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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2023, 08:34:01 PM »

What I care about is growing through whatever stunted me.

I have parented myself for much of my life.

Even as a kid I knew better than to rely on my mom or ask for advice much less take it.

You and me both, and likely most of us here. I think it goes beyond the typical Gen-X "latchkey kid" deal.

Did you also feel Parentified?
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2023, 01:20:39 AM »

I will mix up crepe batter and take it over to her house mid-morning and make crepes.  When that is done, I will have the rest of the day for myself - to recover.
This did not go well.

The breakfast was a nightmare.

I also struggle with the forgiveness piece, "honour thy mother", and societal expectations about taking care of an elderly parent.

I tried so hard.  My whole life, I have tried so hard.

I made breakfast for the family at my mom's house on mother's day.  The idea was to have all her family around her, and my gift to her was to cook the special breakfast at her house (she has chosen waifdom and lost her mobility so she says she can't come to our house any more).

But she is so dysfunctional...I just can't handle being around her.  She puts me into such distress.  By the time the brunch was over, it was 1:00.  As the day went on, other things started to go sideways, and I ended up cooking dinner for my family for various reasons.  After spending the morning with her, I wasn't in a good place to deal with the other things going sideways. I then decided to have a double cocktail followed by too many glasses of wine, for no other reason than to escape my time with her in the morning.  Let's just say at the age of 61 I had too much to drink for the first time in my life.  While I'm not a tee-totaler I have always been responsible, and a sipper.

While I don't hate my mom, I just don't want to be around her.  It distresses me.  Her behavior, the things she does, the insanity of her living situation, her clear inability to live on her own independently, her terrible decisions, and the control and hurt she has inflicted on me over a lifetime of just trying to please her and be the perfect daughter, her meanness... I can see clearly now how I was parentified from the age of 5 (can't remember any earlier).

I resent the obligation she has inflicted on me and my H to support her.  All of society expects us to "take care of her" because she's old and my mother.  Except she never had motherly qualities.

My experience was of an "Un-Mother's Day".  

Everything other families are celebrating on this day (joy and love and self-sacrifice and courage and dedication and protection and everything else that mother's might give), is exactly opposite to our experiences of fear and vengeance and childishness and distemper and selfishness.  

I don't really think it's about forgiveness either.  

I concur with what other's have said here about it being more about moving and growing through our experience and the pain, which looks different for each of us.

I am just taking it one day at a time (and apparently not doing that well by going on a bender for the first (and last) time in my life).  It was a memorable mother's day for all the wrong reasons.
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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2023, 11:59:05 AM »

Your Mother's Day with your mother sounds like your day at the emergency room with your mother. Your body and mind seem to be telling you that you can't tolerate being around your mother for any length of time. What is that length of time?
What I maybe am hearing you say, is there is nothing you can do to please your mother and you will never feel appreciated no matter what you do.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2023, 01:51:54 PM »

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Methuen,
I am wondering if your mother receives any benefits from your doing anything for her on Mother's Day. A family friend had an autistic daughter who as an adult was in an institution. The family wanted to visit her on Thanksgiving and the staff asked the family not to come, saying that their visits made no difference to the girl, and it helped to have no family visits on holidays so more staff could spend time with their families. 
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2023, 02:58:09 PM »

The breakfast was a nightmare.

I also struggle with the forgiveness piece, "honour thy mother", and societal expectations about taking care of an elderly parent.

I tried so hard.  My whole life, I have tried so hard.

But she is so dysfunctional...I just can't handle being around her.  She puts me into such distress.

While I don't hate my mom, I just don't want to be around her.  

Methuen, I am so touched by the way you write, it was very cinematic and vivid to imagine your day, to read between the lines. Like watching a movie where you’re rooting for the main character to walk out of  the kitchen, hop in a camper van, and drive toward the Pacific Ocean with her dog and a flask of whiskey. Huzzah!

It made me think there is an argument for having a Dysfunctional Family day. To celebrate, people make plans then cancel them immediately. Then check into a spa. 

 I have this feeling often, that I would never wish these family experiences on anyone and at the same time am so grateful there are others who are driven to drink just to manage the frayed nerves. .

