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Author Topic: Wedding Woes and a Non-apology Apology from MIL  (Read 958 times)
LepoqueModerne

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« on: November 04, 2015, 01:27:54 PM »

Hi everyone! I’m new to this forum, and it seems like a very positive space so I wanted to share my story and get your advice.  I’m only beginning to learn about BPD, but have already found this site to be extremely enlightening.

First, a little bit of backstory. My husband and I met while I was studying abroad. His mother always made certain hairs on the back of my neck stand up and would make little hurtful comments. She would often guilt-trip her son, to be sure he was always more loyal to her than to me. She came across as very controlling, and emotionally volatile- but I chalked it up to just being a MIL-DIL thing and mostly ignored it.

We eventually got engaged and decided for job reasons to move back to my home country together. (Which I imagine would be a huge trigger if this is BPD!) We knew it would be difficult balancing life between the two countries, but tried our best to remain connected. We started wedding planning. My husband and I were thinking of getting married in a location between our two countries as a nice symbolic gesture.  When my husband mentioned this plan to his parents, his mother started crying and saying we were purposefully trying to hurt her and that if we did this we would be killing her and breaking her heart. We put our wedding plans on hold for the next year. My husband couldn’t bear the pressure of possible non-compliance with his mother's expectations and the guilt of upsetting them.

Attempt No.2 at getting married was also a nightmare. We decided instead to have a small wedding in each country. My MIL would oscillate between trying to be my best friend, to the next day being very cruel and telling me I had chosen a small wedding because no one loved me and I was an unlovable person.  The next day it would be a guilt trip of her going to her son and saying I didn’t love her, never did, and didn’t pay enough attention to her. She would claim I was trying to steal him away from her and his family… And then back to acting like none of that had ever happened- being my best friend, buying me gifts and telling me how much she loved me. I felt very isolated because through all this, she was always over-the-top charming with my friends and family, showering them with compliments and gifts. I didn't feel like I had anyone I could talk to who would believe me that she could be so cruel sometimes. Plus the way she treated everyone else kindly, and me poorly, really made me feel like there was truly something wrong with ME. 

When we weren't planning the wedding the way she wanted, she would arrange her way of doing things as a “surprise” for us. When we didn’t like her surprise, we were treated as ungrateful and she would cry and make a scene. For her, I’m some evil witch that has cast a spell on her all-good son. I felt like I was going crazy and, I took her comments to heart. I ended up going through a difficult bout of depression and anxiety after all these years of attempts at wedding planning.  No matter how much I tried to be kind, listen and work at bridging the distance, I was always wrong. (ie. If I say I like green, it’s because I’m a blue hater and personally trying to hurt her by hating blue.)

After the wedding, we learned that she was once again doing one of her “surprises” and making all the wedding albums to go out to the family herself without asking. My husband and I were trying to learn to set boundaries with her so we gently told her that we were taking care of making the albums and that we did not want her doing this. She flew off into a rage- one of her nastiest yet, and said some extremely hurtful things about me. She concluded the incident by sending me an email saying it was “good to clear the air” (even though this air-clearing was one sided). I decided this was the last straw for me. I didn’t have the strength to be this woman’s punching bag anymore. I have not spoken to her in the last year since the incident. While there has been a lot of guilt, I don’t regret it. For the first time in many years I have been able to focus on myself and the positive relationships I have with people I care about. I can heal, love myself, and be happy again. My husband still talks to his parents occasionally. She completely denies that the incident ever happened, to the point where I believe she may honestly have painted over it in her mind. She is back to being the victim where my silence is seen as the true confirmation that I hate her and am trying to separate her from her son. My husband has recently tried to push her for an apology, and that is where my question starts…

Essentially, I received a non-apology apology. A handwritten letter stating something along the lines of “I’m sorry I misunderstood, I have never had to learn how to deal with such a selfish (she loves to throw around the term “selfish” for anyone who doesn’t serve HER every need ALWAYS) mentally ill (I made the mistake of telling her I was dealing with anxiety and depression during the wedding planning and it is now her label for me) person before.”

How should I respond to this non-apology? Should I even respond? I am not willing to re-enter into a relationship with this woman while she is still behaving in this manner. Does she deserve this in writing or will that just backlash? Should my husband try to respond and re-affirm boundaries? Does this all even sound like BPD? (I know- so many questions! Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)) I get the impression that she believes she has made a genuine heart-felt apology. If I don’t forgive her and ignore it, then I am giving her the silent treatment after she has “tried to make amends”. I am once again the villain. If I point out that it was a hurtful letter that wasn't really taking any responsibility for her own behaviour, I’m sure I would get the rage and retaliation both in person and behind my back (possibly on social media as she facebook friended every relative, friend, and co-worker of mine that she clapped eyes on while visiting for a month for the wedding… and follows them online religiously.)

