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TakingWingAtLast
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« on: December 30, 2013, 02:29:08 PM »

I got this series of text messages today:

Help!  

ExpwBPDgf  latest texts:



You're trying to buy D13 (her daughter that didn't even get to say goodbye to) back... .do you not understand how she feels about you? She will never trust you just like I will never trust you. You lied and lied and lied to me. Stop trying to hurt her!

Unlike you I do not post my life on FB.

I don't friend people I don't know


Then she sent a photo if her and one of the new replacements.

(Presumably a replacement)



Please stop hurting me by going behind my back and canceling the JCC membership and the temple membership even though we had decided to stay on it together to save money. If you stop hurting me; I will stop hurting you


I sent D13 A letter that said how much I missed her. And I wished her a happy Hanukkah. And I gave her the exact same amount of money I gave her brother.  

I also made it very clear that she was not responsible for her Mom and me. And I sent the letter to her Dad so that he could read it first.  I did my best to be as noncontroversial as I could.

The good news is that my anger is now back in full. Insert foul expletive.  her.

As much as this hurt, it was a good thing to make me see again how crazy it has been.

D
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 03:07:48 PM »

Sorry to hear this hun ... how horrible.

The stranger comment (ppl I don't know) jumped out at me because the day after I was dumped my ex pulled the same line "I have no idea who you really are, you could have been lying about everything for the past year" ... I was completely stunned ...

Try to find that anger and hold onto it - remind yourself why you are angry and tell yourself you deserve to be ... NOT being angry is self-destructive sometimes.

Like you, I really struggle with anger - it's rare and fleeting. But I am trying to get angry over all of this because, I deserve to be as well.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 07:41:08 PM »

Sounds familiar.

The BPD script never changes.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 07:52:53 PM »

My anger is what saved me, it was the buried voice of sanity inside me screaming to be heard.

Welcome your anger and use it.  Being extra pissed off for long periods of time can be exhausting, but try and use it in productive ways and you'll benefit later.  Don't do anything you'll regret.

Anger is a great tool to use against all the mindfcks going on, mostly between our ears; we obviously have mixed feelings or we wouldn't have stuck around as long as we did, but the anger created a singular focus for me, all I wanted to do was kill the fcking btch, and that lasted long enough for me to break free and begin healing.

Use it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 11:50:20 PM »

My anger is what saved me, it was the buried voice of sanity inside me screaming to be heard.

Welcome your anger and use it.  Being extra pissed off for long periods of time can be exhausting, but try and use it in productive ways and you'll benefit later.  Don't do anything you'll regret.

Anger is a great tool to use against all the mindfcks going on, mostly between our ears; we obviously have mixed feelings or we wouldn't have stuck around as long as we did, but the anger created a singular focus for me, all I wanted to do was kill the fcking btch, and that lasted long enough for me to break free and begin healing.

Use it.

Absolutely spot on From Heel to Heal.   I was glad to have some of it back as I don't keep anger well.  I've always let it go.   This is the one silver lining about LC over NC, it can help keep good anger around so that you can use it to break free and heal.

And YES, Santa, the script truly doesn't change.  It's really remarkable how similar our stories are, isn't it?   

And DC, you are the best girl!   And you're right, NOT being angry can be self-destructive!  Good advice!   we'll both have to remember.  And if you don't I'm going to come kick your a$$ myself!

Thanks to all of you for great advise and support.  I know I've said it a million times already.  It's most appreciated!

I have come quite a ways since Nov. 9 the day I became freed physically!

D

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 05:19:23 AM »

Wow TakingWing,

I am sorry you had to get those text messages.   The part that jumped out at me was:

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If you stop hurting me; I will stop hurting you

Hello?   What?  There is that magical thinking, seeing their emotions as being caused by others or by events outside themselves, with no belief they have any control over their emotions.    Sheesh.   

I got that all the time from my EX.  How I hated it.  I tied myself up like a pretzel to be/do what she wanted.  This was before I knew about BPD and didn't understand that Everything hurt her.

What a sucky thing to say to another human being.     How disordered.

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 09:31:28 AM »

Wow TakingWing,

I am sorry you had to get those text messages.   The part that jumped out at me was:

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If you stop hurting me; I will stop hurting you

Hello?   What?  There is that magical thinking, seeing their emotions as being caused by others or by events outside themselves, with no belief they have any control over their emotions.    Sheesh.   

I got that all the time from my EX.  How I hated it.  I tied myself up like a pretzel to be/do what she wanted.  This was before I knew about BPD and didn't understand that Everything hurt her.

What a sucky thing to say to another human being.     How disordered.

Exactly!   And that's why I stay Limited contact.  So I can see the disorder happen in black and white right before my very eyes.  The text just the day before was saying that she was a bit down for the holidays.  It's now so obvious!

And also so sad too.   It truly is disordered and irrational.   It must be awful to be pwBPD!   And she is also bipolar!

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 09:43:13 AM »

Fromheel

What did you make to become so angry? I felt very stupid and then I was so angry with myself and still I am.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 10:26:18 AM »

What did you make to become so angry? I felt very stupid and then I was so angry with myself and still I am.

Hi Pearl-

I don't really understand your question, but I think I know what you mean.

I let my borderline ex get away with a lot of disrespectful, condescending, belittling, emasculating comments, mostly because I was shocked, because she was very sweet and kind to begin with, it caught me off guard, and I was trying to fix it and get back to there.  This was before I knew anything about BPD, and I was very confused by what seemed like a total change in her personality as well.

For a while I bought into it and assumed she was right, I really wasn't "good enough", which trashed my self esteem and self confidence, something we hear about time and again around here, and exactly the opposite of what an intimate partner is supposed to be all about.

Examples:

"Why did you stop working out?  You're fat and your chest sags.  I need you to have a perfect body."

"The woman a man shares a bed with controls his world."

"You dress like a slob."

"You should sit down on the toilet, (former lover) used to sit down and he was a real man."

"You stink."

"You're a child."

"Just keep listening to your head tell you you're worthless."

"I've been with a lot of men who fck me a lot better than you do."

Oh, a punching the crap out of me didn't help either.

Typing that sht kinda pisses me off all over again.  How much of that can you actually take before you explode?  Quite a bit apparently, but it's never OK, and the longer you wait, the more it builds.  The clincher was when we went on a cruise with her kids, and without telling me, she switched the cabin assignments so she shared the cabin with the big bed with her daughter, and I got banished to the cabin with two beds with her son.  

There didn't seem to be any limit to how far she'd go, and of course sitting down and talking about it like adults was met with blame, accusation, more disrespect, no resolution.  I was way out of my league when it came to playing that game, she's been doing it her whole life with dozens and dozens of men, or boys to her, and those conversations would just spin me out further.  The cruise was the last straw, I felt a rage surge up inside me I've never felt before, and I'm actually proud I kept a lid on it as we left and I caught a flight home; what I wanted to do was beat the fcking btch into a bloody puddle of mush, but I smiled, hugged her, left, and got drunk when I got home.  The way I played it I had nothing to regret or feel guilty about, didn't go to jail, and a whole lot of weights got lifted a whole lot of times at the gym, and healthy use of that rage.

Now, a year and a half later, I see her as a sick person and not a bad one, I have some compassion for her, and the whole thing has caused my naivety to die, and me to get in really good shape and grow up a bunch, so I'm focusing on the gifts.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 10:50:58 AM »

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Now, a year and a half later, I see her as a sick person and not a bad one, I have some compassion for her, and the whole thing has caused my naivety to die, and me to get in really good shape and grow up a bunch, so I'm focusing on the gifts.[/quote]
Very nicely put.
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