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« on: October 20, 2013, 10:12:24 AM »

Today I sent my BPD wife a text saying "I miss You".

I broke the no contact rule.  I know. But if i were to be honest with her i would have written her this.

":)ear Dxxxx,

I miss the idealization stage of our relationship. I miss how you made me feel whole.

Due, to early childhood abandonment of my parents, i felt unlovable, undeserving of love. That if someone would know the real me, they would leave.  

So, i projected a happy, stable, people pleasing way about myself, to get by.

No one knew the baggage that i carried. No one new that i would turn to cigarettes, alcohol, porn, to self soothe.

I would stop smoking for a while, sometimes for up to a year, but in the mean time i would find other ways to soothe myself.

My addictions, would vary, at times i realized that my drinking would get worse to i would stop and move to porn, when porn no longer did the trick, i changed to more freaky porn to get the same high.

The one constant was that i was finding unhealthy additions to feel ok about myself.

When I found you, you were my world. I felt whole. I soothed myself by holding you. Caring for you. You were intoxicating.

With time, i started drinking, porn, smoking, because the mirrors we set up in the beginning of the relationship began to crumble and i felt alone and sad and felt the need to go back and self soothe.

You confronted me about it and i lied about it to hide my shame. I felt the need to hide because i was afraid for you to see the real me. You knew i was lying and stopped trusting me.

By the time i was healthy enough to be able to share this about myself with you. You were long gone. Trust was broken. In your black and white world, I was black.  I was not a human, with pain, who needed hugs, love, encouragement and understanding. I was just black.

Now that we are apart, I am in so much pain. I stopped the porn, but found myself drinking too much. I stopped the drinking. Now all that is left is cigarettes.

I really really need to stop smoking. As long as i soothe myself with an addition, I am buying into the crap that i am no good, and deserve to be alone.

I realize that I must make myself whole by living a balanced life, a healthy life, a life where i am proud of me. No one else, not even a loving wife,can do this for me. Healing must come from inside of me.

I prayed in synagogue for god to take away my pain of loneliness. I smiled when it hit me that i was talking to a higher power that never abandoned me, who has been there all along, that cares about me, that wants me to be whole. I prayed that he help me. I make a deal with him. I will do my part, i will keep him in my life and work on me, and he will have to take care of the rest of all the fears and worries that i have.

I have read a lot about why i fell in love with a BPD wife. I now know that the joy i felt when i started my relationship (that feeling of wholeness) is there for me to achieve by making myself whole. I want to be whole so badly.

In truth, Although i grasp it mentally, i do not truly feel it in my heart. It is more like a hope, a prayer, a road that i must take and have faith.

I am 42 and i am crying as i write this. I wasted so many years, i have lived with so much pain over the years. i cry for myself.

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 11:25:00 AM »

Samthewiss,

Without intention, you have touched my soul. So deeply, I question if there is a higher power. I just broke my no contact rule yesterday with an I miss you text to my xBPDh. Although he never responded. I'm devastated to think we might never speak again.

Yesterday, I was reading more about my transference of my childhood into our relationship. I am sad I didn't understand this earlier. Although I have not forgiven him for all the pain and hurt driven from his side, I still cry every day missing our love and got on this message board today to feel some solace.

Your letter was like reading my letter to my ex with his response all in one. I suffered raising the kids on my own and experienced so much pain while he battled with his addictions especially with porn and lost trust with his lies hiding it. Yet, I know we were both wounded people coming together to face our issues. Now, I am accepting the harsh reality that I have to heal my wounds alone.

I don't know what compelled you to write this but was a heavenly gift for me. I will reread multiple times to help me heal.

Thank you from my heart. I wish you all the hope you need, healing and to be whole.  
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 12:20:17 PM »

Thank you for your kind reply.

It helps to know that my struggle is a human one. One shared by others who entered relationships not being whole, but felt whole with a BPD spouse.

I read a great post that really helped me understand what was really happening in the relationship. I included it at the end of my post.

I had to read it 10 times to fully grasp it.    

You write

"Yet, I know we were both wounded people coming together to face our issues. Now, I am accepting the harsh reality that I have to heal my wounds alone."

