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« on: May 06, 2018, 07:31:44 AM »

So, I have been posting lately in the Familu Law, etc. board because the discussion that I need a divorce is coming in the next few weeks with uBPDw.  I’m getting great advice and input on the actions I need to take, but the emotional side is really grinding me down.

I have been pushing myself so hard to give her more time to build her business and get further into her DBT.  Not in the hopes that these things will save the marriage—I have already determined that those feelings just cannot be revived/repaired/restored for me.  I just want her to have the best chance of getting through it all without seriously self-destructing.  Plus, she has a major birthday coming up and I really don’t want to ruin that for her by telling her before that.  Her birthday is very important to her.

So daily I’m filled with anxiety that she will find out I am ready to call an end to our marriage.  By finding out I am setting up a consultation with a L. My anxiety is also triggered when she tries to get closer to me, tries to talk through some of our problems and get me to open up more to her emotionally.  It’s so hard to keep up the facade—and also really frustrating to me that she continues pressuring me on the emotional piece when she said she understands I need space due to the damaging dynamic we have had for years.  Still, I can tell how hard she is working to make things better, and it makes me feel like a horrible person because I just can’t go there anymore.

And something that bothers me most is that this emotional stress is manifesting itself in me primarily as numbness. Like last week... .I was getting really antsy and caught up in my own head, ruminanting over all kinds of things.  Worrying and stressing, and feeling the strong need to talk through it with my T.  And once I finally got in her office, I locked down completely.  She would talk to me and try to help me think about making specific plans (since doing so would help my anxiety), and I would reply but the emotions were shut down. Flat affect and everything.  I was ready to break down almost as soon as I walked in the door, but then I just retreated into that numbness and missed an opportunity to get some real help.

My T says I will probably experience a very strong sense of relief once I tell uBPDw that it’s over and can be open about where I stand.  That may be so, but I’m worried about the floodgates that might open in me of emotions I’m not equipped to ha doe very well at all... .and the emotional sh*tstorm that will follow as we plod through the realities of separating. Once that reality comes, I think I’m going to be a mess, and I don’t know how to deal with that.

Thanks for reading... .I needed to get that out.
mw
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2018, 08:19:39 AM »

Hi mama-wolf,

What are the concrete reasons you have to wait to tell her?

Is it possible that telling her now, and facing the fallout, could actually make you feel better?

We can’t avoid all the storms, and the blockages you are experiencing seem to be getting to be too much. Is that right? Maybe you’ve reached the tipping point on this? Time for the reveal?

I can relate to some of what you say. I am not all the way decided to leave, but I am leaning that way. Holding in what I think can be overwhelming and makes me numb out too.

with compassion,

pearl.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2018, 12:27:04 PM »

What are the concrete reasons you have to wait to tell her?

If I had to list them out, I’d say they are:

1) Give uBPDw a little more time with DBT and medication management.  Up until even a few weeks ago, she was having suicide ideation, and I am very concerned this news is going to send her into a tailspin.
2) Give myself time to put a plan together... .consult with a L, figure out financial steps, make arrangements for the kids that night/weekend, get my T’s help figuring out what/how to even say what I need to say when the time comes... .
2) Don’t ruin Mother’s Day
3) Don't ruin uBPDw’s milestone birthday later in the month.  Feels like the least I can do is not have this overshadow/cause her to cancel the party she wants to have

Is it possible that telling her now, and facing the fallout, could actually make you feel better?

I’m pretty sure this is what my T has been working me toward... .at the very least, telling her sooner rather than later.  I had initially planned to wait until later in the summer, but that’s just not going to be good for me at all.  And yes, ultimately I would feel better to get it out in the open now, but the short-term gain does not seem to outweigh the longer-term costs to me... .

the blockages you are experiencing seem to be getting to be too much. Is that right?

The thing is, they don’t feel like too much in the moment... .I’m just getting more and more concerned about my own internal fallout after it all goes down.  I’m really trying to listen to my T and not let this go on any longer than absolutely necessary, and yet I really don’t know how I’m going to handle all the emotional processing I’m going to have to go through afterward.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 08:36:40 AM »

Something that keeps coming to mind from the last session with my T is that she observed I was acting pretty stoic during that session.  She observed that it seems like things are about self-preservation above all else.  It left me wondering if this is a manifestation of the trauma she believes I have been through in this relationship. 

It's really hard for me to even entertain the idea that I have been traumatized.  I haven't been beaten or called names.  It's only relatively recently that I have been yelled at.   But there's something there beyond the situational anxiety caused by me living in this situation and not being able to be honest yet about how I feel.   I have to acknowledge that the emotional manipulation--and abuse of some sort--has been pervasive for years. 

Over the past week or so, I have been experiencing this persistent mild queasiness.  It has really ramped up today.  I think maybe because I am actually now in contact with a L and the consultation is booked for this afternoon.

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2018, 09:20:15 AM »

Hi mama-wolf,

Thank you for sharing! I can see that are you trying to balance her needs and your own. I think that is very kind of you, and it sounds like you will be able to find the right moment to make the reveal.

What do you expect the reaction to be like? Worst case scenario? Best case?

