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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: February 02, 2019, 12:02:22 AM »

Sorry if this is in the wrong section first time poster here. I could really use some insight. I really don't even know where to begin. I have been no contact with my diagnosed BPD wife for over a year. We got married in 3 months time of knowing each other, everything was moving so fast, I have never been in a relationship this intense in my whole 39 years if life.


We were only married 9 months at first all was great the relationship was like a giant super high of exciting emotions. Then around the 6 month mark give or take. It was like she was a completely different person and so so mean all the time and blaming me for evertyhing I mean everything and then turning around making it all my fault. Almost like I was the reason for everything in her life that was bad.


Then extreme anger came I have never seen someone so ugly in my life. She would tell me to just go kill myself but don't get any blood on the carpet, why are you even still with me no one can ever love me you should just go I don't care where just go. I didn't know she had an illness till she told me in a rage I would get upset and try not to fight with her but man did she push my buttons. We would be all lovey dovey for a while then she would be mean again and go days without talking to me. She would fight with her mom and shut her out for months saying she hated her then back to my mom is the best thing in the world like what the heck? that's your mom. She even got her mom to dislike me when at first her mom loved me. Then came the next chapter about 2 months later.


The calling of the police every day she would call them, I would be in the other room and boom cops are here I didn't even know she was calling the police. long story short they came about 6 more times that week. Then the day came when it was a cop that showed up with a temporary RO. So out I went like Tuesdays trash. It got thrown out in court but I read some of the things she put in here statment I abuse them and the animals I keep everyone locked up with no water like what the heck? the cops came daily if that was the case I would of been arrested.


Anyway on to my point sorry for the long rant. She has been in no contact for over a year and I am still married to this woman, she has even been in a 6 month relationship to which she moved the girl in from another state in 3 months time to live with her all while still being married to me. The relationship failed but that's besides the point. She filed for divorce October 2017 while we were still living together but I was already out of the house due to temp RO so it basically got served to our marital home and I was gone. Why has she not tried to reserve me or move the divorce along? I called the court house and the lady said nothing has been done with this case since it has been opened. She wanted out so bad and now is not finsihing anything *shakes head*. I am new to people with this illness as I didn't know she had it till later in our marriage. A year later and I'm still confused I don't get any of her actions. How was she so cold and mean? I ask about the divorce and silence, and it was only ever divorce related. I stopped asking her and just stayed no contact for 9 months now. I never begged and only contacted her 3 times since I left and that was just about the divorce. Any info would be appreciated as I am so lost to how someone could act this way and want to keep someone in limbo or punish them with silence. If you want a divorce don't normal people get a divorce? No kids, no joint anything. I do not want the divorce so this is why I have not filed but I think I am high on hopium and need to just take action myself.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 12:49:07 PM »

Hi Darkstar321,

Welcome

A year later and I'm still confused I don't get any of her actions. How was she so cold and mean? I ask about the divorce and silence, and it was only ever divorce related. I stopped asking her and just stayed no contact for 9 months now.

Wow, reading your post described my break-up with my ex almost to a T. I'm sorry for the circumstances that led you to this site. It must have been really hard and confusing for the last year or so if you were left in the dark and had to decipher these mixed messages from your dpwBPD ( diagnosed person with BPD )

I'm glad that you have found us and decided to join, you'll find that you fit right in here, it helps to talk to people that can relate with what you are going through.

There are a couple of BPD behaviours that stick out in your post, the first being the fear of abandonment which is really what everything BPD related revolves around a pwBPD have a fear or aloneness or fear abandonment which doesn't make sense because she was calling the cops on you and wanting you out, it makes sense in the way that they abandon those that they care about before being abandoned themselves which in turn is self destructive behaviour in a r/s which leads to what they fear most.

The other behaviour is splitting as you already know a pwBPD thought patterns are very rigid usually that's a mark for a personality disorder when the thought patterns over a long period of time follow a rigid pattern. A pwBPD have dychotimous thinking or black and white thinking and can't see the grey nuances in the world or in people you're either all good or all bad.

The high that you experienced in the beginning of the r/s is idealization or being seen as all good with a spec of bad qualities as time goes on a pwBPD start to see the bad qualities in the other person until there are no good qualities in that person left - in their mind. It's distorted thinking because a good person has bad qualities and vice versa.

To answer your question about why she hasn't followed through with the divorce ties back into the central theme with BPD - fear of abandonment

she moved the girl in from another state in 3 months time to live with her all while still being married to me. The relationship failed but that's besides the point.

The r/s didn't take she didn't feel like it was safe enough for her to embark on this r/s and proceed with the divorce. She didn't trust that this person was not going to abandon her.

