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« on: June 09, 2016, 09:36:48 PM »

I am 60 and have a younger sister with BPD. Over the years she has mostly functioned well, although many of the symptoms have been there - chaotic relationships, suicide gestures, raging anger and depression, always being the victim but not telling the whole story. Despite ups and downs over the years, she is a wonderful person, generous, hilarious, hard working, smart. The past few years she has been on a serious downward slide. She is now on disability and living in our elderly fathers house. He is away all winter but coming home soon. he has a quick temper also and their relationship has been up and down. Most recently - well it's a long story, but she flew into a rage at me and our brother - cursing, threatening, saying vicious things, and throwing things at us. Then an indication that she might take her life. The police got involved but determined she was not an immediate threat to herself. She has cut off contact with me.  I don't live nearby.

I don't know what to do. I'm afraid for her but also afraid of her. I'm afraid for my dad. If she loses it with him, I'm afraid she might hurt him. She won't respond to me and I don't know what to say anyway. I'm afraid to say anything as it all gets twisted around. I'm not sure what anyone could tell me but I'm really anxious and scared so if anyone has ideas let me know! 
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2016, 12:36:02 AM »

HEY BLACKCROW:

Welcome to BPD Family

I'm so sorry about the situation with your sister and your dad.  I can see why your are anxious about it.  You mentioned a brother.  :)oes he live closer to your dad's home?  Can he or some other neutral person assist with checking in on your dad (once he comes back to the house)?

I'm thinking your dad is at least 80 years old?  Would he use one of those alert systems, where a person wears a small device that they can use to signal for help.  In my area, there is usually a commercial, "I've fallen and I can't get up".  In your dad's situation, he would summon help to deal with your sister.  Would your dad call the police directly?  The one advantage of the alert, would be that he wouldn't have to get to a phone - just push the button.

What is the cause of your sister's disability.  Is it mental or physical?  Is she receiving any treatment for her disability?

Do you think the police thought your sister was just seeking attention, when she threatened suicide? (Since they didn't take any action)?

There is a lot of good information on this Website that you should find helpful.  There are some links on the right hand side of the page.  You can, also, go to "The Learning Center" area on the board (find the main index page or use the navigation drop-down at the bottom of this page).  The links below are likely helpful:


Here is a link to info. about Fear, Obligation and Guilt (FOG):

https://bpdfamily.com/content/emotional-blackmail-fear-obligation-and-guilt-fog

This link is to a Discussion Thread - What it means to be in the "FOG"

Note:  There are multiple pages for this one, might want to find the page numbering area at the top and click "all"

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=82926.0

Here is a link to a thread about boundaries:

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=61684.0

This link leads to discussion thread on boundaries (there are approx. 7 pages of discussion)

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=61684.0

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2016, 10:25:32 PM »

Thanks naughty nibbles!  I read the links you suggested ... .I have drug and alcohol issues in my family also, and some of the same ideas are used in those family support groups. I just didn't think of BPD and drug abuse being similar but it's remarkable how much they are.  My father is in his 80s. This has been so hard on him. He loves her and has done so much for her over the years - yet she sees him as the source of her problems. And he has enabled her, that's for sure. Which is probably why he is her biggest target.  I've been talking with him about what it will be like living with her. I finally told him I was afraid for his safety - that shocked him but he didn't disagree. He is staying where he is for now.

What family is left in the area where she lives has very limited contact with her. She does have a friend who checks in on her and will let me know if something drastic happens. My sis is on disability for depression and anxiety.

I need to start putting into practice some of the skills I learned at NA.

What's your situation?
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 08:25:48 AM »

Welcome Blackcrow! 

Sounds like you have a very challenging sister to say the least! It definitely sounds like she is escalating in her behaviour from your descriptions and thus causing more anxiety all around. Has she been formally diagnosed with BPD?

As difficult as it may seem, you or your dad are not to blame, no matter the accusation. Here is a link to an article from our site that may be helpful:  https://bpdfamily.com/content/Dr-Jekyll-and-Mr-Hyde. You may also want to read about Safety First over on the right side --------> near the top to help ensure that you and your family members stay safe. Has she ever physicality hurt any of you?

Please do stay in touch!  You will find a lot of helpful information here at our site. Many other members are facing situations similar to yours. As you read their posts you will also find help there.



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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 01:15:49 PM »

Paralyzed:

Glad you had a conversation with you dad and that he is staying where he is. Sounds like the safest situation right now.

Has your sister gotten any therapy or is she on any meds?  I'm thinking that since she is on disability for depression and anxiety, that she may be coerced to get some level of treatment (unless she is already on permanent disability). 

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I need to start putting into practice some of the skills I learned at NA.     