I have come to realize that my BPD wife and I are both wounded. I wish she has the same drive to work on herself. But wishing it does not make it so.

I don't know how i can forgive her for cheating on me. Telling people terrible things about me.

I have reached a point. (just this weekend) that if i work on myself, make myself whole, i can reach the happiness i had with my wife, but this time it will be real.

I too struggle with the notion of a higher power. But it helps me when i feel alone. It might help to substitute the word "god" for "a higher power",  a kind of force of nature, that forces us to be balanced.

I am glad my insight has brought you some comfort, your reply did the same for me.


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In some relationships, the idealization phase is the partner being in lonely child stance and the Borderline being in abandoned child stance.*Both need saving* Both need attachment to stave off the pain of being alone.  This is one type of bonding seen in this community.

In this bond, both people bring core trauma to the relationship. Mirroring reenacts the earliest childhood experiences to rise up and emerge into consciousness.

In idealization, there is a dual identification and projection for both people that they have found a perfect love- however, one partner (the “lonely child”) does not yet realize that the other partner (the abandoned child= Borderline) has no whole self- and is utilizing a fantasy of a part-time good in order to fuse with the partner's part time good and become one.

The lonely child has spent much of their life becoming “one.”  When a lonely child finds an abandoned child, both parties feel needed. However, rather than truly loving the individuality of both parties- the sad, fantasy aspect of mirroring magnifies the unhealthy *needs* of both people.

When the lonely child begins to question the reality of mirroring (reality testing) this raises core traumas into activation concerning both the questioning (uncertainty) and the hope (unfulfilled expectations) of the unrealistic attachment. "Lack of inherent trust" is found in both parties at this stage.

Reality testing causes the lonely child to pull away because certain things don't add up- as you say, "the idealization phase slowly erodes."

Pulling away, even while in the lap of comfortable luxury- triggers the abandoned child issues of the Borderline. This causes panic reactions of clinging behaviors by the Borderline to prevent the retreat of their desired love object. These immature demands can look like entitlement to others, especially to a lonely child, who has learned early on to be self sufficient and to self soothe- but the entitlement markers are highly charged and emotional to a Borderline, which isn’t Narcissistic grandiosity- it’s ego deficiency and panic.

The entitlement phase brings a hidden "angry and aggressive child" out from hibernation and into full view and this usually occurs when the lonely child least expects it.  The angry child that emerges is pissed and has delusions of persecution that are ideas of reference from earlier childhood trauma. It’s at this point that the angry child (Borderline) will become enraged and try to cast off shame.  They may attempt to harm himself/herself in order to scapegoat the lonely child- who unwittingly stands-in for the earliest attachment.  This triggers the lonely child's trauma from their earliest attachment as well.

The Borderline wants so badly to be whole that they demand that the lonely child create wholeness for them- which the partner succeeds in doing early on but then relaxes. The Borderline temper tantrum, with its ideas of reference being so very childlike and fantastic, perceives the relaxation of the partner as though the attachment is split up. In order to cope, the Borderline must now find another part time perceived good object to self medicate the emotions of feeling badly from the split.  If this cannot be accomplished, the surge of limbic fear concerning anger and abandonment causes such great pain that self harm is often inflicted for relief.

The lonely child is often very surprised by this. The anger and dysregulation are in contrast to what he/she perceives are necessary for the circumstances. (The lonely child fails to see need disguised as "love."  Therefore, the lonely child seeks to understand the Borderlines ideas of reference concerning "love" in order to cope with the neediness and begins a line of questioning.  The Borderline retreats.

Lonely child is "understanding driven" and gets drawn into the Borderline acting out. The lonely child now has a mystery- the Borderline dilemma of "who am I?" This is very likely the same way that the lonely child came into existence as an “understanding driven” child. Especially when he questioned the motives of his earliest attachments during infancy and adolescence.

The lonely child *understands* the need to be held, loved and understood – because that’s what he longs for in others. The lonely child feels that in order to deal with acting out of the Borderline- the lonely child must project the aura of grace, compassion and understanding upon the Borderline and also guide, teach and show the way- because after all, that’s what the lonely child would want someone to do for him. There was a large reason that the initial mirroring (of this fixer /rescuer ego) worked so well in the idealization stage- the relationship really WAS the projection of lonely child that was mirrored, not the deficient ego of the Borderline.

