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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2013, 01:50:34 PM »

Just wanted to add to the chorus of 'my ex wrote me the same text'!

In fact he wrote it many times... a couple of times with a torrent file attached so that I could watch a film 'when thinking of us with regret and pain' and 'understand what our relationship had been about' (because of course he understood far better than I could and I needed 'teaching' Smiling (click to insert in post))

Oh, the little scrap of 'kindness'- 'there is a beautiful person inside you'... . 'I know you have a good side. I loved that person'. The last is a quote from my ex's last message in which he told me he was being forced to cut me off forever, having taken and taken from me financially and emotionally for years, because I was just too f***ed up and dangerous for him and would continue to do damage to him 'again and again and again' (I had asked for £50 and a cardigan back  Smiling (click to insert in post) and told him I was depressed and down because we were drifting apart finally).

eerie, the 'you will not change me' message- I had that many times, along with shrill protestations of moral superiority- that's actually such an indicator of their fragility and how they feel swallowed up by emotions. How they need to obliterate the loved/hated object (us).
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2013, 10:47:22 PM »

Moonie just checking in but what's she mean by the lying, cheating and secrets?  

She says I'm very hard to read & it winds her up incredibly. She takes this to be being secretive.

She often gets totally paranoid about where I've been, where I am, who I've seen or spoken to on phone etc etc etc. Example, she'd text me stuff like "I'm going to pop in shortly so you better hide anything you don't want me to see" or sometimes it would be slightly different saying instead "I'll be there in 30 minutes so you got time to get whatever cheap slut is with you out of there before I arrive".

It was uncalmable & utterly maddening.

Cheating issue comes from a club I was in that included men AND WOMEN. She struggled with this immensely. The friends male & female in that club saw how unhealthy my relationship was for me & also knew of her triangulating (read definition) me with another guy last summer. They're good friends & didn't like what they witnessed her put me through & it's various stages of the cycle (I was honest with them about my home life). A lot of the men in that club didn't swarm round her like she's used to because of what they knew & she didn't like it. Equally the women were civil & polite (for my sake) but were never going to be any kinds of friends to her.

She turned this into sure fire evidence that something had gone on behind her back with me & a woman or women in the club! It was THE ONLY THING close to an explanation for her not getting a warm welcome whenever she turned up. She was convinced everybody knew something except her & their communal guilt of 'all knowing something she didn't' was reason for their lack of enthusiasm to include her!

It convinced her beyond reason that I'd been unfaithful & did untold amount of damage to us. It was cancerous & thoroughly draining. But above all, VERY upsetting for both of us.

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2013, 11:07:36 PM »

Another example. I'm drummer (hence nickname everybody knows me as) in a busy & popular band that works most weekends. Fri or sat but never both (so our significant others didn't lose their whole weekend with us). It's a balanced ethic that works well for all other band members relationships but you guessed it, NOT MINE!

If for example I was due to play a Saturday night she'd get more & more tense & sharp tongued as the day rolled on & would usually escalate to a row or rage in last hour before I had to leave home for gig.

Due to child commitments, geography of gigs & other factors, after I joined this band she didn't get to see us gig until i was about 8 months in. The first gig she attends the attractive blonde singer announces she's leaving to join another band. We (the rest of band) are stunned & also gutted. Girlfriend see's this as suspicious. PERFECT TIMING. On the way home ex concludes I'd f***ed the singer & on meeting my girlfriend she couldn't take the guilt and so she quit there & then on the night she met her.

That issue never got dropped either & always got thrown at me. "I can't accuse without proof which I don't have. But it doesn't mean I'm wrong!" My ears burn with how often I got hit with that!

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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2013, 11:23:28 PM »

Moonie, I hear you man. My experience was similar.

My ex would always accuse me of being vague, and it wound her up to the point of becoming physical with me.

When I met her, I was back in school to change career paths, and she would always push me to drop out of school because there were girls in it. I ignored her and went back to school. It drove her nuts. She forbade me to talk to any women, including saying hi. When I told her that it was impolite to ignore people, she wouldn't budge.

In one of my classes I was in a study group, and there was girl in the group, and my ex became convinced that I like her and/or have slept with her. Oh man, she would rage about it etc. etc.
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2013, 06:26:42 PM »

Moonie just checking in but what's she mean by the lying, cheating and secrets?  

She says I'm very hard to read & it winds her up incredibly. She takes this to be being secretive.

She often gets totally paranoid about where I've been, where I am, who I've seen or spoken to on phone etc etc etc. Example, she'd text me stuff like "I'm going to pop in shortly so you better hide anything you don't want me to see" or sometimes it would be slightly different saying instead "I'll be there in 30 minutes so you got time to get whatever cheap slut is with you out of there before I arrive".

It was uncalmable & utterly maddening.

Cheating issue comes from a club I was in that included men AND WOMEN. She struggled with this immensely. The friends male & female in that club saw how unhealthy my relationship was for me & also knew of her triangulating (read definition) me with another guy last summer. They're good friends & didn't like what they witnessed her put me through & it's various stages of the cycle (I was honest with them about my home life). A lot of the men in that club didn't swarm round her like she's used to because of what they knew & she didn't like it. Equally the women were civil & polite (for my sake) but were never going to be any kinds of friends to her.

She turned this into sure fire evidence that something had gone on behind her back with me & a woman or women in the club! It was THE ONLY THING close to an explanation for her not getting a warm welcome whenever she turned up. She was convinced everybody knew something except her & their communal guilt of 'all knowing something she didn't' was reason for their lack of enthusiasm to include her!

It convinced her beyond reason that I'd been unfaithful & did untold amount of damage to us. It was cancerous & thoroughly draining. But above all, VERY upsetting for both of us.

It is very upsetting for both parties.  And hugely exhausting.

Unfortunately part of the disorder can have moments of profound rejection and insecurities it tends to fuel paranoia like that.  It's a cascade effect.

There are a lot fears a person with BPD and its a hard balance to maintain trying to take care yourself/boundaries and not making these things worse too.  Its can be difficult for even the most committed. 

Insecurities like this don't go away miraculously either.  Each relationship will have insecurities not all like this - its the intensity of them and how they are handled.  Which kind of takes the fantasy off the table.  They can take a toll on relationships - not just the romantic ones.  Something to think about for the future.

Once you get past the newness and enamored parts you are dealing with the rest of life.  As these problems start to surface they tend to dull the once shiny parts.  Its a pretty enlightening lesson on what's worth it and how you want your life to be.  What you are willing to cope with.
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