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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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« on: October 23, 2014, 03:29:14 PM »

My x had a really dysfunctional r/s with his x (long-term marriage), and described behaviors that are definite PD traits.  Also, I witnessed much of it, so I know he wasn't just making up things/projecting.

He frequently said:  I wish you didn't get the "damaged" version of me.  I wasn't like this when I was younger.

He blames his relationship/intimacy issues on being married to his x for so long.  She seems to be strongly narcissistic, at least, and has several common co-morbid conditions in her history (bulimia, conversion disorder/hypochondria, possible rx drug addiction, really strange behaviors in post-divorce relationships--moving new BFs in her house with her and her kids after a couple of weeks' dating... .etc.)

I was pretty suspicious she might have a PD or at least strong traits, but honestly didn't suspect my xBF, although I knew he had mood disorder(s).

Is it possible that he is just going through a hard time/adjustment period, as I originally thought?  Did anyone here feel like they'd picked up PD traits, themselves, through long-term contact?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 03:48:21 PM »

Yes, I sometimes feel like I have become a bit crazy as a result of all of the years of living with my husband and his moodiness. Keep in mind that PTSD and BPD have a lot of similarities. When I came to these forums and began reading, I wasn't sure if I was the one with BPD or if it was my husband or if it was both of us. I have taken a few online tests and have done a bunch of reading. I am a bit flaky but I do possess a level of awareness, logic, and reason that my husband is incapable of possessing. I have come to believe that my craziness is a result of being so isolated for so long coupled with certain behaviors being normalized. The more the FOG lifts, the easier it is for me to get a better grip on things and behave how I think a normal person should behave. There was a period of time where I felt like I had become completely unhinged.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 03:58:39 PM »

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Keep in mind that PTSD and BPD have a lot of similarities.

He called it PTSD, which I think was/is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but who am I to judge?

Would/could that explain the abrupt breakup and lack of closure?

I know the dx isn't the important piece except that it sorta is, to me, bc I have never had a r/s with a non-disordered person, since I began dating at the age of 14.  I didn't know that, of course, until much, much later and just felt "unlucky in love."  Lots of therapy and analysis made things pretty clear and I'm not exaggerating one iota.  Both of my siblings, too, have only had serious r/s and marriages with seriously disturbed people.

I would feel better if the most recent X had PTSD and was just kinda a jack@$$ because I truly thought I had done a lot of work and was ready for something healthy/better.  I just smiled for the first time today typing that.  Irony everywhere... .

I have (had?) mostly recovered from PTSD via psychotherapy and EMDR, myself.  Mine had a classical onset (child with life-threatening illness) and was complicated by earlier and subsequent traumatic events.  I am having a lot of trouble understanding my reaction to this breakup bc it started with relief, then shock (when I was harassed) and now suddenly, months later, sadness and grief.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 09:39:58 PM »

He called it PTSD, which I think was/is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but who am I to judge?

Would/could that explain the abrupt breakup and lack of closure?

How long were you with him? It is so difficult to make any kind of determination in a short period of time. I could have been a whole host of different things. A lot of times, people think that the break up was abrupt when the writing was on the wall and it just wasn't seen or noticed. Sure, closure is nice but what is closure for one person may not be for another.

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I would feel better if the most recent X had PTSD and was just kinda a jack@$$ because I truly thought I had done a lot of work and was ready for something healthy/better.  I just smiled for the first time today typing that.  Irony everywhere... .

I sometimes think we want an explanation when there may not be one. I have seen two people in a relationship together and seem very disordered. They part ways and both go on to have decent/good relationships with other people. Sometimes, two people just aren't a good fit and one or both parties don't realize it.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 05:38:26 AM »

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How long were you with him? It is so difficult to make any kind of determination in a short period of time. I could have been a whole host of different things. A lot of times, people think that the break up was abrupt when the writing was on the wall and it just wasn't seen or noticed. Sure, closure is nice but what is closure for one person may not be for another.

We were only together 2.5 years.  The breakup was abrupt by anyone's standards, I think, although it was precipitated by a fight.  Two days before, he was going on and on (and on) about how much he loved me, how much he wanted to show me and try to be more intimate.  We had just spent three weekends together, traveling, which was new for us.  I guess there was "closure" for him--he dumped me via FB msg, saying:  you were right, I don't have it in me to have a deep/profound relationship, I'm too fried to see you/talk to you.

He didn't say a single nice thing to me, offer to get together to talk it over, etc.  His tone toward me completely changed.  I tried to get him to talk a couple of times afterwards (text) and he was condescending and cold.  It stunned me that he suddenly hated me.  I thought he was kind and gentle... .I even tried to walk him through how "normal" breakups happen  Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) but he was having none of it.  We didn't even get together or make plans to exchange personal items.  I haven't seen him since, except driving (we live in the same neighborhood).

Then he started harassing me, recorded "prank calls" in the middle of the night (to my cell phone, for which very people have the #--and he has horrible insomnia), phony emails/calls into my office, etc.  I wasn't positive it was him, but then found out later it started the same time he heard through a mutual friend I was dating someone else.  He is furious with that friend for setting me up, and has stated his intention to "have nothing to do with him" despite the fact they have been friends for 40 years.  The friend was as shocked as I am, but is not hurt--just angry.

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I sometimes think we want an explanation when there may not be one. I have seen two people in a relationship together and seem very disordered. They part ways and both go on to have decent/good relationships with other people. Sometimes, two people just aren't a good fit and one or both parties don't realize it.

It seemed like a good fit.  Very affectionate and demonstrative, we laughed so much and were in constant contact, very little conflict.  Our friends were all shocked by the breakup.  However, I think you're right that it wasn't actually a good relationship.  I had really opened up to him and told him the worst thing he could do to me is not talk to me (silent treatment--he'd done that to me a couple of times before, I always had to cajole him to have a conversation if he was ignoring me).  I guess if someone knows your vulnerabilities explicitly, and chooses to use them against you, that's a pretty good indicator it's not a healthy r/s.

He has so many wonderful qualities--I adored him.  But he was definitely suffering from mental health issues, there is no question about that part, he openly admitted it.  It's just that I thought he was having trouble adjusting to some difficult life situations and had depression/anxiety.  It took a long time to realize that he is always having some sort of crisis, it's like a lifestyle for him.  I honestly believed he was just going through a (legitimate) rough patch when we met.  It slowly dawned on me that he didn't seem to feel any better as his life situation improved.  Almost like he was only happy when he was unhappy.

Unfortunately, I'm starting to feel like I'm the same way.  Maybe it's a mid-life crisis, but it's definitely something different from anything I've experienced before... .a heavy, despairing type of feeling seems to have taken hold.
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