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« on: April 17, 2013, 08:26:44 AM »

It's going on 3 months since I had to kick my ex out.  Things between us had gotten so bad between us... .   the raging was escalating and ultimately he started to direct the raging towards my child.  When the dysfunction was directed at my child it really woke me up.  Plus, I had just discovered the lies and deceit of emotional affairs going on behind my back... .   one of which was with a married women who introduced us.  I'd ask my ex not to communicate with her and he promised he wouldn't... .   well, it goes without saying that he didn't keep his promise.  There seems to be this bond between them that they can't seem to let go of.  She is in a very unhappy marriage and has had two other affairs besides the one with my ex.  Like my ex, she has no problems overextending the boundaries.  He says that she is ADHD (don't know if she's formally been diagnosed with such) but I did a little research into ADHD and affairs and low and behold, it is a huge problem.  I guess since people with ADHD tend to get bored real easily and are very impulsive, they have affairs.  So, my ex BPD boyfriend and this ADHD are truly a perfect couple... .   their personalities are very compatible.  After the physical affair between this married women and my ex ended, they continued to be "friends" (I believe with benefits still at times but whatever) and my ex continued to hang with her husband and her family and go on vacations with them and go to football games with her husband... .   to me, it's just so wrong.  I still can't wrap my head around how my ex could have a physical affair with a married women, befriend her children and husband and just hang out like nothing ever happened... .   no remorse for sure.  Is it just me that this all seems so bizarre?

Anyway, after kicking him out he has continued to try to maintain contact and makes numerous attempts at getting me back.  I've gone from blocking him on facebook which he still is to blocking him on text and phone calls.  I'm trying to move forward.  In fact, I'm going to divorce and recovery meetings and counseling.  We never married (thank goodness) but the divorce and recovery meetings still apply in that I'm recovering and trying to move forward.  In my counseling sessions, I'm truly discovering that I've lost myself in this relationship.  I don't know who I am anymore and need to find me.  :)uring my relationship with my ex we did his hobbies and his interests... .   it was always all about him.  I became very codependent on him... .   that is my dysfunction.  I allowed him to manipulate me, control me and be verbally abusive towards me.  

Well, we started communicating again over a race we were suppose to do together and one thing led to another and I finally reached my breaking point and send an email outlining his issues.  I never said he had BPD but I talked about how he refuses to assume responsibility for anything... .   he blame shifts, he rages, etc. etc. It got very painful and ugly.  I felt so awful the next morning that I asked if we could meet for coffee.  I just want to stop the pain and try to leave on a pleasant note.  He agreed and we met up to talk.  We talked for hours about what we'd been doing in our lives, our children, etc.  It was good to see him and I really enjoyed it.  I let him hold for awhile.  I told him that we are definitely in two different places in that I can't and won't be his girlfriend and he of course still wants me.  He says he understands but still wants us to be friends and try to heal together.  Well, the next day we met again.  We went to the gym and had lunch and talked some more.  This time we talked about his married "friend".  It was very circular in that we still continue to say the same things.  I can see that he is trying to be more forthright and offer more information when i ask but still very difficult for him.  He says he is sorry and he messed up but yet he'll later say that I wouldn't let go of the issue hence I ultimately drove him back to her.  I sense he still deep down still blames me... .   he is never at fault for anything.  

Low and behold one of my daughters friends must of seen my ex and I talking and this person told my daughter.  She didn't know I had meet up with him (obviously I didn't tell her for she wouldn't understand and didn't need to know) and when I got home she went ballistic on me.  She feels I deceived her and how could I go back to a man who ultimately was abusive towards us?  

What the ... .    am I doing?  Part of me wants to leave him but part of me can't.  I so enjoyed my weekend talking with him.  There is such a beautiful part of this man that I want almost feel that I need but there is the other side which I know I can't handle.  Although I know in my heart I can never be in an intimate relationship with this man, I thought maybe we could be friends or at least leave on friendly terms and still maintain contact.  I just can't seem to let go and he is making this so hard.  Last night he sent me an email saying that he understands that I need time to heal and he will just wait til I'm ready for him.  I don't even know what to say to him.  I have told him that I can't go back to him as a girlfriend but somehow I feel like I am leading him on because he still has hopes and believes that he can seduce me back.  He even asked yesterday if he could just have a few weeks with me to say goodbye and a last time to make love.  Part of me wants to make love to him again and part of me says "what the hhit_  are you thinking?"

