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« on: July 19, 2014, 09:09:19 AM »

I was wondering how long it took people on this board to go? Was it on impulse, or an event or did you plan and execute?

I'm working through some issues. After all this rage, I have to realise I'll get worse. I have to work on myself to let go of my life here. I fear retaliation, I put myself in a quandary. I want a period of calm to prepare.

Is this normal?  I can't see any other outcome, I just don't want WW 3.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2014, 02:43:33 PM »

It took me a little less than 2 years from considering leaving to actually filing papers.  A lot of the delay was due to financial issues on my end.  Once I got that squared away, it took me six months to get all of my ducks in a row, then file.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2014, 03:07:46 PM »

Thanks, iluminati, during the time you stayed did it continue with periods of calm and rage? Was there a final event or did you go as soon as your financial matters were in order?
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2014, 03:41:23 PM »

My mindset during the time I stayed was that "I'm with her until I'm not."  What I mean by that is that I remained fully engaged in the relationship, with all the attendant ups and downs.  One thing that helped with that my ex wasn't one for violence or destruction of property, so there weren't any clear and present threats to me staying around.  My thinking was that either things work out, and I have a happy marriage going forward, or they don't, and I have a relatively peaceful environment to work on myself and move on.

In terms of a final event, I would say yes and no.  No, in the sense that just based on how the timing of things worked out that I had a significant windfall of money coming my way anyway that would have let me go on and file.  I knew that as soon as that check cleared, it was game over, I'm out.  However, there was one event a few weeks before I pulled the trigger that sealed the deal.  My ex decided to go out with her new boyfriend at the last minute on the same night there was a reunion of my old HS basketball team.  The upshot was that a bunch of the players had since left the area after HS, and it was a rare opportunity for everyone to see each other at once.  Then, she had the nerve to ask me to go to this family picnic.  It took all I could to not straight embarrass her in front of everyone.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2014, 04:53:52 PM »

From the time I moved in to the last move out, 9 months.

It was me who moved out each time, five times in total.

The first time, she was screaming at me that she hated me and to leave.

Then she told me she never said that, and love-bombed me and I fell for it.

Each recycle was worse and worse, the longest period of time we got along was about two weeks.

At first, I would forgive her and begin to feel safe and relaxed and excited about being alive and doing things, and something would happen out of the blue where she'd be screaming at me about something or somebody, accusing me of sleeping with so and so or wanting to f* somebody else.

Along with the accusations of cheating were the accusations of being a liar, hiding things, being manipulative, and more.

In my whole life, I have never cheated. And with all integrity, I was beginning to hide from her because I was terrified she'd make another accusations and another meaningless fight would ensue. I was manipulating my life to appear appropriate so she'd stop screaming at me. No matter what I did, I would lose.

During the last month our fights got worse. She said I wasn't a man. Said I was broken. Said I was using her. There was a lot that I no longer remember, unless somebody starts talking in a similar way then I get triggered (example, new age speech about projection and mirroring and being unconditional and all positive ... .  )

Honestly, the trauma of it all has left me not remembering most of it. Perhaps I need to write it down to remind myself, in case I ever feel lonely and reconsider.

The final straw was when she was screaming that I was abusing her, while clawing and punching at her own face.

I did the stealth move ... .out of the town, out of the state, and to my parents home four hours away.  my baggage

To this day, she insists she never did or said those things.

None of it.

She says I made it up to humiliate her and make her my enemy.

Talk about crazy-making behavior. It did a number on my self-esteem. I was questioning myself, reality, my memory, what I was seeing and feeling ... .I began to believe her that I was broken.

I feel broken.

She wants to be friends with me, work with me on projects. I don't want to give her any way in.

After all her accusations, I can't. I found a picture of her with a guy.

She refuses to admit to her accusations and perception she held about me, women, and dating ... .and cannot see how she has a double standard. He is just a friend. Riiiight ... .a "friend." According to her definitions of "friend" they are bumpin' uglies.

She used to threaten me with going out and doing whatever she wanted ... .because according to her that is what I did. I did whatever I wanted and never listened to her.

So, she IS doing this stuff ; there is visual proof ... .and she still denies it.

She claims that I have been dating and seeing people since I moved out.

I have not. I've focused on healing, self-nurturing ... .and helping out my mother who has had a stroke.

