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« on: February 10, 2013, 08:13:21 PM »

Some things didn't add up.

-We had sex on the first date.  She was very into it.

-A couple weeks in she starts to tell me about a time two guys f--ked her at the same time.  She seemed proud of herself.  I asked her to stop talking about it immediately.  I said: While I don't like not knowing the truth, I didn't want to tarnish my mind with imagery of her having sex with other guys.

-At another point, she told me how this older roommate guy (she must've been about 17 or 18, he about 50) told her that she should work for him as an escort and be his girlfriend and that he didn't care that she'd be f--king other guys.  She also looked very proud of herself when she told me that.  I told her I was disgusted.

-About 3 months in she starts crying and dissociating during sex saying she had been suppressing her rape trauma.  Previously sex was very fun and lighthearted.

-Sex went from everyday to rarely ever.

-She told me she was raped 3 times all by different offenders. 

However, she would also say other things that led me to believe either (a) she had led these men on and wanted them to have sex with her and then felt victimized afterward (b) she had been assaulted more than she was willing to accept (c) some mangled mess of the two.

For instance, aside from the three rapes she told me about, she tells me much later how the old man (mentioned above, who was supposedly only a roommate) wanted to "own her", how she'd wake up and he'd be sitting on the edge of her bed (What the heck?), how he forced her to 69 with him -- I don't know how that didn't count as rape in her recollection of trauma.

-However, when we went to therapy together, she said "I felt like he's (struggli's) been raping me for the last 6 months"  WHAT?  I started crying and said I had no idea and, based on my experience with her, it was NOTHING like that.

So, it's like there's this promiscuous "I'm going to be a hooker, I've done all kinds of kinky things, I've had sex with many guys" side and a "I'm a victim, I'm terrified of sex, You only want me for sex" side.  But I guess that makes sense for BPD/PTSD/... .  ?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2013, 08:37:24 PM »

My soon to be UBPDexw also told me as we are in the process of the divorce that all I ever kept her around for was sex.  I was like What the heck?  If I kept you around for 19 years just because of the sex I must be crazier than she is.  I think it all goes back to their initial trama and she thinks that's the only reason I stayed with her becuase that's all she's good for.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 08:56:47 PM »

Some things didn't add up.

-We had sex on the first date.  She was very into it.

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-About 3 months in she starts crying and dissociating during sex

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So, it's like there's this promiscuous "I'm going to be a hooker,

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But I guess that makes sense for BPD/PTSD/... .  ?

Hi Struggli,

My first uBPDgf, very similar. First date, very into it; actually the sex happened because she grabbed my hand at the door when I was leaving, held onto it, I was already having second thoughts about even having a second date, but no, I stayed (that night, and etc.). Great sex.

Then, second time we had sex, probably the next time we were together, sex still seemed great but she cried for an hour afterward. I had no idea why. Really, I still don't, except that I believe that she was sexually abused by her father, violently, and was terrified of him her whole life at home.

Then the 'maybe I should be a hooker?' Yes, she came up with that later.

Promiscuity? I don't know the extent, but definitely some -- she had a quickie during a party with someone she worked with two weeks before we first had our pivotal date, yet she was jumping from a relatively stable boyfriend to me -- the quickie was somebody else.

Soon after we were together she told me she had just that day gone to a film by herself and a man beside her had groped her, and she felt disgusted at him and at herself but couldn't do anything, just sat there and let him do it.

She told me later about how in university she used to double-book guys for dates, regularly. She'd sometimes decide at the last minute which one she was going out with, and just stand the other one up, no explanation.

So, based on my experience, I believe what you describe is BPD related, but in my opinion likely also means there was serious early sexual abuse. Perhaps not possible to separate the two in this case.

There must be BPD without a heavy direct sexual abuse component also, which might not have these same patterns, but yours seems eerily familiar to me.

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 09:24:02 PM »

So, it's like there's this promiscuous "I'm going to be a hooker, I've done all kinds of kinky things, I've had sex with many guys" side and a "I'm a victim, I'm terrified of sex, You only want me for sex" side.  But I guess that makes sense for BPD/PTSD/... .  ?

IMHO not necessarily BPD.  She sounds like a childhood sexual abuse survivor.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 08:34:05 AM »

Mine was very sexual, high sex drive, I wouldnt class her as bisexual but she had done stuff with girls, and ALOT of things with boys.

She also cried after sex quite a bit
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2013, 08:40:39 AM »

The last couple times my wife and I had sex before I filed she started to cry also.  I couldn't understand it.  Also in the beginning of our marriage (sex) was always painful for her. And when I turned black she started using the statement (It's just sex) not for me - it was making love and a way to express my love.  She has also said recently that she doesn't want to meet guys because they are only after one thing and she won't do that!  Time wil tell!
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2013, 02:22:49 PM »



Hi!

As I read these things... .  related to a topic asking if you believe your expartners past... .  are you sure this is real?

I mean, my exBPDbf, whose child abuse is not related as far as I know with sex, has that same weird relation with sex. A huge strong guy he is, and very honest, he didn´t hesitate to say no to anything, I mean, there is no possibility that a girl out of shape like me could do him harm, OK? Well he used to say these things in cycles:

- I raped yesterday, you must have been surprised but at the end I´m sure you liked it, like my ex.

- YOU raped me yesterday, it was a rape in all its glory! (I thought these two were a joke)

- So, you have sex, that´s all you want and then you leave  my house after that.

- I´m going to touch you but not giving you anything else so you go to your home hot.

- We don´t have enough sex, you are always keeping me away.


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