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« on: June 10, 2020, 09:54:49 AM »

This community has been so helpful in supporting me, and I know that I have a tendency to only post when things are at their worst. I suspect that's when most of us find this place. But I thought I should weigh in on what it looks like when things are quiet. I know I've found it comforting to read here when others have been in that place.

I hadn't talked to my uBPD mom since Easter of 2018. Trying to make sense of things in the immediate aftermath of that particular rage incident brought me here (and into therapy), where BPD and covert NPD traits described so much.  I have been NC with my mom (aside from greeting cards on holidays), and LC with my dad. They are married, and I gather that he isn't really allowed to talk to me unless she is in the room with him.

Between my father receiving a cancer diagnosis earlier this year and COVID-19, I've spoken to my mother a couple times on the phone. I keep focused on facts, emphasizing that I love them and am concerned for their health, and get off the phone promptly when she starts veering into Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post) territory, e.g. she wants to catastrophize or vent about my father's choice of treatment. (FWIW, his cancer was found very early, and is very treatable.)

Two years ago, I thought about reaching out to an older cousin, but had a lot of reasons not to: What was I seeking, after all? Was I just trying to triangulate in the same way my mom does? Could I trust her, or anyone in my family? Would she be offended about what I was insinuating out my mom, and hers? So I waited until very recently, when I knew I wouldn't be going into that conversation in a very fragile state.

Oh my goodness. I think she had been waiting for that call for years. Her mother and mine are sisters, and share a lot of similar traits. Her mother was diagnosed with BPD many years ago, and has been quite abusive to my cousin who, thankfully, was willing to talk openly about this. I learned about how our grandmother also had a lot of these same emotionally abusive traits, but it dissipated with age and with the death of her abusive, alcoholic husband.

I don't know about you, but I waver back and forth between calling the emotional abuse what it is and gaslighting myself. It was so powerful for someone who knows me, and has seen me interacting with my mother, repeat back to me the things that, deep down, I know to be true. Things like,

"You don't need to apologize for staying away [from extended family]. I assumed, I think we all assumed, you were doing what you needed to do to be safe from your mom."

"I could always sense a tension, just a basic personality conflict, when the two of you are together. You are very rational and logical. Your mom, well, we have all observed or experienced her being extremely emotional and controlling."

"It isn't anything new. Even when you were very small, I watched your mother be extremely controlling of you. Even before you knew it was abusive, she was being abusive."

It was abuse. I'm healing. And it feels good to know that I'm not alone in that process.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2020, 10:41:36 AM »

 Welcome new member (click to insert in post) Sklamath!

I have also been absent from the boards for a long time. Yours is a nice welcoming post. It is beautiful to read how your frame of mind can change over time and help you rekindle old contacts (or even make new ones!). Thank you so much for that!

I hope your father will receive the help he needs and will be able to recover fully.

It must feel so healing and comforting to hear someone who was there and who saw how things were fully acknowledge that what you went through really was abuse. I know for me the doubt and the fear that I am actually the crazy one is always lingering, just out of sight. It can take hold and make me doubt all and every step of progress I have made.

Again, thank you for sharing. I hope you may continue on the path of healing. Don't let the bumps along the way deter you!

 With affection (click to insert in post)
Libra.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 10:27:24 PM »

Thank you for the kind words, Libra, and for the well wishes for my father. I am optimistic.

In case you need to hear it: you are not the crazy one. You are on the path to recovery, and every day is progress.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 08:53:07 AM »

I do think on some level, many of us know we are not the ones to blame, but it does feel good to have that validation from someone else. When I was younger, I sometimes questioned myself, as my uBPDm was an expert at twisting and manipulating. And even though I now know that she is the one with emotional dysregulation, I don't talk to many people outside my family because they don't understand the dynamics. And sometimes I felt others were thinking I should be more compassionate to my mother, after all "she is your mother". But to hear that MY needs are valued and my safety is important feels good.   
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2020, 11:53:40 AM »

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Oh my goodness. I think she had been waiting for that call for years.

I'm really happy for you sklamath that you found a family member with a similar shared experience, where you could also validate each other.  It's one thing to get validation from a T, but it's different I think to get it from family.  I hope I too can reach out one day, and get the same result. 

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And sometimes I felt others were thinking I should be more compassionate to my mother, after all "she is your mother".
I feel this too.  Sometimes I hear the phrase about "honouring thy mother" in different contexts.  Then I wonder if the Bible meant that to include "even when she abuses you".  I also wonder if the people saying those things would still say them even if they had half a clue about what really goes on behind closed doors.

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It was so powerful for someone who knows me, and has seen me interacting with my mother, repeat back to me the things that, deep down, I know to be true.
   Happy for you.  Virtual hug (click to insert in post)
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