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jadedcat

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« on: December 17, 2014, 09:58:11 AM »

So, I moved out two months ago. It has not been no contact. My BPD wife texts me every couple of days, at least. Either to vent at me, to insult me, or to threaten suicide.

We have kids, who are now adults, though none in common (Second marriage for both of us).

Her last long series of texts was about the holidays and how I was planning on spending them. Was I getting her a gift? Were we all going to get together?

I told her I hadn't really thought about it and I hadn't at that point.

It would feel weird and phony to get together. My kids don't want it - they both encouraged me to move out to escape the emotional abuse I was receiving. They have not had much of a relationship with her the past several years and frankly want nothing to do with her right now.

I'm dealing with guilt. And sadness. I've some supportive friends, but I don't think they realize I have sadness about the end of the marriage and about her. At one point, we made a commitment too each other and I love her, but I know I cannot remain in that relationship - the fear of her anger, her judgmental comments and the fatigue of dealing with her ongoing depression have left me a pretty broken person.

I'm hoping to  have some moments of peace over the holidays ( het last text to me said she had found the best Xmas present for me - one month of no contact from her). I don't expect that to last, but I will be with my kids and that is good.

She remains in our house for now - we'll sell it soon. But driving past it is hard. There is a big xmas tree in the window. It's my house, but I am no longer part of it. It feels weird.

I know from reading this forum that I am far from the only one going through an experience like this. I hope the rest of you find moments of peace and joy this holiday season. WE all deserve that.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2014, 08:34:50 AM »

Hi Jadedcat, the holidays are a challenging time.  So many traditions that stem all the way back to our childhood.  Seeing your house with a Christmas tree inside and you aren't part of it must be difficult.  When I split with my first husband (non) we tried doing Christmas morning together for the sake of our mutual son.  It was really difficult and awkward and I said I wouldn't do it again.  Trying to do the same with my uBPDexh?  Impossible!  There'd be no way to consider it.  Since you don't have mutual children and your adult children are supportive of you moving on, I'd take their advise.  Will be the easiest on you mentally.  Time to start a new tradition.  I'm considering taking the kids to a cabin for New Years.  Something new and just for us!
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2014, 09:53:11 AM »

It's challenging. We were together for 13 years. My therapist reminds me that the person I fell in love with was a creation of her illness in a way, but that really doesn't make it any easier. I do not miss the drama and the never-ending stress begin with her brought about, but I do miss her. We were in love for 13 years.

My kids and close friends are very supportive of me being out of the house for my own health, and they are pretty angry at her for how she has treated me over the past several years. Yet I do still love her and care for her. I almost feel myself trying to stand up for her with them. It is an illness. But I just reached the point myself where I could not take any more.

Further, I haven't really confronted her in a direct manner about her BPD and how it has impacted me, though I have told her the stress in our relationship had become more than I could handle.

So, she keeps texting me that she can't understand how I could just walk away from us after all these years. And she tells our friends that, too. So, I am the bad guy here. She is getting support from and sympathy from many of our friends and I feel like I really can't reach out to those same people.

Meanwhile, my close friends seem to feel I should just be feeling relief for getting away from her and don't really seem to understand that I am in mourning also. Tough holidays.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2014, 10:50:38 AM »

Hi jadedcat!

I've been out of our house for 10 months, so I know what you're talking about pretty darn up close and personal myself. It's really really hard. We have to grieve the loss of all the things we thought we were going to have as a couple, and slowly over time realize how many of the loving things our partners say are about getting their needs met rather than for any concern for us. You're right, it's an illness, and that makes it seem so sad that we have "given up" on our commitment to them--but we haven't actually given up on them, we've finally realized that we need to care for ourselves and our own mental health.

The analogy is used around here of the airline attendant doing the safety talk, and how she'll say that if the oxygen masks come down to put your own on first before helping your child or anyone else, because how much good will you do anyone if you're passed out on the floor because you didn't put yours on?

So many of us who get into these relationships have huge hearts for people and we feel awful when we can't fix them--but that's their job, to fix themselves. To see where their relationships aren't working and make the decision to get help to change the things that need changing. We can't make them choose for their mental health. That was so hard for me to accept as well.

As far as friends, I found the same problem with long time friends--they couldn't understand and haven't been very sympathetic, but I've been fortunate to have some newer friends through a writers group who can just feel my emotions with me and be there for me.

It's a big, mixed-up mess of emotions that we feel in these complicated relationships, and one of the best things I've learned in this time is to sit with those emotions. I can be really clear one day about why I've left, but the next day be sad about needing to leave. It's all part of the grieving process, and as hard as it is right now you will move through it.

Weirdly for me, since I loved decorating for Christmas, when I go visit the doggies at my house while my uBPDh is at work, I hate seeing how he and my son have let it fall into such shabby shape, and there's no Christmas anywhere. It's just a sad, sad house without me there. Either way, it's gonna pull hard at our heartstrings, especially after years together. I do really feel for you in this time. My uBPDh keeps acting like it's all gonna be okay eventually, yet he still treats me with the same disregard and control and mean words he was all those months ago, even though he's been in counseling weekly for these past 10 months.

I like to write out my feelings of the moment, then when I go back I can see where I've moved through some particular part of the process. Do keep in mind that grief is a sneaky ass, and can surprise you with its intensity out of the blue. But know you won't feel that way forever. And that some days you may feel all the parts of grief at once, and they really don't come in a tidy order. But writing things down does show you the growth you've made over time.

Guilt is just part of that FOG we get covered by with our BPD loved ones--the Fear Obligation Guilt. I don't know if it's intentional when they cast that FOG net over us, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is that we are finally treating ourselves with care, and our mental health matters too, and it's the only mental health we can really have control over.

Try to take a deep breath and walk out of the FOG and into a lovely Christmas with your kids who love you and want you to be healthy. Smiling (click to insert in post)

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2014, 11:15:29 AM »

My kids and close friends are very supportive of me being out of the house for my own health, and they are pretty angry at her for how she has treated me over the past several years. Yet I do still love her and care for her. I almost feel myself trying to stand up for her with them. It is an illness. But I just reached the point myself where I could not take any more.

This is totally normal and I went through this when I ended both my marriages, the first one was with someone NOT mentally disordered.  Your empathy and feelings can't just shut off.  But everything Elpis says is right, grief is a sneaky ass!  There is no predictability to it.  One day you feel guilt, the next anger, the next acceptance and then back to guilt again.  I know.  I went through the guilt too.  And I still do on occasion although after 6 mths out it is only occasionally now.  Hang in there, one step at a time.  Know what you are going through is a necessary part of processing the loss and in time things get easier and your mind will become clearer.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2014, 12:19:58 PM »

My LT r/s with my dOCD+uBPD-Xw lasted 24 years.  I have NC with her as do our adult children (D21 & S24).

She seeking engagement.  Avoid it.  You can't move forward when you are living in the past.
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