In the "upside down" world of the Borderline, the lonely child is the perfect attachment to fuse to and the hypersensitive Borderline is the perfect mystery for the lonely child to try to understand.  This is the reactivation of a childhood dynamic- that forms a needy bond.

The Borderline is a perfect template with which to Header and identify with as a good object and also one to invest in to feel better about the “self.”

The understanding driven lonely child "imagines" (projects) onto the Borderline what he/she feels the Borderline identifies with. The lonely child often fills in the blanks with projective identification and the Borderline attempts to absorbs this- but it's impossible to appear as a self-directed person while taking cues and mirroring another self directed partner.

The Borderline scrambles to keep up with what is projected in a chameleon like manner.  All of this pressure to adapt and conform to the projection smothers and defeats the Borderline’s yearning for a perfect bond and triggers engulfment failure.  

Engulfment also means loss of control, annihilation fantasies and shame.  Shame activates the punitive parent that resides in their inner world, their psyche. The attachment failure has now become shame based for the Borderline.  It will soon become guilt driven for the lonely child partner.

Engulfment makes Borderlines very frustrated and angry- but Borderlines fear abandonment and choose to stuff away their fear and compulsively attempt to manage their pain. The impulsive gestures are a form of self harm that fixes the bond in a permanent chaos of action/reaction.  

Borderlines can be avoidant and passive aggressive and will do everything in their power to hide their strong emotions until they implode.  They swing wildly from abandoned child to angry child until they deflate into detached protector- who is basically a mute that doesn’t speak- or worse, speaks in word salad when confronted.

The swinging dysregulation pattern is unable to be separated and individuated and self directed. Because it cannot be self directed, it cannot be self soothed. There is no ability to defer these emotions to logic and reasoning with introspection *without* another person to blame.  This is where Borderlines are showing you the maturity stage at which they are developmentally arrested and remain stuck and frightened.

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Devaluing is the BPD going into the punitive parent role to switch up the control ~ control was relinquished in the idealisation phase so we will attach. The further along we get in the rs ~ the BPD then feels like we are the persecutor for their failing part time self ~ devalue. Devaluing is more about projection ~ because there failing self makes them feel woeful, scared, fearful.

We all have punitive parents that exist in our heads. This is our Superego.  The criticism felt by both parties exists as guilt and shame inside our heads. This tape plays over and over and is a re-working of former traumas. It is also a huge part of what makes complementary traumas so attractive as binding agents to each other.  The lonely child has the “tyrannical shoulds” while the abandoned child has defectiveness schema- together they interact and drive each other crazy.

The understanding driven child cannot fathom how another human being does not have a “self.”  The understanding driven child has had much childhood experience with strong selves and has created a self to understand the motives of others. Lonely children have a need to have some sort of control over their destiny because so much was out of control in their childhood.

The Borderline’s idea of destiny is being attached to others for protection. The Borderline cannot fathom what it means to have a stand alone “self.”

Both parties are human “doing” for others rather than being- but there is more impulsivity in Borderline in the “offering” of themselves as objects.  (The lonely child is very particular concerning who he gives his heart to and makes decisions based upon careful consideration.)

The failure to find a healthy mature love activates the punitive parent in both people’s psyche- one for persecution and the other for failure to understand others (cloaked in rescuing behaviors)- this is the “flea” of each others psychiatric trauma that really is a very strong obsessive bond, and one of endless victimization for both parties unless one or the other becomes understanding driven toward self direction.  Guess who has the best chance?  Unfortunately, the mirrored good that the Borderline provided was a very strong drug- and the obsession is outwardly projected (as it always has been) by the lonely child in order to understand and consequently, control it.

It’s at this point that spying, engaging in testing and push/pull behaviors occur as both parties fight for control. Each pours salt in the others core wound.

The understanding driven child tries to understand the Borderline and the Borderline feels misunderstood and persecuted. The understanding driven child retreats to repair their ego and the Borderline lashes out and tries to shame him. The pendulum swings back and forth in clinging and hating and disordered thought and chaos.  