I'm terrified of getting involved in such a toxic relationship again, and avoid women in general.

Things with her reached a point that I was having severe chest pains.

When I mentioned this to her she put me down and would talk about how her brother was a hypochondriac who got all the attention because he faked being sick.

If I am going to kill myself, I'd rather it be short and sweet and not a living hell. Living with her in this state was, as my father put it, suicide by relationship.

So ... .long story short ... .it took me 4 months to move out the first time (as she screamed at me) and then five more months to make it final. Then it has taken 9 months to reach the point where I am never going back, I am at peace with how things are turning out.

All in all, around two years of my life gone ... .and the rest gained.

It is my opinion that leaving is completed once we are no longer emotionally invested / attached to the individual, and that forgiveness and compassion has begun to set in.

I do not want to give this person ANY power over me, and for me that includes carrying any emotional baggage.

Thank you, emotional freedom and leaving in body AND SPIRIT.

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2014, 05:03:40 PM »

Thanks to both of you for your replies.  I like the phrase that I'm here til I'm not.  I can't see a future but have some letting go to work on and I have conjured up many leaving scenarios. I just don't know how it'll play out. I want time to find the path unless my hand is forced and I pray that doesn't happen.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2014, 05:13:01 PM »

Thanks to both of you for your replies.  I like the phrase that I'm here til I'm not.  I can't see a future but have some letting go to work on and I have conjured up many leaving scenarios. I just don't know how it'll play out. I want time to find the path unless my hand is forced and I pray that doesn't happen.

The mindset of "I'm here until I'm not" comes from 2 different places.  For one, I never had a pattern of recycling relationships, and that way of thinking became infectious, for lack of a better term.  There were a number of occasions where my ex threatened to leave, and I offered no resistance.  Ironically, that seemed to stop her from leaving, if that makes sense.  Two, I saw on here during my staying days how the constant cycle of break-ups-to-make-ups was so damaging, so I resolved not to do that.  It doesn't make sense to go nuclear every time something goes wrong, so why not work on it before pulling the plug.  It seemed much simpler to me.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2014, 06:45:11 PM »

I had no knowledge of BPD and I was fighting for survival without any knowledge.  I was so broken as a person due to the gaslighting and abuse.  I only see that now. 

It was constant and I just took it as I believed the harder I would work then the more she would understand and see I was trying. 

The final for me was being hit.  I work in a industry where I have to use violence at times and I have been knocked out, bitten and some serious fights while working.  I have dealt with people with knives, talked them down and had someone try to stab me with a blood filled syringe.   Throufh all of that I have never once got in trouble.  I dealt with all of that at work and I would have my de-brief and never bring it home.  I never hit my family or friends I keep all of that at work.  I never transferred those issues to home. 

When I was hit by her I couldn't control it any more.  It was something I couldn't accept.  I have written about it elsewhere but I had  been running trying to disengage and ended up stuck in a corner with the doorway blocked and her standing their with our son on her hip hitting me. 

I punched a hole in the wall.  I accept that it wasn't a good reaction and I could have handled it better.  It destroyed me as straight away it was all my fault.  I then accepted this as well as I knew I had punched a hole in the wall. 

From then on in for 13 months I got the most massive mind f#!@ ever and eventually had a breakdown. 

I still am amazed by the damage that was done to me and how I accepted everything. 

Even now I am not going to run away if she asks for help however I can't go back.  I am that person and I am proud of myself I must cant ever go back. 

I am afraid of what it will do to me again.  Some people have said that they cant trust people intimately again and at the moment this is the truth for me.  I can't trust anyone, more importantly I still don't trust myself. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2014, 08:27:09 PM »

27 years married. One week after our 25th wedding anniversary cruise she jumped me and then called the police and they arrested her!. I moved out for a week, then came back. Then moved out for three weeks 6 months later. Then about another 6 months later moved out permanently. She threatened on several occassions to call the police and say I attempted to rape her. She was becoming increasingly more violent and I have professional licenses at stake. Its been about 8 weeks now, 3 weeks NC and I get contacted by her lawyer for ridiculous spousal support. Then she sits my son (25) down and tells him about all our kinky sex (mostly lies.) I'm so crushed by it all. Half my life wasted with this woman. Ugh.
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