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« on: June 22, 2019, 06:41:42 AM »

I recently joined this site to try to understand what I am experiencing in my life. I have been married 8 yrs now with 2 young children.

Our first encounter with counseling was after my daughter was born. My exhaustion from endless sleepless nights and a full time job without any help from my husband to give me some relief brought us there because he felt as if he didn’t matter and that I was suffering from post partum depression. To be honest I feel it was just exhaustion from lack of sleep and running in empty.

We moved on had a second child and again were back in counseling. Part of the reason due to the stress created from my mother confronting him about not being there for me and my family. She was angry because on the day I was to be released from the hospital after having our son which I scheduled around his work schedule he told me he couldn’t come until after work to pick us up from the hospital ( he owns and runs his own landscaping business) My SIL brought us home that day and my mother was over all week helping me and at the end of the week she decided to speak her mind. So for several years I also had to contend with two separate lives. He never attended any of our family parties so I was forced to attend all functions with just my kids and skip holidays without my family.

His thinking is that my “family “ is just the four of us. As if my siblings and parents are not where my focus of family should be. Even now that things have improved over the years and they have a better relationship.

I feel he is very controlling in the sense he has to know everything that’s going on at all times. I feel as though he does not trust anyone. Always questions me why I am home late from work. Yesterday I decided to go out with my kids and my nephews and he wanted to know if this was planned. The other day he questioned that I brought my son to day care early I said I had Dr appt. well I didn’t know was his response. Is this normal?
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2019, 12:39:44 PM »

Hi SilentNight:
I'm so sorry about the situations you describe.  It has to be very frustrating and disappointing for you. Is your husband receptive to seeking a mental health evaluation?

I wouldn't worry too  much about a diagnosis, especially if he takes the position of "nothing wrong with me".  You are describing some strong BPD traits, but these traits are not unique to a BPD diagnosis.  Getting a diagnosis, with some meds and/or treatment, can be helpful, but a person needs to be receptive and have a desire to manage certain behaviors.

Most people who get an official BPD diagnosis, have other diagnosed mental health disorders.  Anxiety and depression are a couple of the lesser most common disorders (ADHD, OCD, bipolar and other disorders can be in play as well).  When a disorder, such as anxiety, goes unmanaged, the BPD behaviors can stack up.  Many times life events can add stress and thereby exacerbate the bad behaviors.

People with anxiety like to control things.  It can make them less anxious.  Jealousy, silent treatment, grudge holding and controlling behaviors can be very frustrating to deal with.  Sounds like he may have shown some signs of jealousy, after the birth of your first child.  Prior to that, did he show any signs of his undesirable behaviors, perhaps to a lesser degree?

How about within his family, does anyone show signs of any mental health issues and/or display some of his behaviors?

Are you in marriage counseling at the current time?

The communication tools that you find on this website are good tool to use in any relationships, even with so called "normal" people.  If you go to the green band at the top of this page, and to the "tools" menu" you will find some links to some lessons to start with.  "Boundaries" is a good tool that everyone should master, even in health relationships.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2019, 05:16:28 AM »

It makes me feel a little less crazy hearing that this behavior is not normal and that his behavior is not my fault. Any time he lets things build up and then explodes he goes on a rant about the fact that he tells me what I need to do to make him happy and all I do is ignore him. He passes complete blame on me for his unhappiness because all I ever do is go against him.

We are currently not in counseling. I find it odd in the past two rounda though not once did our therapist mention anything about him or mental issues. Instead our focus was on his needs. My past because I also have grown up with a very controlling mother. Often times I find myself in similar situations as I did growin up in a very difficult environment with a mother that would have explosive episodes because she meds to be in control as well.

There were signs prior to kids. Even then if I didn’t agree with him he would have firs of anger. Looking back I should have known. But now we have two children together so not so easy to just walk away. I worry about their future and the effects on them.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2019, 02:54:52 PM »

Hi again, SilentNight:
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I also have grown up with a very controlling mother.       
Seems to be a common theme, where people choose a partner who exhibits unhealthy traits of one of their parents.  Generally, it's because it's familiar.  Also, some people tend to accept the behavior, because they haven't processed childhood issues.

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   We are currently not in counseling. I find it odd in the past two rounds though not once did our therapist mention anything about him or mental issues. Instead our focus was on his needs.     
Unless both individuals are motivated and open to view their own behaviors (and consider change), I believe counseling is generally unsuccessful (with the goal to improve the relationship).  Sadly, most people with BPD/BPD traits only go to marriage counseling, with the only goal to change their partner.

Did you ever try to promote your needs in counseling?  Did you perhaps feel a bit intimidated, thinking the counselor seemed to take your husband's side?

Did you use the same counselor for the 2 counseling rounds?  What credentials did the therapist (s) have?  How many sessions per round? 

I've read where others have had a similar situation, where it appears that the counselor/therapist favors the disordered person (who portrays their self favorably during sessions)  .  Did the counselor ever meet with either of you separately, at the start of a round of counseling?  Guess I'd prefer a counselor who starts a round of couple's counseling, with an individual session with both people.  I think it could be valuable to get candid input from the individuals separately, and then observe how things play out in joint sessions.

I don't think that marriage counselors speak out, during a joint session, and offer a diagnosis for either of the participants.  I think you generally need to inquire in private (husband not there).  Was there a declared "final session", during your therapy rounds, or did you just quit going?

You might consider going to individual counseling sessions for yourself, with a different therapist. I can see that it has to be very invalidating for you to not be heard during joint counseling.

You might want to check out the individual traits that can factor into a BPD diagnosis.  A person has to exhibit at least 5 of the traits.  The traits listed are not unique to BPD.
DSM Definition: Borderline Personality Disorder
https://bpdfamily.com/content/borderline-personality-disorder

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There were signs prior to kids. Even then if I didn’t agree with him he would have fits of anger. Looking back I should have known. But now we have two children together so not so easy to just walk away. I worry about their future and the effects on them.       

You can't change your husband.  The only thing you can do is to set boundaries and manage the way you interact and react.

In regard to your children, it will be helpful for them to get some coaching on emotional intelligence and feelings.  Learning about emotions and ways to manage feelings is valuable.  When children witness bad behaviors, such as "the silent treatment",  "blame game", etc.; they will likely imitate that behavior down the road, unless they learn healthy alternative.  I don't know about you (in regard to your mom), but my dad used "The Silent Treatment", during my younger years.  Looking back, I wished my mom was equipped to coach me on healthy alternatives.

The website below has some games & tutorials that can be appropriate for various age groups (children & adolescents):
https://www.therapistaid.com/tools/none/children

You might want to do a few Internet searches for "Fear of Abandonment" & "Separation Anxiety".  Either or both of these problems could factor into your partner's need to want to control you and his need to know where you are at all times.

Just throwing out some thought - things to consider.
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