Does make sense?
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 01:38:09 PM »

Thank you so much for replying. I honestly feel like I have been lost in a sense on trying to figure out her behavior. Mainly due to knowing nothing about this illness. I have just started to read up and it and it has led me to here. I get what your saying about fear of abandonment etc. But to me makes no sense . You fear abandonment so much that you leave? I would of never left her I would of helped her thorough anything. Do most just walk away and not take responsibility for their actions? I am a forgiving person in a sense that I know we all have our own issues and make mistakes. With that being said I would of been willing to talk even if was just to finalize the divorce. So I guess once painted black that's it? I mean how can you come back from all the trash talking she did about me to anyone who would listen. Why play the victim I don't see how one could get anything out of that.


I have mixed feelings about wanting her to come back, part of me does but part of me gets a huge amount of anxiety even thinking about it. Not sure I would even take her back after everything she has done. But to be taken out like trash and never spoken to again hurts. I guess part of me wants confirmation that I actually meant something to her. She was never married before and neither was I. All I ever heard her say is I'm only ever getting married once it's a life long commitment, guess she lied . I took our vows seriously I meant every word to her on being a committed partner. Once painted black are you always black to them? She has a history of going back to exes even if as friends but talks bad about all of them. I do not once you are my ex I move on in a healthy way like giving myself time to heal etc. Do they feel the need to feel validated by going back to being friends years later with exes? Nothing wrong with it but she did nothing but trash talk all of them.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 02:49:16 PM »

Do most just walk away and not take responsibility for their actions?

I think that you'll find that you can relate to a lot of people here a lot of us bent our backs backwards and it still wasn't enough to convince a pwBPD that we're not going anywhere because we care and love about them

So I guess once painted black that's it?

No not necessarily. You have noticed how she splits people black and then white it doesn't happen all at once she'll split you white again and some point in the future. I'm sharing from the posts from members that I've read from here over the years some members expwBPD may split them white weeks, months, a year or even more later.

I mean how can you come back from all the trash talking she did about me to anyone who would listen.

You're confused about some of her actions in your first post because of how she can split her mom black then white the same applies here she's not aware of it and it will cause confusion with people but the people that are close to her will continue to have a r/s most likely.

But to be taken out like trash and never spoken to again hurts.

I know its a lot of pain.

I guess part of me wants confirmation that I actually meant something to her.

There are clues, pwBPD will split only the people that they care about most.

I took our vows seriously I meant every word to her on being a committed partner.

You're coming from a point of view that's from a rational mind or a non. She's coming from a point of view that comes from a more primitive part of the brain that regulates fear and aggression - her mind is wired differently.

Do they feel the need to feel validated by going back to being friends years later with exes?

She didn't completely close door on you she has filed for divorce she may come back sooner rather than later but if she finds herself in a new r/s she'll create exit strategies meaning that she is motivate by the fear of abandonment and can't be alone so if the primary r/s fails then she has another r/s to fall back on. BPD is an attachment disorder, you mentioned that you can grieve a r/s detach from it and move on where a pwBPD don't completely detach themselves. That being said once that a new r/s hits rough waters she may idealize you again or hint at becoming friends or try to re-establish a r/s or recycle the r/s.

I guess what I mean is that a break-up from someone that you're with is not necessarily the big one that is the final break-up sometimes there are a lot of break-ups that lead up to the final one. A lot of us recycle the r/s my ex and I seperated several times until finally I triggered her fear of abandonment and she started creating an exit strategy and started an affair with another man while she was married to me. After about a year after they met she was ready to leave, I'm guessing that he convinced her that he wasn't going to leave her if she was going to leave her husband but she kept at arms length while she was still with him. It was a painful experience but several months later while she still married to me and living with him she want to be friends. She even had a baby with him she was still married with me.

So it might be something to explore if you're done with the r/s or not, this is the detaching board where we have a post mortem for the r/s and detach and support each or we have the bettering board if you're not done or we have the undecided board if you're not sure which way you're going to go. Nobody is going to tell you what to choose we're here to listen and help each other.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2019, 04:10:12 PM »

I'm reading your replies and I am in tears. I am so sorry to you or anyone who has been through this. Are you still legally married to her? I know you said you were while she did all those awful things to you. I am sorry she put you through so much pain, I know what you are feeling this is the hardest thing I have had to go through in life so far. I not only lost my wife but I feel I lost a part of me as well. I know I will be ok and time will heal my wounds, but I feel lost at the moment. I am an easy going person who just loves life and thought wow I have finally found the one to spend it with. I never even thought about marriage until I met her. I thank you for taking the time to respond to me it means a lot to me knowing I have people to talk to here who are going through the same things. Again thank you and I hope you are having a wonderful day!
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2019, 04:57:51 PM »

It was the most difficult experience I went through and it's probably the same for most people here. You are right time helps, reading as much as you can about BPD helps, talking about it and giving up hope and detaching helps. I did get divorced it took time and it was one of things that I needed for closure. Although it was the most difficult thing that I went through at the time he did me a favor it was quiet for a few years because he kept her busy they broke up and she was trying to turn my direction for soothing, I didn't miss it, I kept defending my boundaries and she's back to being quiet now I suspect that he's fighting with her and keeping her busy again. There are a lot of positives that came out of this break-up   Have a good day too Darkstar321 Hang in there.
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