You have us all here to process with - we're listening! We care and want you to feel better! Breakups are tough, no way around it, but for each of those moments you just keep us looped in. Smiling (click to insert in post)

Do you want to talk more about the things that led to you being traumatized? (Lately, myself, I've had intrusive thoughts and I realize there is a lot of unprocessed stuff inside me too.) Hearing what you are going through is so insightful and always gives me so much to think about/reconsider!

wishing you peace, pearl.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 12:46:18 PM »

Thanks, pearl... .

What do you expect the reaction to be like? Worst case scenario? Best case?

I cannot tell her alone, because I know things will fly off the rails pretty immediately.  I plan to do it in couples session in a few weeks so that the MC can help keep some control over the situation.  As far as her reaction... .

    Best case: She'll understand that this has been coming for a while now (even if she's upset about it) and recognize that I have tried so hard to give things a chance to turn around.  She'll go home--or to a friend's house--and work through her feelings over the next few days, and come into the following week prepared to discuss separation arrangements.  In my state, you have to live apart for one year before you can file for divorce.

    Worst case: She will completely fall apart, leave the couples session and find a way to hurt herself.  I don't think she would damage property, but worry that she will rage a lot.  She may panic and take the limited money from our account (I'm currently working on the best approach to protect finances without triggering/escalating her behavior).  She'll vilify me to her family, and make things as difficult as possible for us to actually separate.

I am trying to figure out a script for how to say what I need to say without inviting her desire to argue against my feelings or try to convince me otherwise.  Input is invited!

    uBPDw, I need to tell you and MC that I just can't continue anymore.  I know you're aware I have been struggling with my feelings in this marriage.  I have been working hard with my T, trying to change the way I feel and give it a chance to get better, but I think I have just been in denial of where I am.  I know you have been working very hard, too, and I have absolutely seen your progress, but I just can't get past this.  The work we have both been doing will be so important for us to continue co-parenting together.   

I do need to be sure to tell her we will make arrangements that help her get on her feet as part of our separation.  That will of course be a huge fear... .how she'll make ends meet since she's just starting up her business.

Do you want to talk more about the things that led to you being traumatized? (Lately, myself, I've had intrusive thoughts and I realize there is a lot of unprocessed stuff inside me too.) Hearing what you are going through is so insightful and always gives me so much to think about/reconsider!

It's hard for me to pin it down.   As I have tried to explore and better understand my T's observation, I found an article about behaviors that constitute psychological abuse (https://psychcentral.com/blog/21-warning-signs-of-an-emotionally-abusive-relationship/?li_source=LI&li_medium=popular17). I have bolded elements that I have experienced for years and added my comments in parentheses.  The problem for me is that they were always so subtle, and it has taken a very long time for me to finally start recognizing the behavior.  Between years of this, and some very explosive arguments and upsetting behaviors from her, I take it this is what my T believes has caused me trauma. 

1) Humiliating or embarrassing you.
2) Constant put-downs.  (She very frequently shares her opinion about something she doesn't like about me, but most often hides it in a joke... .she'll comment about how I look/smell too sweaty after I exercise,  or say my breath is bad, or talk about what a turn-off something I'm wearing is to her)
3) Hypercriticism. (She always has something to say and typically some contradictory argument back to me about what I do, what I think about something, or even just her own general observations about the world in general)
4) Refusing to communicate.
5) Ignoring or excluding you.
6) Extramarital affairs.
7) Provocative behavior with opposite sex.
8) Use of sarcasm and unpleasant tone of voice.  (Whenever she gets angry with me, the argument is laced with sarcasm and her tone gets very unpleasant... .then she denies that she was being mean because the words she actually said were not mean)
9) Unreasonable jealousy.
10) Extreme moodiness. (Pretty standard borderline trait)
11) Mean jokes or constantly making fun of you. (Subtle, and as with the put-downs always cloaked in the excuse of helping me be able to laugh at myself and not take myself too seriously)
12) Saying “I love you but…”
13) Saying things like “If you don’t _____, I will_____.”
14) Domination and control.  (She micromanages so much!)
15) Withdrawal of affection.
16) Guilt trips.
17) Making everything your fault.
18) Isolating you from friends and family. (This has gotten slightly better lately as I have been standing up for my boundaries, but our history over the years has been to pull away from spending time with family and friends, either because we're not spending as much time with her family as with mine, or because the idea of spending that time is "too stressful" because she feels like we have too much going on as a family.  Or if it's just for me to go and spnd)
19) Using money to control. (Not a direct control effort, but she spends and spends, and doesn't follow through on budgeting, so I'm left feeling responsible for making sure we stay afloat)
20) Constant calling or texting when you are not with him/her. (Some days, she will text and text, in addition to sending multiple different emails about different topics... .and if I haven't answered all of them, I get told she feels ignored or dismissed)
21) Threatening to commit suicide if you leave.  (She didn't threaten this to me directly, but has shared that she has had suicidal thoughts, and said in a therapy session I attended with her that if our relationship were to end that would be the most likely thing to push her to follow through.  And she has made a comment to me that her life wouldn't have any purpose if we weren't together)

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