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« on: June 07, 2017, 12:54:25 PM »

Recently at the age of 32 I discovered that my moms destructive, impulsive behaviour actually has a name - BPD! I have 3 kids and an absolute gem
Of a hubby but I am so tired of her taking over our live! She thinks that boundaries are totally unnecessary and that I am making everything a bigger deal than it needs to be. She wants us all to be one family and she wants to control everything! She does not comply with anything we ask her about the kids - she hates taking "orders" she says - and she keeps on putting me on guilt trips about how she was a stay at hom mom for me and stuff like that. I so badly dont want to be anything like her, she nearly destroyed my live. But I do not want to cut her out of our lives. I need help to handle the situation!
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 01:11:45 AM »

Sounds like she lives close,  yes?

What communication strategies have you tried thus far? We can help with that.  How old are your kids,  and are they aware of any abnormal behaviors?

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 03:29:18 PM »

Read up on boundaries. These are invaluable. First of all, when you decide to utilize boundaries, you (and your gem of a husband  ) sit down and decide what your family core values are. Then, you decide what you will do if someone, anyone - not just Mom, tries to violate your new boundaries.

Consider:
1) My core values are that I expect respect towards me, my husband and my children. In my home, disrespect will be met with an invitation to leave - immediately. If we are elsewhere, I and my family will leave a disrespectful situation.
2) My core values are that my rules for my children are sufficient. Violation of my rules is a sign of disrespect. The children will have limited visitation with anyone who violates my rules.


See, you don't try to control your mother's bad behavior. You just give consequences that you can follow through on consistently. No stating of the rules is needed. She is rude to you at your home, 'Mom, it's time for you to go now.' She is rude to you at her home, 'Mom, I'm leaving now. I'll call you later.'

When my mother became absolutely out of control, I finally had to be no-contact with her for a while. When my son (Then 4 years old) asked why he doesn't see his Nana anymore, I told him - Nana was mean to me and your father. She's having a time-out. When she can be nice, we'll visit and invite her over again. That took two years. And, because of some backslides, we're still very low contact.

This is about what you cannot and will not tolerate anymore. Name it. Define it. Decide on reliable consequences when it appears. Children understand a lot when they've been getting consistent messages from you and hubby about what makes a family and how a family treat each other. You can do this without naming Grandma. Enforcing those boundaries allows your kids to see self-protection and protection of them as children. They also learn that blood is no reason to put up with behavior that violates THEIR boundaries!
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 11:24:35 PM »

This discussion can help you form boundaries in the way SPINSC is sharing. It's worth quoting all of the initial post. Click on the quote link to go to the full thread. 

This thread is about "examples".  In this thread we will discuss your value, your boundaries and how to defend your boundaries.
 
For some background information with more depth, there is a great discussion regarding the 3 types of boundaries (mental, emotional, physical) that everyone should read on this thread:
 
BOUNDARIES: Upholding our values and independence
 
Remember, our values and the boundaries of those values aren't about someone else. They are about how we choose to live our lives.
 
I have an eye analogy.  Eyelids play an important role in protecting our vision, right?  In this case, vision is the value.  To have good vision, dirt and dust are seen as harmful to the eye - thus we need a boundary to keep our eyes safe. Eyelids block the dirt and push the dust out - this is our boundary defense in action.
 
Eyelids don't try to control or punish or change the dirt, they just protect the "vision", consistently, day in, day out - often in subtle ways, sometimes in very visible ways - 400 million times in a lifetime.
 
Relating our boundary defenses back to the value is very important.  If we don't do this, we run the risk of loosing sight of our objective - and we may make matters worse. To be constructive, we need to have realistic values and we need to understand what our responsibilities are if we want to truly live them. Talk is cheap.
 
There are 3 parts, the values we have, the boundaries of those values, and the actions we take when the boundaries are threatened.
 
Some examples:

Value:Important aspect of life that I commit to live fully.
Boundary:Defining what falls outside of my value, what is unacceptable.
Action:One of the options I have when a boundary is threatened.

Value:I treat everybody with respect
Boundary:It is not respectful to dominate or control by screaming
Action:Communicate my values. Lead by example (education - proactive)

Value:I treat everybody with respect
Boundary:It is not respectful to dominate or control by screaming
Action:When a hot topics begin to simmer, I redirect the discussion to a safer topic.  (incident avoidance - proactive).

Value:I treat everybody with respect
Boundary:It is not respectful to dominate or control by screaming
Action:I will take a time out or hang up (incident avoidance - reactive).

Value:I treat everybody with respect
Boundary:One cannot be respected in a consistently verbally abusive environment.
Action:I will remove myself permanently from the environment or until there is change (total avoidance).
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From the example above you can see that a value has many boundaries.  There are also many ways to defend your boundary.  :)efenses can be as simple as communicating and educating the other person.  It can be a comprehensive as leaving a relationship.
 
In all of these cases I am "not" telling the other person how to behave, what to do or not do or in any way trying to dictate to them how to live their life.  I am telling them how "I" behave, how "I" live.  I am clearly controlling that which I can -- myself.
 
Lets look at some boundaries that are being stepped over in your life. Can you break them down in terms of the value, boundary, and defenses?
 
Some questions:
 
* What are you doing now (defenses)?
 
* How is it working?
 
* Is it possible you sent mixed messages, in actions or words or inconsistency, about your value?
 
* During a calm moment, have you worked with your partner to try to find a solution together?
 
* Have you worked to educate your partner?




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