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« on: September 14, 2018, 05:26:19 PM »

So, I just received the first call from my mom from the hospital since I had her involuntarily committed earlier this week. (see my posts, "All hell breaking loose... .Feel my mind losing it... .**UBPD loved one**" and Legal guardianship over loved one (especially if parent) with BPD or uBPD... .? from earlier)

She tells me that the psychiatrist is leaning towards having her admitted as longer-term inpatient after tomorrow out of concern of her hurting herself, to which my mom apparently kept vehemently rejecting any intention to do so. And she essentially wants me to claim the same for her and to basically convince them to let her go and she'll just leave my brother and I alone and go stay a few hours away with her sister and just proceed to be taken care of by her and her best friend who lives in another part of the country.

Of course I can't do that. And I tell her that and that I think she should just try this out -- just be open to the process and see what happens. To let them help her. That it's the one thing we haven't tried yet, and it couldn't hurt. She's convinced that it will and that it will only make her worse -- that she'll really "lose it" in a "mental institution." I told her she'll only lose it and it won't go well if she has that mindset about it and that she should try.

She also mentioned bills she has to take care of and that if she does this and for no telling how long and then comes back out later, she'll really have nothing and will have to start from scratch. I told her we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I remind her that she just pressed charges on me earlier this week for something that didn't happen so clearly something isn't right with her. Of course she tries to argue with me about that, saying we have our own versions of what happen and that we would just have to talk about that in counseling. I'm like (-__-) ok.

Of course nothing I was saying to her was what she wanted to hear and just basically kept wanting me to help her to leave, saying all that she need is "love," not to be there. I'm like but you've had love. Lots of it. And you can and will continue to but also with professionals there to help along the way.

I also suggested she let the doctors be able to provide me with information and updates on her so I'll know where she'll go, what's going on with her, etc. in case she does end up going that route and that that was the best I could do. But again, nothing that was what she wanted to hear.

I'm writing this post because ugggghhh... .With her in certain situations, this being one of them, I tend to feel so much like the abused wife. Feels like my abusive husband just called begging for me to bail him out of jail or to speak on his behalf to help him get out of prison... .or out of rehab. And I know why he's there and that it's for the best... .for everyone. And yet I still feel bad. And a small part of me is tempted. Uggh... .

I keep having to remind myself that I didn't do this. She did. We tried everything. EVERYthing. Nothing worked. And she's so stubborn, un-self-aware, arrogant, manipulative, power-obsessed, control-obsessed, and proud that trying to rely on her to help herself to get better psychologically and emotionally I feel almost convinced now would likely never happen... .and in the meantime, she'll continue to terrorize and drain (mentally, emotionally, and financially) those around her who love her and always feel obligated to help. I feel like this has to happen. Or that we at least have to try.

And yet still... .I feel bad.

UGH.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 05:45:23 PM »

Hi RJ    

Reading your post everything I thought to suggest you had already said to your mother.  This is the only option.  Of course you feel bad.  Any one would.  She is your mother and you obviously care.  Plus you have invested a lot over the years in terms of helping her.  It has become a regular part of your life and your mindset.  Letting that go and putting her in the hands of professionals is going to be very difficult but it is so necessary.

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I keep having to remind myself that I didn't do this. She did. We tried everything. EVERYthing. Nothing worked. And she's so stubborn, un-self-aware, arrogant, manipulative, power-obsessed, control-obsessed, and proud that trying to rely on her to help herself to get better psychologically and emotionally I feel almost convinced now would likely never happen... .and in the meantime, she'll continue to terrorize and drain (mentally, emotionally, and financially) those around her who love her and always feel obligated to help. I feel like this has to happen. Or that we at least have to try.
Yes.  Read this over and over if you have to.

Have you been able to rest at all?
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 09:25:39 PM »

Hi RJ    

Reading your post everything I thought to suggest you had already said to your mother.  This is the only option.  Of course you feel bad.  Any one would.  She is your mother and you obviously care.  Plus you have invested a lot over the years in terms of helping her.  It has become a regular part of your life and your mindset.  Letting that go and putting her in the hands of professionals is going to be very difficult but it is so necessary.
 Yes.  Read this over and over if you have to.

Have you been able to rest at all?


THANK YOU.

These are the things that I need to continue to hear. I also spoke with my best friend earlier tonight, and she said much of the same as well and that it's time for me to focus on me. And that she will be alright.

Thank God for all types of support. I don't know what I would do without it... .truly.

With the feelings of guilt, I told my friend that I think I might actually look into joining a local battered women's support group. Seems crazy to think of going to one when this isn't my husband or boyfriend and the "abuser" in my case never actually puts her hands on me, but I super feel like I can relate to what they must feel in their own situations.

I have been able to rest some, but I tend to be a night owl and stay up really late only to turn around and wake up just a few hours later, so in the greater scheme of things and especially with what's been going on with her this week, likely nowhere near the amount of rest that I should. Or I know it hasn't been anywhere near as much as I should.

I'm in a region that some of the hurricane is supposed to hit (although not as bad in my immediate area), so I plan on taking advantage of staying stay from that and a lot of the city shutting down this weekend to stay at home, rest up, and try to relax. Try.

Thank you so much for your ongoing support, Harri! You are too kind and thoughtful. It's soo super appreciated
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 09:46:30 PM »

RJ, it may not feel like it but you are doing so well. 

I am a bit north of the hurricane area so I am safe but this rain and cloudiness has been a drag.  Not that i should complain though as I am not at risk for flooding.  I hope you get some rest even if you only lie down.

Letting go is so hard.  Have you checked out our article on Mindfulness?  You might find it helpful in addition to your support systems.  Triggering, Mindfulness and Wise Mind.  I don't think you are being triggered but I wonder if the mindfulness and wise mind parts might apply?

Breathe.  You've got this.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 10:04:07 PM »

RJ, it may not feel like it but you are doing so well. 

I am a bit north of the hurricane area so I am safe but this rain and cloudiness has been a drag.  Not that i should complain though as I am not at risk for flooding.  I hope you get some rest even if you only lie down.

Letting go is so hard.  Have you checked out our article on Mindfulness?  You might find it helpful in addition to your support systems.  Triggering, Mindfulness and Wise Mind.  I don't think you are being triggered but I wonder if the mindfulness and wise mind parts might apply?

Yes, more than likely. Lol

When some refer to BPD as a crazy-making condition, they aren't kidding! I've felt on the brink of insanity on several occasions this week. I joked with my best friend earlier that I might not be too far behind my mom in that hospital in the minute!

I really do have to focus more on myself and to finally prioritize getting and seeing my own therapist regularly because... .this is way, wayyyy too much. But in the meantime, your and others' here, as well as my brother's and friends', support all profoundly help. I'm too grateful for it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 10:53:07 PM »

I knew I was forgetting something!

I think you do 'qualify' to attend a DV group.  Seriously, the manipulation, threats and emotional and verbal abuse is exactly that.  You are the second person I am referring to this thread this evening: https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=304172

It contains a link to the MOSAIC assessment and can be quite enlightening as to the risk you are under from your mom.  You may have to extrapolate as it is not specifically designed for and adult/adult parent relationship but the info you can get from it can be quite helpful.  also there is a lot of info on there about DV and I think you may find it enlightening.

Something to think about.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2018, 07:13:54 PM »

Hey RJ2018,

Just popping in to check on you today and to share a  . I cannot imagine all this that you are going through. Please keep reaching out to us and sharing. You desperately need those around you who understand.

 
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