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Ridethestorm
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« on: November 07, 2025, 05:49:28 PM »

I recently split with my husband of almost 30 years for what I thought was emotional abuse. It's always been like living with two different people, but for a few years before the split it was only one side I ever saw. When he left, he went straight to GP and got therapy and meds, everyone told me how different and calm he was. I was bombarded with texts telling me how much he loved me and didn't realize what he was doing to me. He didn't realise he was scarring me, took accountability for everything and said he was a changed man. At this point he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
After a few months I decided I had to see for myself and give it one last shot. I'd always seen the vulnerable little boy underneath it all and thought things could change.
As soon as he got through the door he stopped his meds and twists everything so it's actually all my fault. Our adult son is no longer speaking to him because of the things he's done and said. I really want to help him, I want for this to work out cos this time is the final chance but once again it feels like I'm living with my worst enemy. Every word has contempt behind it. Also, his family back home totally, they're all manipulative, argumentative and abusive to their own partners. How do I stop this dynamic before it gets too ingrained again?
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2025, 06:16:22 AM »

What you experienced is that your H was motivated to change when you left, and now that you are back, that motivation isn't there. People can be externally and internally moticated. Often, it's a bit of both- we work for a paycheck but also are internally motivated to do a good job. There's a push-pull dynamic to a relationship with someone with BPD, and when you were away, he wanted you back. Now home, that goal is met.

But to leave, come back, leave- that isn't a good situation either. What you want is to have different dynamics within the relationship. You also don't want to push pull as a means of manipulating or controlling him. It's not possible to change another person. You can't make him motivated. However, you can work on your part in the dynamics.

It seems your H has had a therapist. Do you have one? Since changing your part in the dynamics involves you, this would be something you can work on with your own therapist. It may not seem fair that you do the work on this while he is the one with BPD but you are the only one to do this work for yourself. Ideally, he would do his work too- but that's not something you can do for him or make him do.

It will involve boundaries on your part, not reacting emotionally to his accusations, and accepting that his perceptions and behaviors are an aspect of his BPD and less about you than about him. There's information about using tools on this board to relate to him. It also involves not tolerating verbal or emotional abusive behavior from him- leaving the room, not engaging in circular discussions. Your user name is a good description- stay calm in the storm. His emotions are an internal storm sometimes but this is a part of who he is.

That your adult son isn't speaking to him- this is unfortunately one possible consequence of having a parent with BPD. I am the adult child of a mother with BPD and while I didn't stop communication with her, I kept an emotional distance. It wasn't something I would have ever wanted to do with a parent, but children have their own experiences, that may be different from the spouse/partner. This is his own process for how to deal with that. One thing he risks by having boundaries is his father- and then possibly you, rejecting him. That's not what he wants. Please don't react to this and also don't force him to have a relationship with his father if he can't at the moment. It may not be forever, and possibly one day he might feel safer to engage again. For now, he doesn't feel safe.

We don't know all the reasons why someone has BPD, but having a family member with a disorder or addiction can affect how a family functions and it's possible that other family members have some kind of issue as well. You have seen the family your H grew up in. This isn't to blame them. The parents may have grown up in family dysfunction too. You are aware that your H's family isn't going to be helpful, so stay polite and cordial when you are around them but don't look to them to be a support system in this situation. A therapist can be a good support to you.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2025, 10:24:59 AM »

Thank you so much for your response, I really appreciate it. One thing I was thinking, for about the year before we split I didn't argue anymore, or at least tried. So id let him rant and not react, but this seemed to intensify things as he wanted a response, maybe felt like I didn't care, I don't know? I just don't want to make things worse.
How do you keep the relationship going with your mother. I'm very close with our son and have always found it difficult as husband was always resentful of any attention I gave him. Of course, I wanted him to join in and us to be a family, but that never seemed to be an option.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2025, 11:51:56 AM »



How do you keep the relationship going with your mother. I'm very close with our son and have always found it difficult as husband was always resentful of any attention I gave him. Of course, I wanted him to join in and us to be a family, but that never seemed to be an option.

Both my parents are deceased now. I think the relationship with my mother evolved over time. I gained more understanding of her BPD, and had empathy for her, and also learned how to have boundaries. How your son is managing now may also change over time.

You are in a similar situation that my father was in. In addition, you have a lot of influence with, your son, as he probably sees you as the "normal" parent.

I encourage you to read up on the Karpman triangle https://www.bpdfamily.com/content/karpman-drama-triangle. BPD seems to affect the closest and most intimate relationships the most but I think children are next in line to closeness after the partner. For some reason (not a rational one) a pwBPD seems to feel threatened by the partner's relationship with other close family members. PwBPD perceive themselves in Victim perspective. The expectation is that the romantic partner take Rescuer position and whoever the pwBPD feels is a potential focus that might take away attention to them from the partner is in Persecutor position.

As a child, I was more compatible with my father. We shared some similar interests. My mother sometimes did show her dislike of this connection. I wanted my parents to think well of me, especially my father.

After leaving home, during visits to my parents, I complied with BPD mother, walked on eggshells. I wanted the visits to go well. Eventually I felt the need to have boundaries with her behavior- for my own children and myself. She got angry at me over this.

BPD mother pulled my father "to her side" and that changed our relationship. He passed away after that.  I did keep contact with my BPD mother after  this time and eventually stepped into the position of assisting her in her elder years- but from a distance (I don't live near where she did). I did visit her to the extent it was manageable.

You may feel you need to align with your H over your relationship with him, in order to keep the peace but know that he can't get his father's unconditional approval or love in the way a son would want that- but he believes he can have yours.

Your son is staying away for his own emotional protection. IMHO, the better chance of being a more intact family is for you and your H to work on your own issues first. Please maintain your connection to your son. He needs to know that at least one parent loves him unconditionally. Don't blame yourself for who his father is. I'm sure that you had no idea when you first fell in love. You are also doing the best you can with it. Trust that your son is too.

As to deciding to not argue with your H before you left - that actually isn't a bad strategy. I can relate to the arguing, the emotional drama, as being a part of the relationship. When I lessened my emotional reactions to my BPD mother- our relationship felt a bit more distant. But this doesn't mean your marriage depends on drama. You can learn to emotionally react less, not JADE, not get into circular arguments. You can learn other ways to communicate with him, to the extent possible.
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