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« on: March 04, 2013, 04:00:34 AM »

Hi everyone, my name is Nikki. I'm 22 and I've been with my fiancé for 5 years. We recently became convinced that his sister has BPD. She had always done things that disturbed me in their level of irresponsibility and selfishness, but my fiancé always just told me she was very spoiled and manipulative.

But about a month ago I became the target of her outlandish rage. It started on Facebook. Apparently there was a post on my fiancé's page written by his friend stating that a particular political point of view was "cowardly". His sister just so happened to believe the so-called "cowardly" point of view. Now I occasionally make political posts on my Facebook and clearly she'd seen the ones where I expressed a different point of view from hers on the subject, but I had nothing to do with my fiancé's friend's rant. All I knew is that one day she posted 4 pictures on my wall from her political pages expressing her views. At first I was really baffled (one of them said "Hitler get 6 million people to follow him blindly? Then I realized I'm in America." What does that even mean?), but I figured she must be trying to get on my nerves for some reason. So I decided to "kill her with kindness" and respond to each one in the nicest way possible while explaining why I disagree. I told her I enjoyed discussing politics and that I hoped we could learn from each other. She responded with different variations of "it's cute how naive you are Smiling (click to insert in post)" and told me I was a "sheep who believes whatever the media tells me" and etc. I responded by telling her that I was interested in hearing her opinions but I wasn't going to talk to her if she just wanted to be angry and call me names.

This is when the s hit the fan. She said she never called me names and that I was the one who called her a coward. I had NO IDEA what she was talking about. I was worried she was on drugs so I texted her mom (with whom she lives) to ask if she was ok because she was posting weird things on my Facebook that didn't make sense. She said she was fine but under a lot of stress. My future sister in law then sent me a private message saying all kinds of things about how I think I'm so much better than her and I have never cared about her and called me names like "know it all btch" and so forth. So I took screen shots to show my fiancé and blocked her. After I showed him he logged on to his Facebook and discovered a comment she left before she started things with me on that (month old) post saying things about how vegetarians don't know anything about the "real" world, when eating meat had nothing to do with anything. I am the only vegetarian around, so she clearly somehow thought she was talking to me.

He then saw her status saying, "A certain someone called me a coward for believing x and told me I was ignorant!" Her mother in law asked her what happened and she replied "I'll message you... .  " So my fiancé posted telling her that she needed to pay attention to what she was doing because what she read was on HIS Facebook. So she did the only rational thing and blocked him and started to text us both constantly for over an hour. The texts she sent me were just a series of insults, and ironically demanding that I leave her alone despite the fact that I did not respond to a single one. The texts she sent him were mainly about how "blood is supposed to be thicker than water" and he loves me so much more than her and it's not fair because her life has been *so hard* while I have never had a real problem in my life.

After the smoke cleared he did some Internet research and discovered BPD. It explains everything, including behavior she displayed in childhood. My problem right now is how to move forward. I'm still hurt and angry because I feel like I can't go to family functions anymore, particularly because her in laws are at every one, and who knows what lies she told them about me (she went to stay with them for a few days while she was still upset because her mom wouldn't take her side 100%). I really want to be a part of my fiancé's family, but I don't know how to deal. Help?

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 07:34:37 AM »

Hello Nikkixo,

Welcome

I'm glad you found us. We can help as you and your fiance navigate your relationship with your future sister in law.

It is very difficult being in your position, especially when there have been public posts and now her mother in law too. BPD is a terrible illness that affects relationships. Your experience is very common and many here will say they have experienced similar. While we can't diagnose BPD or any other type of illness, there are many skills that you can learn to help you whether it is BPD or not.

Here are a couple of links to get you started in understanding BPD.

The Symptoms and Diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder [NEW]

BPD: What is it? How can I tell?

The below link is an example of tools/skills that will help in the relationhship.

How To Manage a BPD Relationship/Reducing Anger Using SET

How long ago did this happen?

Has your future sister in law been in communication recently?

Looking forward to hearing from you and learning how we can help.