Good that you already have some tool to work with and that you have begun to dust them off.  I've been thinking recently that I wish I had learned better interpersonal relationship tools, when I was young.  Many of us didn't have good role models in that regard.  Too bad it isn't a requirement to pass an "EQ" test to graduate high school (or minimally for a college degree). 

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  What's your situation?       

I don't want to hijack your thread, but I do feel it helps all of us her to share our situations.

The uBPD in my life is my sister.  My father was a mixed bag of mental health issues.  Was he uBPD?  Perhaps.  He had some BPD traits.  He had anxiety and anger issues, depression that appeared to be mainly seasonal (SAD) and perhaps a bit ADD & OCD.  I loved my dad, but I had to get away from his grumpy and critical nature.  It was a relief for me, when I left home to live on my own.  I've often wondered how my mom was able to tolerate it for so many years.

At 92, both my parent's health was beginning to decline.  My dad wouldn't have gone to any "retirement home" and he was resistant to anyone coming into his own home, other than family.  That presented a very difficult situation, as my uBPD sister and I had to work together to do our best to take care of our parents during their sudden failing health.  Both parents ended up being hospitalized at the same time and both passed within 6 months of each other.  The wheels really fell off the bus in regard to my sister, as my sister proceeded to paint me black.  It started early on, when we had to work on the very first issue regarding my parents.

My sister wouldn't go to therapy, stating that she doesn't need it.  I was the one who went to therapy and learned that  my sister likely has BPD.  I couldn't rationalize how she could be so involved with a church and seemingly interact acceptably with church friends, but be so dysfunctional and nasty with me. I purchased the book, "Stop Walking on Egg Shells" and a workbook.  From one questionnaire I took, my sister appears to be a high functioning BPD.

My sister and I were "co's" on everything in regard to my parents:  Medical Power of Attorneys, Financial POA and the co-trustees on their trust.  It has been a living hell, since the first moment we had to agree on some decision or even discuss an issue:  Arguments about petty little things, frequent phone hang ups in mid conversation.  She became fixated on thinking I was talking down to her.  Then, she would complain that I "Talked to her as if she were someone I worked with.   I couldn't win in any regard.  From her prospective, I was either talking down to her or over her head.

It was hard to get her to really listen during conversations.  She would argue that I didn't say something that I did say, then she would argue that I said something I didn't say.  WOW, she would start an argument, when there wasn't one to be had (assuming I has a position I didn't take) Then, there were the rages, name calling and rants about everything she hates about me.

I could go on and on about the things she has done.  My sister ended up getting a lawyer, because she wanted an immediate 50% of the remaining trust funds, before we settled all the bills, taxes and other trust matters.  So, I've had to get my own lawyer to deal with her.  Sadly, my sister would rather waste thousands of dollars to try and get her way.  I'm currently only in contact with her via lawyers or US Mail.  I will likely go No Contact (NC) with her, once we get all the trust matters settled.   Should my sister ever decide to seek therapy, I'm open to resume communications and work on some things with her.l

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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 12:22:17 AM »

Thanks for sharing your story. My sister was high functioning for many years. She really went into a a long term tailspin when her girls (twins) left for college. She gets triggered by abandonment, as she sees it. As long as she had a boyfriend (she never had a problem getting boyfriends) she was OK for awhile. Then the relationship would blow up, another crisis. She's on meds and doing therapy - in the past if a therapist told her something she didn't like, she'd get a new therapist.  Your situation sounds so stressful - I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.  So painful, and so unnecessary. BPD folks like drama I think. that, or their perceptions are so off base that they just can't see reason. Not exactly paranoia but like they see criticism, rejection etc even when it's not there.  Your sister sounds so sure she is getting screwed over that she is fighting back, and ends up screwing herself (and you) for real. I hope I'm not assuming too much. Let me know.

My Dad's mom had BPD, I'm pretty sure. She was very much like my sister - narcissistic, manipulative, capable of saying and doing such mean things -- but also funny and charming at times. She used to do stuff like call her daughter in the middle of the night and say "I think I'm having a heart attack. Call me back in 10 minutes and see if I'm alive."  And then wouldn't answer the phone. So my aunt would go over and her mom was fine, just lonely or something.  My moms sister was similar. So I think there must be a genetic link. 

Anyhow, I wish you some measure of peace as you work this through.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 03:21:10 PM »

Blackcrow:

Thanks for your supporting words!  When a PBD paints you black, not much makes sense.

I believe BPD has both genetic and environmental roots.  I think many of us have a BPD tendency or two. 


It is good that your sister is in therapy and on some meds.  I think therapy is very valuable tool to lead toward  a better outcome.  Pills can be very necessary, but a pill won't likely cure bad behavior once the habit of bad behavior begins.

Keep in touch and let us know how things evolve with your sister.  I hope she gains enough control, so she won't be a danger around your dad.   
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