The lonely child tries to uncover what they think the Borderline is hiding from them (triggering bouts of paranoia) or missing (creating dependency issues.)  The angry child threatens to destroy the relationship (as well as themselves = self harm) which triggers immense anger and outrage for both parties. Their love object is broken.

Both parties are in pain- and their egos are easy to "pinch" because they both fear abandonment.   At this point, both core traumas are exposed and the partners are no longer interacting with each other except to arouse each other’s trauma wounds from childhood.

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 12:20:59 PM »

second half of earlier post

The false self of the lonely child, that the Borderline mirrored, has more ego- as it is directly tied to a “self” which involves coping mechanisms from childhood that mirrored back good.  It was a self that was capable and seeming to have all the answers in the beginning.  When the Borderline tries to destroy it as a failed attachment, it begins to crumble and the lonely child retreats and tries to repair it- essentially wounded to the core. This is also part and parcel of the injury of the smear campaign- and the lonely child may try to return to defend the "self" from being attacked.

Trauma for the lonely child occurs mainly because of perceived failure they cannot “understand” enough (essentially an obsession at this point) and trauma for the Borderline occurs because of anger and abandonment and shame that existed since infancy- and persecution by their inner parent superego for not becoming whole.  

At this point, both parties feel like failures.

Unfortunately, the repair for the lonely child’s self consists of trying again to fix the Borderline "mirror" to reflect the good.  Many attempts will be made by the lonely child (once again) to effect an outcome other than the failed attachment.  The lonely child will try to re-build the self and get the love object (Borderline) to return and resume their compliant mirroring.

Eventually, the fantasy begins to unravel for the lonely child, that they are alone- and the person that the lonely child fell in love with, (the person in the mirror,) was actually YOU.

Who really is the Borderline? Someone who needed you for awhile because they were scared to be alone.

They’re still scared. Forgive them if you can- they are modern day recreations of their own childhood fears.

Now- after reading all of this- You can’t keep going back for more trauma.  Thought The trauma bond must be broken.

After we've let fantasy go- we can turn the focus to healing.  It's good to wonder what our attraction must have been to this person. Whatever clues you have are generally good enough to give you reason that you’ve had experience with this type of personality before- perhaps within your family of origin.

Stop yourself from thinking that you’ve never been treated so poorly before this relationship. When you catch yourself saying you can't believe it. Stop and think. Chances are- you’ve just chosen to repress a few circumstances from childhood that were traumatic. Now the feelings are back on the surface and you’re going to have to address them.

Introspection involves a great pain. Let those feelings come up. Journal your thoughts when you feel anxious. Learn about yourself. We must address the pain from our childhood that has been left unresolved for too long. We cannot escape from pain if we are to have personal growth- and you've got to get this relationship out of the way in order to get at the real hurt.

Radical acceptance comes when you realize that what was mirrored really wasn’t you- it was what *you wanted others to give to you*   It was <<Understanding.>>

Try to give that to yourself.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013, 01:15:06 PM »

OH my goodness.

Oh, that explains it so well.


Oh, it makes such sense - I am indeed "understanding-driven" and this has helped me so much... .

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 01:32:56 PM »

I know!

I had to read it several times to fully get it.

It felt like i was reading the progression of MY relationship.

I am the  "lonely child - understanding-driven" one in the relationship.

The part that made me most hopeful / happy was when i learn't that the wonderful feelings i felt were because i was feeling "whole".



I now realize that i can get that feeling back! It is not lost with the end of my BPD relationship.

By working on myself to feel whole, I will have that Happiness without it depending on my BPD wife.


I am not there yet. But at least i know what road to take.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013, 01:34:08 PM »

Samthewiss, thank you for copying this post. Wow, is all I can say. I just bawled when reading YOU in all caps.

I cry for my ex, the forever scared child. I cry for my child who tried so hard to survive and my adult self, knowing I had to endure SO much to find out I love me. I cry for my broken relationship and dreams. I cry for my parents who weren't whole. I cry for my children and what they've endured.

It's no wonder why I keep crying.

