crises, hysterias, blame, distortions, etc. she pointed me to a book called "stop walking on eggshells" which I just read and it all clicked.

I don't know how to tell her yet, I am reading, talking to my therapist, trying to set some rules and limits, it's draining knowing and not being able to tell. She also lied to me recently and we have not yet addressed it. I am trying to help and keep a positive attitude, but I am a go-fixer. Sitting here knowing and not knowing what to do is agonizing.

I don't know how to recognize progress and what to expect. I want to help her but I also want to help myself. For now I am doing my best to tune down conversations and discussions and engage in non-combative communication only but she pushes buttons dozens of times per day - it's unreal.
- Anybody in my situation? How did you know you were making progress for yourself or your BPD?
- What have been important milestones in seeking therapy for your partner who may have BPD?
- How to get her to recognize the splits and distortions without pointing them outright? She is very wary of being diagnosed with any mental condition and the few times she's seen somebody she has generalized that she feels anxious from time to time and lists the (possible but unreal) reasons for that such as not working, not being challenged, and me having a very stressful life.

Thank you!
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 05:20:17 AM »

Hi BPD Supporter,

Nice to meet ya and welcome to the family! Smiling (click to insert in post)

It sounds like you've made a good start on this. I would caution against any notion of being of a "go-fixer" if I understand you correctly. No "fixing" of other people works. Smiling (click to insert in post) And her "recognition" is also not a goal to fixate on from all I've picked up reading here. I just talk with my guy about "emotional sensitivity" - he acknowledges he has that and that is enough for me. Mental health issues are hard for people to claim sometimes because they are scary and hard to feel sure about because our brains can do a lot of gymnastics! I know if I was told I had a mental health issue I would feel scared, and if I was told it was hopeless and there was no cure I'd be freaked out. You don't need a label to make things better. These tools can improve any relationship if you practice them actively.

There are a lot of insightful resources here on the right side of the board. (All the Basic Tools and the Lessons 1-6) It takes some time and effort but go through them and you will have more communication tools that could make things a bit easier. It takes practice, but you will likely feel much better knowing you have thought out responses.  

If you like to fix stuff I have some good news... .you can fix you! Smiling (click to insert in post) I had to! I thought I was pretty awesome, but in all honesty I had slipped a lot in my communication skills, phoned it in a bit, and I was making things worse thinking I was setting boundaries, and having no clue about his way of experiencing the world, etc. You need to be ready for a total rethink on how to relate to a relationship partner, but that's really worth it.

All those stresses you mention are real stresses, but if she emotionally dysregulates her responses to them could be making those challenges even more difficult than they naturally are.

Is there a tool or lesson that sounds like a good start for you? Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 07:39:50 AM »


- Anybody in my situation? How did you know you were making progress for yourself or your BPD?
- What have been important milestones in seeking therapy for your partner who may have BPD?
- How to get her to recognize the splits and distortions without pointing them outright? She is very wary of being diagnosed with any mental condition and the few times she's seen somebody she has generalized that she feels anxious from time to time and lists the (possible but unreal) reasons for that such as not working, not being challenged, and me having a very stressful life.


Hi there, I want to join Pearlsw in welcoming you Welcome

Anyone in your situation?... . Take a look at the number of members, we are a whole bunch of people who know what you are strugling with. We all make a lot of mistakes that we can share so the others learn from them without commiting them themselves. That's great, right?

How did you know you were making progress for yourself or your BPD? ... .This is a marathon, we all wanted to be fixers at one point, but our work has to be a commitment for the long run. Improvement, progress are things we'll see soon enough, but fixing, a 180ยบ Change... .That can be very frustrating if you have that in mind. It is a difficult question, because we make progress and then one day it seems like everything is worse, or completely gone, and then a week later we see the sunshine. So it is not easy to measure, but we know, we feel it. Every relationship has its pointers and signals.

Here you have a lesson about getting your loved one to go to therapy: https://bpdfamily.com/content/how-to-get-borderline-into-therapy I hope it helps you. My approach has been always to say that someone deserves therapy/help instead of needing therapy/help. The diagnosis is an important milestone and a destabilizing one, even if they suspected all their life that they had a mental illness, even if they joke about it and say it out loud... .Having a doctor label you as "insane" it's a big blow to their emotions. At the same time, knowing there are more people like yourself out there, can be very supporting and end/paliate a life long struggle for identity. Idealy, this realization and the hope for a specific treatment, and for a life worth living would come before the diagnosis.

My gf told me recently, that my reaction to her diagnosis, made the whole difference about wanting to life after having it. It was the best recognition I could have. A good way to learn about this is the book "The Budda and the Borderline", I think anyone with BPD would read it and say "Wow I have this!" And it is writen in 1st person, so you feel compasion and hope for the person suffering, and if you have it, you instantly know there are more people like you out there.

HERE there are a lot of people like YOU, we are here to listen and to walk our path parallel to yours. Coming here was a milestone for me, it opened a roadblock and I felt hope for the first time in a long while. Knowing that I had people to talk about this, lifted a lot of weight off my shoulders too. I don't cease to work, so you miss the milestones often, but one day you look back and realize the fights haven't been bad for months, that you feel different, and that you have tools where you felt powerless before.

Be patient. There is a lot to learn, but it can't be done in a day. You'll answer your questions, with slow realizations, and you'll know that other questions weren't the right ones. Some of it is not in our hands, friend. They have a path to walk themselves. And many many times, we just have to get out of the way, and trust and hope, and be there on the side. As PEarlsw said, You need to be ready for a total rethink Take a step back and learn what is the new logic in this relationship. Be patient and humble. Take a step back, and then many small sure steps ahead. Many times, being still will be enormusly better that steping in the wrong direction. Don't fear that, it just means that you probably have to do less than what you think you must, and when you learn that, it is a calming reality.

As a start, I would say that you agree with her that she has anxiety. It is more important that she knows that you believe her. Than for her to realize it is more than that. One of the most important tools is validation. And more than that, not being invalidating.

As I told you, we are here to listen. I know you are suffering yourself, to the point that you can't sleep, and you sure feel lost. I bet that reading Eggshells comforted you in the knowledge that things started to make sense. The more you learn, the less lost you'll feel, new concepts take some time to sink in. I hope you recover a healty sleeping time. Would you like to tell us more about youself, or your experience? You are on the right track, don't let your agony about wanting to tell and fix things get in the way of the progress. We know it burns inside, but it pays to be patient and sure-footed.

Take care.

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 11:56:24 AM »

 
 you can't fix them only one you can fix is  you. i have been in a BPD marriage for 20 years  known as long also it was horrible at first. rages all the time i had to set boundaries learn to talk different . i had to understand what BPD is all about.learn about me
 telling the other person they have BPD might not work didn't for me.  what started out bad now isn't bad at all. it is like we live a normal life the black white still there. but not as bad as it was. he works full time he is very high functioning. sometimes i forget he has BPD and i have to come on here, because i catch my self asking why is  he doing this? or what do you mean you don't remember,  forgetting he has BPD . again hi  wanted to say hi
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 12:38:38 PM »

Thank you. I will post here as things move along. Thanks for the support.
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