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« on: June 22, 2017, 07:23:59 PM »

So I have been doing a lot of introspection and with the help of therapy and some really interesting books I have finally decided to open the dark closet of my life I knew existed but never wanted to look at. I thought I'd share it here for those who are interested/trying to gain their own self-awareness.

My father does love my mother but I think he learned from his father that the responsibility of the father is to the children first and foremost. My father sacrificed for me and my brothers to almost superhuman feats (As did my mom). But my father tended to neglect my mom's need for intimacy and just overall romance/love. I remember my mom screaming at him at night which would wake me up as she told him she needed love and attention from him and he would sit there in silence.

What did I do as I got older (in my teens)? I started to help my mom clean around the house. I started to go out with her on weekends to shop or go to bookstores where we would just browse around. I became my mom's best friend. Deep down, I wanted to help her from her emotions. This definitely set me up as an adult to do two things. 1. Swear that any woman I was with would be treated like a queen like how I believed my dad should have treated my mom. 2. I was naturally drawn now to women who needed rescuing or who really wanted my attention and sacrifices and really built me up with kind words because of those things I was doing.

To go back even longer to my childhood. This just occured to me two nights ago as I read the book "how to break your addiction to a person." My mother agreed to work overnight at the hospital as soon as me and my brothers were born. The logic, from my father, was that we shouldn't have to go to daycare (sadly the daycare probably would have helped me more with what I'm about to describe). I remember before I went to any type of schooling I would watch my brothers leave for school and my dad leave for work. Then my mom would come home and make sure I was alright. She would then go to sleep and told me to come up and wake her up if she really needed me in an emergency. So how did I spend crucial formative years of my youth? By myself. It probably explains my introvert nature but, and I absolute hate to admit this, I wasn't really shown attention or love. I didn't want to disturb anything. So how did I learn to feel good and gain attention? By doing good for others.

And with my father if I did well in sports or school it was par the course. The only attention I would get to an extreme was if I got a bad grade or didn't have a good game of baseball. I know he just wanted me to succeed and thrive but he was unaware how that affects a child's development. But I wouldn't stand up to him. So what would happen when my ex would raise her voice or tell me what to do on those rare instances? I'd shrink and cower and obey.

And after all of this a part of me does hurt. Because had I known all this maybe I could have set healthier boundaries with my ex and maybe we could have made it work. Instead it played right into my care-taking role. For 2 years between relationships I really believed I learned to love myself. I loved being alone again and was very self-sufficient emotionally. But I had failed to pay attention/gain insight into my relationship patterns which I guess primed me for another BPD relationship. I did notice some behaviors and tried to set some boundaries but I obviously failed. Oh well. Just wanted to share.

It's painful to admit that the loving parents and perfect parents I had were not. I don't blame them. It's what they learned and how could they have any idea any of this would have played such a role in my development. But I know it's growth. I know it's something I needed to face about myself. Thanks for reading.
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 02:28:26 AM »

Hi roberto516,

I was touched reading your personal inventory. Thank you for sharing. I can relate to it very much. I was, and am, very close to my mother. My father was physically absent until the age of 7, then emotionally absent after he moved in with us. I have only recently discovered that I must have felt alone growing up, although I had a good upbringing and my mom was always there for me. I think I know why now, but this is not the place to go into it.  Smiling (click to insert in post) Just wanted to let you know that I share some of your feelings.

What did I do as I got older (in my teens)? I started to help my mom clean around the house. I started to go out with her on weekends to shop or go to bookstores where we would just browse around. I became my mom's best friend. Deep down, I wanted to help her from her emotions. This definitely set me up as an adult to do two things. 1. Swear that any woman I was with would be treated like a queen like how I believed my dad should have treated my mom. 2. I was naturally drawn now to women who needed rescuing or who really wanted my attention and sacrifices and really built me up with kind words because of those things I was doing.

It really makes a lot of sense. And naturally, you would try to take the opportunities to recreate, and then effect a different outcome to, the situation you couldn't change as a child.

