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« on: April 18, 2015, 10:31:26 AM »

I was with my husband for almost 9 years (4 years g/f and b/f slightly on and off and 5 years married again with 2 separations both times he left me).

I am struggling to get to terms with the divorce although officially we have been divorced for just over 14 months.

Our relationship was rocky from start, even as gf/bf. But more so when we got married. He didn't even want to have wedding, so we only had an engagement party which was thrown by my parents. Throughout the marriage he was hot and cold. I knew he had major childhood traumas (his parents especially his mother physically had abused him throughout his childhood up until teenage years) and when we first met he had major aggression issues. He was never physically abusive towards me but in hindsight he was definitively emotionally abusive towards me.

I have only recently started to put two and two together and his characteristics and traits really matches borderline personality disorder (he displayed everything except suicidal tendencies), but he was never interested in seeing a doctor to get treatment for his incredible mood swings and major depression episodes. He used to tell me what a horrible childhood he had endured and he knew what his problems were and no one could help him, except himself. But he would never confide in me about everything either so I only got to know snippets, but the snippets were so bad that I realised he had major emotional traumas. I just didn't know how to help him and he never wanted to see a specialist

What really hurt me the most is that after our divorce in Jan 2014, he continued to fantasize that we would get back to together and 9 months later as I am trying to move on with my life (I even moved country and changed career at the same time) he calls me and begs me to take him back. I had already taken him back 2 times (after he had left me and we separated for 3 months in 2011 and 6 months in 2012) and I honestly did not believe him when he told me he had changed. He said he had had time to really go through every scenario in his mind the past 9 months and he has no issues with me any longer or my family (he never liked my family and thought they hated him and didn't show him any respect). He wants exactly what I want: a nice wedding and a family life with kids.

I stood my grounds and said no. Then I continued to try to get on with my life and we cut contact for the rest of the year, even though my heart ached for him and longed for him. It felt like he had sown the seed that 'perhaps he has actually changed this time' and even though I started dating some 'rebound' guy for a couple months I felt myself slipping into a depression. I called the whole thing off with the rebound guy and decided it is best if I am single for some time.

The depression deepened when he started to speak to me again after NY 2015. He told me how he had changed and he wanted everything I want. He can't believe that I don't want him because he is not financially secure (he has never been financially secure and only this year he finally has a job as he partnered with a friend and opened a restaurant business which is not making much money yet). I kept telling him we had so many issues, how can he reassure me those won't happen again. He told me in 2012 he wants to be with forever and then less than a year later he told me 'you're hell to live with and I can't stand you or your family'. So, I still said no, we shouldn't get back together. I told him: Even if I really love you I have to let you go. Plus I told him I had briefly dated someone. That was when he said OK, I will get over you now. And 2 weeks later he told me he has a g/f.

During our conversations in January to March he made me feel like his behaviour in the past was just simple misunderstanding. He kept saying you know I was young and inexperienced and without proper knowledge (He was in his early 30s during our marriage). It is like he was saying it is normal to beg someone to take you back (in 2012) and tell that person you want to spend the rest of your life with them and you can't imagine being away from them another day, then less than a year later say you can't stand this person and they are hell to live with. I felt like I was living on a roller coaster with him and that he never took our marriage seriously. I was planning children and kept asking him when we could look at starting a family and he would not commit. In the end he told me he can't imagine having kids with me. He always blamed my family for disrespecting him or not liking him enough: Your family doesn't like me and I don't like them, why should I want to build a family with you? All of these behaviours he told me were just simple mistakes because of what he termed "inexperience".

Now I want to find a way to let go of him, and his empty words? The words he told me this year was so 'pleasing' to my ears I just didn't trust them enough to take him back. He told he wants the same type of life I used to talk to  him about, a family orientated one. How did this person change by himself? Then when he gets himself a gf he has the audacity to tell me " you know I have always been a family man and I would like you to be in my life even when I have a wife and 5 kids". How has he always been a family man? He never wanted a family - he didn't even want to be married with me? He told me once that he doesn't think he is the marriage type. He should just have a gf. But now all of a sudden he is family orientated? How can he not see that is very cruel to tell me, who had dreamt about having a family with him (I actually believed he was the love of my life and the person I would grow old with), that I should be in his life and see him when he has 5 kids with someone else? On the other hand he tells me if his gf acts in a way that he doesn't like then he will change gf's. His favorite expression is that "there are always more beautiful girls in the sea".