Please someone help me see the bigger picture here.  I'm so confused.  Am I going back to him because I'm just so darn lonely that I am desperate and have nothing else or is it because I still need him in my life.  I don't know what to do anymore.  I  am so devastated that I hurt my daughter.  I don't understand why I'm doing certain things anymore.  I am an educated women but I seem to be acting solely on emotions.  Please, any input would be greatly appreciated... .   thank you Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 10:02:05 AM »

Why do you think things would be different if you went back to him? It sounds to me like he still blames  you for his affair... .   are you in individual therapy? If you aren't then maybe try it, you need to figure out what would drive you back to repeat the same mistakes again.  Maybe it is just physical attraction? You can still sleep with him and not go back to a relationship? Make sure to use protection because of his potential promiscuity.

As for hurting your daughter, that is tough... .   I think there are many healthy guys out there that you could pursue when you are up to it.

good luck
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 01:53:45 PM »

Thank you for your support.  I agree, physical activity is a lifesaver right now.  I usually go to the gym 6 days a week and lately with all the craziness, I haven't been but maybe twice a week.  I can feel the difference.  I'm glad to hear that you are playing music and running.  Running is something that my ex got me into and I so enjoy it.  He has had me do a few 5 k's and I miss doing races with him.  He is much more advanced than me (he does triathlons) but yet he will stay with me during the races and pace me and encourage me.  I miss those bounding moments.  So much good came out of our relationship yet so much bad too.   :'(

hithere,

I am going to individual therapy.  I went once with my ex in the beginning and after watching him sit there and lie, I realized I couldn't do it anymore.  My counselor is baffled by my "addiction" to this guy.  I do feel addicted to him.  Yes, obviously there is a physical component.  He is just like most other BPD people.  He is extremely handsome and very seductive.  There is a boyish quality to him also which is irresistible.  He knows how to turn on the seductiveness and it works.  I get pulled in over and over again.  I know things won't change with him.  I know he will never fully assume responsibility for the affairs.  Yet, I still desire his company.  I feel like I have no life now that he is gone.  

You are asking me or telling me that I can sleep with him without having a relationship?  I'm not sure what you are saying.  

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 02:11:28 PM »

Yes, we do all understand.  I am in agonizing pain, but I know that if i went back it may feel better for a few weeks and then the devaluizatin would start all over again.  I know this because i have lived through three recycles.  It starts with lots of loving and hot sex and then it turns into him being jealous and controlling and raging, then silent treatments, etc, etc.  I wil suffer for how ever long it takes because in the end I will be much better off.  I just started dating, working out and listening to music again too.  It hurts, it sucks but stick around and we will make it through this together.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 02:19:57 PM »

vegasskydiver,

How long after the BPD breakup did you wait before you started dating?  

I am craving attention... .   yet I don't want to get into a relationship prematurely and be taken by surprise again.  

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 03:02:58 PM »

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You are asking me or telling me that I can sleep with him without having a relationship?  I'm not sure what you are saying.

I would never presume to tell you what to do.  But I am just throwing it out there, if you desire him, you could always sleep with him but not have a relationship beyond that, hence not get recycled and have to go through the hell again.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 06:17:19 PM »

hithere,

That's what i thought you meant but just wanted to make sure.  My concern is that BPD's use sex as a tool to control so I'm afraid it's more of a tactic to try to reel me in more and hopefully back into a relationship.  Everything is so complicated and premeditated with my ex. 

My heart tells me to hang on and enjoy the time I'm having with him and be "friends with benefits" but my gut tells me to get out. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 10:15:26 AM »

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my gut tells me to get out. 

That is probably the best idea if you can.

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be "friends with benefits"

This is better than getting recycled.

I know my exBPD always had a plan and because her reality was so messed up it was hard to know what her end-game was.  I protected myself by moving out, signing a one year lease and working hard to realize no matter what I wished for, she was not going to change, hence I was never going back.  That helped me when I was dating her for a few months before she realized there was no chance to recycle and she moved on to her next victim. 

I am just saying,  be "friends with benefits" is worse for you than moving on but better for you than getting a full recycle and opening yourself up to hell again.

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 01:39:42 PM »

hithere,

I'm aiming for "moving on."  I just mailed off the last of the "gifts" he gave me.  I blocked my phone again.  I have refused to communicate with him even though he keeps coming at me.

This morning he sent me a text with just a period to indicate "THE END".  Hopefully, he is done but I have my doubts.  I feel he may try a few more attempts but I really hope I can resist getting suck in yet again.  This is getting exhausting!
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