How long can your body tolerate exposure? I would be curious if there is a number you feel is comfortable. Something between guilt and duty that overlaps with self care. 
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2023, 03:30:58 PM »

Methuen

I am sorry you had such a stressful Mother's Day.

It shouldn't be that way.

I hope you have been able to get some rest and recover from everything.

Things like this is why I personally made a rule that I won't be sharing holidays with anyone that makes the day miserable. I am not saying this as an "I told you so" , only that at some point in our lives we deserve to be happy about something. Esp. with having a BPD parent, most of my life has been about making my parent happy and that isn't possible unless I burn myself up to keep her warm. Even then, my mom is so ornery she will say that the fire isn't big enough LOL.

Nothing is always perfect as we know but when I think of holidays I think of celebrating. Not appeasing children in adult bodies that aren't happy no matter what you do.

If I want to celebrate anything with my mom in the future it will be either in the days before or after the holidays. These parents are just too much, intolerable.

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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2023, 06:35:41 PM »

Methuen,

I don't think it is possible to forgive a BPD mother you are in contact with, too much hurt, too much triggers, too much Little Methuen trying to survive it still... Also for the record, I've also indulged in drugs and alcool to numb the family hurt down, so no judgment here from me, my friend ! It happens. Sometimes it is simply too much.

I hope you feel better today.  Virtual hug (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2023, 03:58:27 PM »

Thank you for the comments and replies.

While I have many positive distractions and things I am thankful for in my life, I wake up from every sleep with her (ubpd mother) being the first thing I think about.  I recognize this is not good.  She also rents far too much space in my head during the day when I am not occupied with work.

This is a long weekend where I live, and we are actually camping close to home with our adult children and friends.  I woke up this morning at 5:00am thinking about her.  I want to be more present, and push her out of my head, but her situation, and choices, and me living so close to her is just so hard.  I found out today through a completely random conversation from a work colleague who has an aging parent that there is a waiting list of almost 300 people to get into our assisted living facility.  My mom will never get there.

One of her friends recently made the comment to me "so do you really work 8 hours every day?" when talking about my mom.  Her judgement hung in the air.

Mother recently told H that a friend was so lucky because their son brought supper and helped them for a few hours every single day.

Your Mother's Day with your mother sounds like your day at the emergency room with your mother. Your body and mind seem to be telling you that you can't tolerate being around your mother for any length of time. What is that length of time?
What I maybe am hearing you say, is there is nothing you can do to please your mother and you will never feel appreciated no matter what you do.
I think 1 hour is my max.  Depending on my mother on any given day, 10 minutes might be too much.

I always tried to be the perfect child, in her eyes.  I did what she wanted me to do.  I tried to be the best at the things she expected me to do as a teen and young adult.  I've since worked at trying to undo "perfectionist" traits.  At university she came and stayed with me in my dorm.  Who agrees to that?  At my wedding, she was my matron of honour.  Who asks their mom to be their matron of honour?  We have taken her along on holidays we went on with friends.  Who takes their mother on events with friends?  I realize now that all of this was me taking care of her feelings.  I took care of her for 4-5 hours a day for over 4 weeks after her first fall.  It's been a lifetime of me trying to take care of her, and I don't have it in me any more. I'm only as good as my last failure in her eyes, which was returning to work (therefore I am a failure as a daughter because I'm not her slave taking care of her, and therefore I don't love her).  

I hear you Zachira on the autistic daughter story.  I think mom probably did get some benefit and that benefit was attention.  Her need for attention is insatiable, and when she doesn't get enough, she finds ways to let you know that.  By going and cooking her breakfast, she can tell all her friends her family did that for her.  But you're also right that sometimes there isn't a benefit.  Until recently, she was still agreeing to come to our house for family birthdays and occasions like Christmas/Easter.  I share a birthday with SIL.  On the birthday, D26 (physio) transported her to our house for the dinner.  Mom was a toddler, and as soon as she arrived, started saying unpleasant things to D and repeating over and over she wanted to go home.  So H and SIL took her home, while D tried to pull herself together with me in the basement.  I had come home from work quietly in all the commotion, and mother didn't even know I was there.  The next time I saw mom, it was like nothing had happened.  We have already decided we will not transport her to our house for events any more.  She is so weak, she had to be lifted up the stairs.  She didn't care a wit that she wasn't at my/SIL's birthday.  We think it's because the birthday wasn't about her.  Also because she can't hear or process conversations in groups any more, and this just invalidates her.  So in this example you are absolutely right Zachira, that she doesn't get anything out of being part of the activity.  