Thank you again.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013, 01:51:08 PM »

"Eventually, the fantasy begins to unravel for the lonely child, that they are alone- and the person that the lonely child fell in love with, (the person in the mirror,) was actually YOU."

It blows me a way too. I cried too.

I so wish I can share what i learn't with my BPD wife.

Hoping she will "see the light" want to get help and not go through with the divorce.

But i know that is me just trying AGAIN to save a marriage (preposition the mirror) that cannot be saved.

I have to stand by and watch the woman i love so much, end our relationship with me. 

Knowing, what lies ahead in her next relationship.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2013, 02:16:29 PM »

I so wish I can share what i learn't with my BPD wife. Hoping she will "see the light" want to get help and not go through with the divorce.

I hear you. I wait for a call from my exBPDh "I've been in therapy for a while. As I continue to progress, would you like to date slowly and see if we can rebuild our relationship?".

Yet, I also realize my last major hurdle (I hope?) is facing my fear of rejection, being alone and all that comes with it. Unfortunately, I see now that being alone and experiencing the rejection is required for me to go through. If your post was right, what I am reaching for ultimately is understanding (which makes logical sense). Until this happens, it is best if I don't get the call.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2013, 02:45:43 PM »

Eventually, the fantasy begins to unravel for the lonely child, that they are alone- and the person that the lonely child fell in love with, (the person in the mirror,) was actually YOU.


This This article really hit home... especially the quote above... .I have always had so much self hate... .so to hear that you fell in love with YOU... .really helped. .I'm really trying to work on me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2013, 11:50:06 PM »

In some relationships, the idealization phase is the partner being in lonely child stance and the Borderline being in abandoned child stance.*Both need saving* Both need attachment to stave off the pain of being alone.  This is one type of bonding seen in this community.

does anyone know if there's any discussions about OTHER "types of bonding seen in this community"?   such as, what would the breakdown of a r/s w/2 pwBPD look like?

fascinating.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 01:41:59 AM »

I cry for my ex, the forever scared child. I cry for my child who tried so hard to survive and my adult self, knowing I had to endure SO much to find out I love me. I cry for my broken relationship and dreams. I cry for my parents who weren't whole. I cry for my children and what they've endured.

It's no wonder why I keep crying.


I can completely relate only couldn't have said it so well. Thank you
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 04:54:43 AM »

Who really is the Borderline? Someone who needed you for awhile because they were scared to be alone.

They’re still scared. Forgive them if you can- they are modern day recreations of their own childhood fears.

Now- after reading all of this- You can’t keep going back for more trauma.  Thought The trauma bond must be broken.

After we've let fantasy go- we can turn the focus to healing.  It's good to wonder what our attraction must have been to this person. Whatever clues you have are generally good enough to give you reason that you’ve had experience with this type of personality before- perhaps within your family of origin.

Stop yourself from thinking that you’ve never been treated so poorly before this relationship. When you catch yourself saying you can't believe it. Stop and think. Chances are- you’ve just chosen to repress a few circumstances from childhood that were traumatic. Now the feelings are back on the surface and you’re going to have to address them.

Introspection involves a great pain. Let those feelings come up. Journal your thoughts when you feel anxious. Learn about yourself. We must address the pain from our childhood that has been left unresolved for too long. We cannot escape from pain if we are to have personal growth- and you've got to get this relationship out of the way in order to get at the real hurt.

Radical acceptance comes when you realize that what was mirrored really wasn’t you- it was what *you wanted others to give to you*   It was <<Understanding.>>

Try to give that to yourself.

Thank you for reposting this sam.

I have been reading 2010's posts whenever I get time. They explain so much.

I have been making a lot of progress in detaching from by wife as we go through the process of separation. But now she is getting scared again and wants to stay together and "fix" us. Needed to reread this to remind me that I am making the right choice. I need to heal myself so I can be a great dad to my two beautiful boys. My wife's journey is her own, I can only hope that there is happiness at the end of it for her too.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 07:38:08 AM »

Wow - this whole thread just blew my mind. 

Sam - your first post was like reading about myself.  The cigarettes, the alcohol, the porn... .all just self soothing addictions.