Her behavior always leaves me so dizzied, hurt and confused. Anyone have any advice on where to go from here?
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 04:13:32 PM »

Don't respond but save the letter... It is nasty, rude and insulting and if anyone read it they would know she didn't apologize. Keep your boundary. In fact, it needs to be stronger: before you speak to her, she needs to get help.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 10:04:30 PM »

While I can think of several sarcastic responses to that letter (including responding by cutting letters out of magazines like a ransom note), they wouldn't be help full. 

With a person with BPD, we talk a lot about vaidation on their feelings. "Validate the valid; invalidate the invalid." I agree with Deb. No response. There is nothing valid in her letter.

The only valid target is her admission of misunderstanding... .which segued into hurtful accusations. There's not much to work with there.

What are your plans for the future, kids? The friending of your social circle is concerning. Have you received any negative blow-back from this?

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 10:12:41 PM »

Wow that's awful! As long as your husband has your back on this, I would opt for no communication. She called you mentally ill? She would be toast in my book! Good luck and be strong, keep those boundaries!
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 10:06:04 AM »

Thanks everyone for your support! It's great to connect with people who understand situations like this (even if it would be better if none of us had to go through this in the first place!). Deb- excellent idea about keeping the letter. It is in a way nice to have something tangible that can't later be denied... .although I'm sure that wouldn't keep her from trying!

Beacher, my husband has got my back these days, which I'm really grateful for. At the start of all of this, my husband was very much under the thumb of his mother. She likes having "all her little ducklings in line" as she proudly will admit herself. We ended up going to couples counseling after all the stress of the wedding (which helped enormously) and have been pretty much on the same page since. I think moving away has helped him gain a bit of clarity and independence. And since I stepped out of the ring this past year it has meant he has had to deal with his mother's shenanigans directly and that has helped him to see her bad behaviours. It is sad to say, but we have a very happy life when she is not in it. 

Turkish, you asked about kids. I must admit I would be afraid to even consider this. I know this is something that I need to work on as I continue to learn and heal. I certainly don't want this woman dictating the choices I make in life. I will admit I am afraid she would play the same kind of games with our kids. I'm afraid that my husband's boundaries would soften with wanting our kids to have a good relationship with their grandparents. She is very possessive about family (she grew up in a neglectful household and practically raised her 6 brothers on her own). I believe our kids would quickly become her possessions in her mind. I don't want to be ruled by fear of her, so I know this is an area where I will have to grow and change.

While I have her blocked on Facebook since this last incident, it does make me uncomfortable with her following so much of my social circle closely online. The one time I tried to even half-mention this was making me feel uncomfortable I was "trying to control her" and again my feelings were disregarded as being because I was "mentally ill"(as I mentioned this is her go-to label since admitting I was feeling depressed a few years back). I also run my own small business, and I have heard she follows that quite closely online as well. Definitely still creeps me out, but besides blocking her from my personal page, I'm not sure there is much else I can do here.

From learning more and more about NC, I think Deb, you are right that I need to even strengthen the boundaries I have. Stop reading the emails and letters that come in. They are always just more attacks or, somehow even more hurtful, cheery messages pretending we are best friends and nothing ever happened.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 11:08:33 AM »

While I have her blocked on Facebook since this last incident, it does make me uncomfortable with her following so much of my social circle closely online. The one time I tried to even half-mention this was making me feel uncomfortable I was "trying to control her" and again my feelings were disregarded as being because I was "mentally ill"(as I mentioned this is her go-to label since admitting I was feeling depressed a few years back).

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 01:25:09 PM »

Hello!  

If I don’t forgive her and ignore it, then I am giving her the silent treatment after she has “tried to make amends”. I am once again the villain.

A therapist once told me that no communication IS communication. I agree with the others in saying that there's nothing in that "note" that you can actually work with. For her to say that she apologized is not true. And if she genuinely belives that she made a heartfelf apology, you responding to it would validate her delusion. At this time, it looks like she isn't going to change. So you have a decision to make about how you choose to feel about this situation. When my BPD mom does or says something that leads me to feel compromised, I have to consciously decide to not enable her behaviour. I choose instead to manage my own discomfort about her vilification of me. I'm learning to choose to be ok with the fallout because for me, the alternative of playing into her manipulation is unacceptable. I hope this helps. It's very difficult to manage this kind of unfair targeting  

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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 09:54:49 AM »

Thanks Panda 39! I've been reading some of the lessons. Lots there to work through, but very helpful!

A part of me would still really like to be able to explain all the hurt I've felt from her behaviour and for her to be able to listen and "get it"- even if just a tiny bit. But I'm coming to understand that she may never be able to hear my side and I have to work on ME being ok with that. (easier said that done of course! haha)

Sarah girl- I really liked your comment on how no communication is communication. I certainly don't want to respond and set a precedent that this an ok way to speak to me, let alone an acceptable way of making amends.

I have been trying to work on knowing that while she may feel certain things about me are true and spread these "truths" to others- it doesn't automatically MAKE them true. Learning more about BPD has certainly helped me with this as well. (Certainly has been more helpful than reading all the usual "5 ways to get along better with your MIL" articles... .been there... .tried that) 
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