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« on: December 13, 2013, 11:26:48 AM »

My story was on the boards over the summer. To cut it short my ex who lived in another country in Europe after I kicked him out of my house eventually for his unreasonable demands, tantrums, jealousy and total refusal to contribute financially, kept saying that he 'didnt' want a relationship' but that he still loved me and like a fool I kept travelling to see him and paying for him to come to see me.

In May on a visit I paid for him to make ( why why why?) I got accidentally pregnant. He had been behaving bizarrely and sending weird emails and texts, alternately obsessing about threesomes with me, accusing me of infidelity (total projection!) and apologising for having 'made me feel worse' and saying things like 'it is my priority to fix things between us'. Caught in the BPD spiral and my own depression and slipped into terrible despair and loneliness. I am a single parent who was on her own at the time trying to write an academic book (still unwritten!) 5 days before I found out I was pregnant I told him I felt despair and that things were over between us. He then sent a number of angry abusive texts calling me a psycho and saying that he would never speak to me again.

He was good to his word until late August. In the meantime I told him of the pregnancy and he ignored me except to send one text on the day of my abortion saying 'you have damaged me deeply whether you admit it or not. My nights and days are filled with the terrible things you have said and done'.

I found out via facebook in September that he had been seeing another woman since the end of April. In fact- as I extracted from him when we met briefly in September- he had MOVED IN with her at the exact point he dumped me. He had also assumed that I was 'making up' the pregnancy or conversely that I would keep the baby 'to punish him'. 

He moved out of her house in mid August and began contacting me afterwards with vague references to explanations etc and telling me he had 'gone out with a girl' after he dumped me- this was of course lies.

When I found out I received a torrent of tears, rage and abuse. He accused me of having 'corrupted him' (we had a stormy relationship, in my opinion because of his issues, but of course mine contribute, I am hardly perfect and we had a rocky start too.) He said that before he met me he was innocent and could never have lied, that I had abused him for three years (in fact he lived off me and extracted money from me for much of that; the 'abuse' seems to have been our arguments and the times I ended the relationship because I just couldn't take any more insanity, demands and crazy jealousy).

He has been texting and calling ever since. Some of the texts have been apologies and confessions of inadequacy, that he is a piece of hit, a liar, that he knows it is all his fault and I will not forgive him; some excuses that he lost three months of his life and does not know what happened, that he was too stoned to know what he was doing (?), that he never fancied or wanted the other woman  Laugh out loud (click to insert in post), that he always loved me, that he will love me for a long time and I am the love of his life, that I know I love him and can't we try again, he has changed, he will never do it again, he lost his 'persona' and I will see if I will only agree to meet him, that he is different now. Alternately, that I am a bhit who corrupted him, a whore (I did have a one night stand early in the relationship when I thought I was going to leave him; this was totally wrong and I have admitted it and apologised many times. I should have just left for good), an abuser who caused the whole situation by 'destroying him for three years', a materialist who 'only cares about money' (I paid for everything including luxury holidays, etc), 'completely mad', a person 'to whom life means nothing', etc etc. Sometimes all those attitudes in the same day!

The insanity is obvious yet somehow I still miss him. I know I must never see him again and luckily this is easy. I know that I should also cut him off in every way and that is harder. I got so used to the insanity every day and in there somewhere is a lost little boy whom I care for deeply.

After three months of not seeing him the love, jealousy, humiliation and that weird grief stricken craving for him are really dying down. Finding out about the affair and realising what a total piece of crap he had really been kind of helped me move on, furious though I was. Before that, being depressed and with low self esteem I believed somehow what he said, that I was a bhit and it was all my fault.

I am trying to move on to another relationship but feel like damaged goods. I feel unable to give myself to my new boyfriend fully and am not sure if I am just taking refuge in the new relationship. Plus it is so much less intense than with uBPD ex, I feel as if he doesn't like me all that much!1 And I guess that may be true but I can't know for sure. My thinking and emotional responses are so weirdly and distortedly conditioned now!

Anyway I wanted to share this story as it shows the horrible persistence of some BPD relationships. How they get hooks of pity etc in you even for a person who has treated you like less than trash.

I am so sad, to think that the person who seemed to and still claims to love me soo much, was a sort of mirage. A broken piece of someone. It is tragic  :'( I really did love him. But I don't think I do any more.

Love to all. xxx
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 11:44:24 AM »

Sorry should add re the opening line of this post- the recent excuses for contact have been pure BPD but have also upset me very much...

1, pictures of himself on a hospital bed having had two big moles removed which are being checked for skin cancer. Lots of dramatic stuff about 'I might be dead soon', 'I am dealing with cancer', angry stuff about how I don't care for him etc etc

2. recent suicide threats. Yesterday howling down the phone when I told him for nth time that I may be friends with him one day but we are not together and never will be. Raging at me that I don't care if he dies, I am 'wishing him dead' etc.

I am so worried for him.  Yet today he snaps out of it and is texting me 'hi darling how was your lecture Smiling (click to insert in post)' He is just too insane isn't he. We can't be friends and I have to cut this dead. But I FEEL SO BAD AND GUILTY FOR THAT!
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 02:34:18 PM »

He's not going to commit suicide. He's just trying to manipulate you. Don't fall for it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 11:05:39 AM »

Yes I know he won't nor has he got cancer, very probably!