Being Mindful
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 08:34:51 AM »

Thank you so much for your helpful response. The incident happened about a month ago. She has not attempted to contact me, even after I dropped off a birthday present for her son with her mom. She did send a message to my fiancé a couple days ago apologizing to him. She wrote, "Things got out of control and I said some things I didn't mean... .  I hope we can make a mends and put all the drama behind us. The past is the past, we can't go back and change it. That's life. Live it. Love it. Learn from it. You never know what tomorrow will bring, life is too short. So can we please be a family again? I love you!"

Immediately afterward she sent him an invite to a "gender reveal" party she is having for her latest pregnancy. She loves throwing big parties but she doesn't have any friends to invite, so it seems pretty obvious why she finally decided to apologize. We don't plan on going. I'd like to be able to get along with her but I don't see an apology for me in the future.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 08:12:12 PM »

 Welcome

Being Mindful has posted some great reading material.

Nikkixo, on going forward – it may be helpful to not react/engage or feed the drama - its creating a conflict cycle. Its important to understand that we cannot change someone else’s opinion and stepping back and not reacting within the moment will help us see some clarity and how we are contributing.

Right now I see a drama triangle – the best way to step out of the triangle is not engage – be the more emotionally mature one and not react. We need to learn to give up being right. Its not important.

Conflict dynamics / Karpman Triangle
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 11:22:51 PM »

Clearmind,

Thank you for your input. The drama triangle theory is really interesting, but I'm not seeing how it applies in this particular situation. I disengaged from her fairly quickly. I'm not seeking contact with her. I'm keeping all of my frustrations about this to myself - or between myself and the internet anyway. But everything else I've read on BPD says that you need to set up boundaries. I want to know how to make it clear to her that I'm not going to put up with her abuse without necessarily isolating myself from the entire family if I can.

Can you explain what led you to see the drama triangle in my situation?
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 06:16:54 PM »

Nikkixo, we have an advantage in a sense if we suspect a loved one has BPD – it allows us to “manage” situations in a way that does not cause behaviors to escalate.

No response is the best response – if we are aware their actions annoy us – its best to step back and not respond at all – this can escalate – as it has here. Drama ensues Nikki and she won’t back down – then we need to be the mature ones and let it slide. Instead, you text her Mom – now involving her – I understand you did this because you care however if your sister-in-law is BPD or has BPD traits we need to learn how to manage conflict in a different way. Then your fiancé posted on FB also getting involved.

What has occurred now is that your SIL is making you out to be the persecutor in the drama triangle, she is the victim and mom is playing the rescuing role. Participating in the drama triangle causes creates misery for everyone involved and can be the cause of fractured relationships.

Nikki, the best way to move forward is to step back when she needles you – it will end poorly if we counter-attack and it will escalate. Some tips:

1.   In this instance – we could ignore her remark on your fiancés FB page. Especially being FB – FB is a Borderlines playground. She will create a drama triangle if given the chance – which she has.

2.   Move to the centre of the triangle using sensitivity, compassion, and responsibility – resist the pull to play any role in the triangle - no point counter-attacking – stepping back does make her right or wrong – it simply stops the conflict cycle – stepping back shifts the drama into neutral.

3.   Try not to do battle – this will disarm her - she will then halt the attacks, because you are not providing the fodder - and she will move herself out of the drama.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 09:49:45 PM »

Thank you for explaining that for me. Of course if I had known what BPD was at the time the incident occurred I would have handled things differently. I would have understood why she was being so irrational and off-base with reality so there wouldn't have been the temptation to involve her mom. I wouldn't have had the nagging fear that something was very wrong with her because I would have known exactly what was wrong with her. And my fiancé would have known not to bother with the actual facts of who said what because he would have realized that in her mind, her feelings WERE facts - and the only relevant facts at that. But these are not things that most people can just intuitively understand without doing a fair bit of research on BPD.

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 01:39:10 AM »

Nikki, I had a BPD partner and a BPD father - and I agree with you - that if I had known about BPD I would have handled things very differently. Kudos to you for coming here to learn and makes things better for you and your hubby.

The theory of the drama triangle also works in everyday situations with non-BPD folks too. Once I learnt the tool here I apply it to all aspects of my life - however you are right - conflict seems to be at an all time high with Borderlines.

Where is the situation at right now with SIL?
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