Thank you for posting this and being so open and honest.  I'm in the process of filing for divorce from my uBPDw and this just made a rough Monday morning so much more tolerable. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 09:09:57 AM »

That long quote is helping me more and more, the more I re-read it.

I've been wrestling with the conviction that my Replacement is "perfect" and I am all that is not perfect... .

But now I read this, it makes it clear to me that the only thing that is "perfect" is the combination of my own damage from childhood, and my ex-bf's damage from childhood making us in combination "the perfect storm".

Somehow that makes it a LOT easier to accept and feel ok about.

There wasn't a thing in that long quote that wasn't part of our 15 month pattern of behaviour, his AND mine. Not a thing. And my T agrees (I emailed it to him).

Which makes me feel that, once we entered into a relationship, neither of us had the self-awareness to have behaved in ANY OTHER WAY but how it played out. We would ALWAYS have hurt each other this much, no matter how many times we tried to make it work.

Now I have some self-awareness, and can gain more and more, so that I never end up in a similar situation of inevitable hurt.

My ex, poor tormented soul, can only watch in bewildered horror as he repeats it again and again... .
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 10:07:09 AM »

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I would add that since you are working on yourself, on a healthy road, your happiness will return, but this time it would not be dependent on your BPD partner loving you.

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I am glad i was of help. Keep reading and writing. It helps me alot.

Adad:

I ( i think most in our situation) want our BPD back. Just not the crazy side. The beginning stage was intoxicating because we felt "whole".

I am in this crazy state of experiancing conflicted feelings.

One one hand, I idealize her and want her back so badly. On the other hand, logically, she is ill and will only send pain my way.

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 02:28:20 PM »

samthewiss,

Great thread. Just read your story -- so sorry to hear that you're going through this, but really admire your willingness to look deep and be honest with yourself. You're making fast progress.

Glad you found these boards, and thank you for sharing. I, too, echo the comments of others here, in recognizing my role as the lonely child in my r-ship with my ex. I see it strongest right here:

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The understanding driven lonely child "imagines" (projects) onto the Borderline what he/she feels the Borderline identifies with. The lonely child often fills in the blanks with projective identification and the Borderline attempts to absorbs this- but it's impossible to appear as a self-directed person while taking cues and mirroring another self directed partner.

The Borderline scrambles to keep up with what is projected in a chameleon like manner.  All of this pressure to adapt and conform to the projection smothers and defeats the Borderline’s yearning for a perfect bond and triggers engulfment failure. 

Engulfment also means loss of control, annihilation fantasies and shame.  Shame activates the punitive parent that resides in their inner world, their psyche. The attachment failure has now become shame based for the Borderline.  It will soon become guilt driven for the lonely child partner.

Engulfment makes Borderlines very frustrated and angry- but Borderlines fear abandonment and choose to stuff away their fear and compulsively attempt to manage their pain. The impulsive gestures are a form of self harm that fixes the bond in a permanent chaos of action/reaction. 

Borderlines can be avoidant and passive aggressive and will do everything in their power to hide their strong emotions until they implode.  They swing wildly from abandoned child to angry child until they deflate into detached protector- who is basically a mute that doesn’t speak- or worse, speaks in word salad when confronted.

The swinging dysregulation pattern is unable to be separated and individuated and self directed. Because it cannot be self directed, it cannot be self soothed. There is no ability to defer these emotions to logic and reasoning with introspection *without* another person to blame.  This is where Borderlines are showing you the maturity stage at which they are developmentally arrested and remain stuck and frightened.

That template was clearly in action in my r-ship. Like you, I wish I could just send this to my ex, and wish she would be able to receive it in the spirit in which it would be sent -- one of seeking reconciliation and understanding. But I'm afraid I know it would serve only to unleash another torrent of hate-speak -- the dams would be opened again and the black paint would only flow more thickly. I don't need that.

My r-ship was also 2 yrs long. Fortunately, we weren't living together or married. It takes a while, but it gets better.

Hang in there.

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 05:22:01 PM »

Hi Sam,

Totally understand how you feel.

As time passes,you shall definitely feel better because you are already on the path of recovery.Hang in there,the pain shall subside.

Thanks a ton for that post,it summed up my relationship with ex-BPD and was incredibly enlightening.
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