It is all so textbook isn't it  But I loved this person. And somehow I cannot shake this horrible GUILT that I should do something to help him, save him.

Why do I  still care after the truly horrible way he has devalued and degraded me... .what's wrong with ME? Don't answer that :D

I guess in 6 months (or weeks!) he will be moving onto the next person and giving them all the hell and guilt instead.

The sad thing for him is I think he did love me. AS much as such a disordered person can. And he has totally lost me because he trashed me so thoroughly.

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2013, 11:37:41 AM »

It's hard not to care about people that gets close to you.

Since he has been hospitalized he is getting professional help for cancer checkup. I take that as I sign that he is able to take care of himself. Maybe that will help you to let go of feeling responsible.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 06:03:18 PM »

hi, i can hear the distress you are in.   

first, the advice my counselor gave me was if my xBPDgf contacted me again threatening suicide, i was to dial 911 immediately.  suicide threats are not to be taken lightly ~ you might save someones life by calling 911.  conversely, if it pisses them off b/c they were just trying to manipulate you, well then they get the message and won't try that with YOU again.  either way it's a win/win.

second, if you want the crazy texts and phone calls to stop, get a new phone number.   if you want the emails to stop, get a new email addy.  it's amazingly effective.

best wishes
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 07:34:25 AM »

Hi Delusional.

    I know you want to "save" that is the problem we all got ourselves into.

They really don't want to be saved. This push pull dynamic is part of their disorder. They want what they want at that moment and it changes constantly.

I am trying NOT to see my ex anywhere and we are in some of the same circles. She has a replacement and has cut me out completely.

Just hang in there. I think it is good you have had some distance from him to gain clarity. Keep it up.

If he is going to kill himself he will kill himself. I do believe it is for attention but he is not your concern anymore. You owe him nothing but you owe yourself everything.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 04:31:44 PM »

Hi Earthangel. I've read your posts. Your ex sounds a similar level of abusive to mine!

He has had a replacement from April until August but he wasn't happy with her because (his words) 'she assumed she was my girlfriend and I never said  she  was... .she wanted things from me' ! (He moved in with this woman! who sounds like even more of a victim than I was... .how do these people do it? Do they have a sort of pheromone induced Jedi mind control ability?  Laugh out loud (click to insert in post))

He now seems to think that because I tried to forgive and be friends with him even after all this horrible abuse and his lying to me for months on end and abandoning me pregnant and the rest... .that I still love him and want to come back to him. Or if I really don't... .he will kill himself/die.

If he really loved me none of this would have happened, I know that. I don't love him any more and the obsessive desire I felt for him has faded with time. But I still care about him. God knows that dies last of all.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 05:08:42 PM »

 Delusional,

     I think it's funny their relationships seem to crumble around 3-4 months.  Mine seemed to only go that long before things started getting bad. 

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 10:55:29 AM »

Delusional,

     I think it's funny their relationships seem to crumble around 3-4 months.  Mine seemed to only go that long before things started getting bad. 

i thought this was interesting ~ 4 months, 6 months... .same ballpark.   i've seen this reference before but can't find the original source:

www.psychforums.com/borderline-personality/topic46183-20.html

"As I have reported on several other threads, a therapist who has treated many BPD couples says that BPD relationships typically last either 18 months or 15 years. They last 18 months, he explains, when the Non has strong personal boundaries. The Non enjoys the 6 month honeymoon period of mirroring and then is willing to spend up to a year trying to reestablish the honeymoon conditions. Then he bails.

The relationship lasts 15 years, he explains, when the Non has strong codependency traits and thus has low personal boundaries. Such a Non typically never bails. Instead, the BPD leaves him because, as the years go by, she becomes increasingly resentful of his inability to make her happy or fix her. Also, she may become increasingly fearful of abandonment. This explanation struck a strong chord with me because my relationship lasted 15 years."
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 11:43:25 AM »

uc, I was with uBPDex for 3 years with constant breakups (mostly initiated by me as I just could not deal with the craziness, abuse and demands- but I adored him sexually and emotionally and would take him back when he cried and yelled down the phone).

By the end I was literally a wreck. I aged about10 years physically and have sort of de-aged a bit since I stopped seeing him! I think the life was really just draining out of me.

By the end we were 'friends and soulmates' only (according to him). He accused me constantly of infidelity and swore blind to me many times that he was not seeing anyone else. This he did several times on our last week together in May.

He had met his new girlfriend (the one who was 'never his girlfriend just a friend' whom he slept with and moved in with... .yeah right  Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)) on April 23. I found out from facebook and pieced it together from the date he stopped emailing and texting me so much. I think BPDs do have a kind of guilt... .some of them. But this was soon projected on to me. It all became my fault. I had corrupted him... .he was just trying to 'move on from the pain'... it was 'kinder to me not to tell me he had met someone else'... .it was kinder to cut me dead and ignore that I was pregnant.

I feel so ashamed for ever loving this excuse for a person. I know I've got to get real and take care of myself. Because I did not protect myself from this toxic man for too long.
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