She has chosen to be alone in her own home. She has depression and anxiety, along with her litany of serious health problems.  She complains of being lonely all the time.  I don't say anything, but I quietly think "figure it out mom".

Methuen, I am so touched by the way you write, it was very cinematic and vivid to imagine your day, to read between the lines. Like watching a movie where you’re rooting for the main character to walk out of  the kitchen, hop in a camper van, and drive toward the Pacific Ocean with her dog and a flask of whiskey. Huzzah!

It made me think there is an argument for having a Dysfunctional Family day. To celebrate, people make plans then cancel them immediately. Then check into a spa.  

 I have this feeling often, that I would never wish these family experiences on anyone and at the same time am so grateful there are others who are driven to drink just to manage the frayed nerves. .

How long can your body tolerate exposure? I would be curious if there is a number you feel is comfortable. Something between guilt and duty that overlaps with self care.  
LNL, this made me laugh.  Thanks so much for that.  I needed it.  I have to think about the length of exposure my body can tolerate between guilt and duty that overlaps with self care.  I am wondering if I have reached my limit, or even gone beyond it.  The ridiculousness of her situation distresses me.  The fact that I drank too much too quickly for the first time in my life seems like an indicator.  So does the fact that I wake up thinking about her in the middle of the night, and/or the morning.

You've given me things to consider, and I really appreciated the laugh.

Things like this is why I personally made a rule that I won't be sharing holidays with anyone that makes the day miserable. Esp. with having a BPD parent, most of my life has been about making my parent happy and that isn't possible unless I burn myself up to keep her warm. Even then, my mom is so ornery she will say that the fire isn't big enough LOL.

Nothing is always perfect as we know but when I think of holidays I think of celebrating. Not appeasing children in adult bodies that aren't happy no matter what you do.

If I want to celebrate anything with my mom in the future it will be either in the days before or after the holidays. These parents are just too much, intolerable.
I think I needed to hear this Pink Panther.  Thank you.

I don't think it is possible to forgive a BPD mother you are in contact with, too much hurt, too much triggers, too much Little Methuen trying to survive it still...
 You are right that the constant contact (we live in the same small town) is a trigger and a burden.  Even though I've reduced contact to once or twice a week, I run into people in town who know her, and ask about her.  The expectation on me to help her (they don't know her like I do) is profound.  It is too much.

I am not a fan of Mother's Day.

On the positive side, both my children were kind to me and with me on Mother's Day, and I got a car washed and a bottle of bubbly.  And I have the best hubby I could have for me, who does mother's grocery shopping and takes her to appointments.  Still lots to be thankful for.  
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2023, 01:32:25 AM »

Glad to hear your children appreciate you.

It seems that the challlenge with disordered people is the healthier we get, the less we are able to tolerate them. It can be extremely difficult to keep adjusting the boundaries, as the disordered person we are limiting our exposure to reacts by treating us worse than ever.

It sounds like your mother is doing very poorly and won't be able to stay in her home much longer or possibly be still alive by next Mother's Day. She may be needing nursing home care soon. Can you give yourself credit for being the wonderful daughter you are to your mother even though she can't?
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2023, 05:17:14 AM »

Methuen- I’m late to post a response to yours but I understand your frustration at trying to do your best for your mother- who doesn’t recognize your efforts. You know that’s got nothing to do with you - it’s her distorted thinking - but still - it’s hard when this is with a parent.

Hugs to you !

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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2023, 05:24:18 AM »

On the positive side, both my children were kind to me and with me on Mother's Day, and I got a car washed and a bottle of bubbly.  And I have the best hubby I could have for me, who does mother's grocery shopping and takes her to appointments.  Still lots to be thankful for.  

It is beautiful that you were able to build all this love in your life, in your own family ! And yes, you seem very well supported by your H. A very bad daughter, but a wonderful mother and loving wife ! Doesn't sound quite right, one of those three labels must be wrong... Can we find it ?
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