So how did I spend crucial formative years of my youth? By myself. It probably explains my introvert nature but, and I absolute hate to admit this, I wasn't really shown attention or love. I didn't want to disturb anything. So how did I learn to feel good and gain attention? By doing good for others.

This breaks my heart for little roberto.    Yes, doing good for others to gain attention and love. I think many of us here can say a big fat yes to that. Learning to value ourselves simply for being, not doing, can be such a challenge. I'm working on it, too.

And after all of this a part of me does hurt.

Of course it does.   

For 2 years between relationships I really believed I learned to love myself. I loved being alone again and was very self-sufficient emotionally. But I had failed to pay attention/gain insight into my relationship patterns which I guess primed me for another BPD relationship.

This is a very good insight. That emotional self-sufficiency and feeling good alone is something I know very well, too. Then, when I enter a relationship, suddenly the vulnerable heartandwhole who needs love and care comes out full force—yikes!

How can we continue to grow emotionally when we are not in an intimate relationship? Is that the time to strengthen boundaries, practice self-care, build other types of relationships? I struggle with this, because romantic relationships seem to be THE accelerators for emotional growth, in my experience.

It's painful to admit that the loving parents and perfect parents I had were not. I don't blame them. It's what they learned and how could they have any idea any of this would have played such a role in my development. But I know it's growth. I know it's something I needed to face about myself. Thanks for reading.

It IS growth, roberto516. And I think part of the grieving process is realizing that we often didn't have the environment we needed growing up. It's a difficult and painful lesson, but also a liberating one. With experience, and hopefully wisdom, my empathy and understanding for my parents have grown. That doesn't negate the hurt inside me, but it gives it context and helps me stay connected to them and myself.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 05:57:28 AM »

This is a very good insight. That emotional self-sufficiency and feeling good alone is something I know very well, too. Then, when I enter a relationship, suddenly the vulnerable heartandwhole who needs love and care comes out full force—yikes!

How can we continue to grow emotionally when we are not in an intimate relationship? Is that the time to strengthen boundaries, practice self-care, build other types of relationships? I struggle with this, because romantic relationships seem to be THE accelerators for emotional growth, in my experience.

Thank you for your reply heartandwhole. But especially this. When she said she needed to work on herself and not be in a relationship I kept trying to speak to her about how the real growth and working on herself (and myself) could really come through the relationship and working on it. I learned this first hand in between relationships. As you said, "relationship me" was lying dormant even though "alone me" was really growing.

She has no problem doing what she wants when she wants to without a care for anyone else. A part of me hurts when I think that all she is doing is either focusing on herself and being single or finding someone to repeat the pattern. I don't see where the growth is coming from. But that's not my problem anymore as painful as it is (me wanting to rescue ). I just wish she would have seen exactly what we both see. That we could grow immensely together and through ourselves while working on the relationship. But alas, this wasn't someone who had the same insight or response to uncomfortable feelings as me. It was black or white. Either the relationship was perfect or it wasn't. And when it wasn't she got out.

Thanks for the reply though. I appreciate it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 01:31:31 AM »

Hi Roberto

I want to thank you for sharing. It's been enlightening to me. I really admire the growth and self awareness of where you're at now. I've learnt a lot from reading your posts.

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So how did I learn to feel good and gain attention? By doing good for others.

I normally stay on Parenting. I'll dip out occasionally and run back in scared. The last time was to Detaching and I had my light bulb moment. I think most of on the forum have this one thing in common and it's caused us so much grief  I need to feel I'm a good person and I go too far than is necessary, too far for my own good.

I too was left during the day. I have always had an inate need to be "good". In fact my older cousin even teased me as a young child as I was the "sweet little one". I've spent my entire life striving to be a good wife, good daughter, granddaughter, sister and mother. I put myself in a position where I was overloaded with their needs. I guess this stems from low self esteem and lack of confidence. I felt I didn't deserve better.

We all deserve better Roberto. We all deserve happiness.

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