Now I have cut contact with him, but his words still haunt me. I really need a good way to realise that even if he tells me he has changed and is a family man that those are just that - empty words.

I know that he definitely has borderline personality traits (if not the disorder itself) and his relationship with me was breaking me down emotionally and mentally. But I am having a hard time to let go of "the what ifs". What if I had taken him back again? Would it have worked? Those are the thoughts that keep haunting me these days. Even though realistically (and statistically based on past experiences) it would probably have worked for about a year before he would tell me "eff" off.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2015, 11:07:12 AM »

Hi kee-

I'm sorry you have and are going through all that; your story sounds completely common around here, and the fact you found this website and it speaks to you is really all the 'diagnosis' you need; it's not the label, it's the behaviors that matter.

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I felt like I was living on a roller coaster with him and that he never took our marriage seriously. I was planning children and kept asking him when we could look at starting a family and he would not commit. In the end he told me he can't imagine having kids with me.

Borderlines have an unstable sense of self, meaning who he 'is' to himself is constantly changing, and that has a ripple effect into how he thinks and how he feels about everything.  Trying to be in relationship with that is just like being on a roller coaster, as you noticed, and that's a roller coaster that never stops, the only way to get your feet on the ground is to get off.

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Now I want to find a way to let go of him, and his empty words? The words he told me this year was so 'pleasing' to my ears I just didn't trust them enough to take him back.

Good for you!  Borderlines are all about attachments and the fear of losing them, and if he fears he will lose the attachment with you he will launch into sugar, idealizing you, until he knows he has you of course, then it's back to devaluation, the perpetual push/pull of the disorder.  You've steeled yourself against him so you don't trust the words now, and consider that progress, even though they still touch you emotonally.

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How can he not see that is very cruel to tell me, who had dreamt about having a family with him (I actually believed he was the love of my life and the person I would grow old with), that I should be in his life and see him when he has 5 kids with someone else? On the other hand he tells me if his gf acts in a way that he doesn't like then he will change gf's. His favorite expression is that "there are always more beautiful girls in the sea".

If yours is anything like my ex, he's not malicious, just clueless.  It's a combination of stunted emotional maturity, the disorder gets in the way of 'normal' maturation, that and borderlines are in a lot of pain, which puts them in survival mode much of the time, unable to consider other people's feelings, too busy dealing with his own.  And throw in the defense mechanisms of cognitive distortion, projection and splitting and you will never get your needs met sustainably there, you probably noticed.

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Now I have cut contact with him, but his words still haunt me. I really need a good way to realise that even if he tells me he has changed and is a family man that those are just that - empty words.

But I am having a hard time to let go of "the what ifs". What if I had taken him back again? Would it have worked? Those are the thoughts that keep haunting me these days. Even though realistically (and statistically based on past experiences) it would probably have worked for about a year before he would tell me "eff" off.

The words will continue to haunt you for a while, and the key is to stop them coming, which you've already done, but you don't get over a multi-year relationship with someone with a personality disorder overnight.  You may find that that's the good news as you detach, because the constant focus, that will lose it's power over time, can be the inspiration to dig deep into what's going on with you, an exciting time, and you may come out the other side amazed at how much you've grown and how differently you see yourself and the world.  It's a brand new day!  Take care of you!
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2015, 03:56:37 PM »

Hi kee,

Welcome

I'm sorry your going through this.

fromheeltoheal has given you helpful information about the disorder.

It's frustrating and painful wanting to start a family and your exH was saying one thing and now saying another

The words he told me this year was so 'pleasing' to my ears I just didn't trust them enough to take him back. He told he wants the same type of life I used to talk to  him about, a family orientated one. How did this person change by himself?

Now I have cut contact with him, but his words still haunt me. I really need a good way to realise that even if he tells me he has changed and is a family man that those are just that - empty words.

What borderline personality disorder traits taught me is to not listen to the words and look at the actions.

The truth lies there.

It helps to talk.


Hang in there.


----Mutt

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