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Staylor

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« on: August 18, 2023, 04:18:02 AM »

Hi...

So I don't really know where to start...

I have been dating my partner on and off for 4 years... As you know, the love bombing stage was great, everything seemed perfect... I was made aware of her mental health issues by her as she was very upfront from the start... however as you know these things reveal themselves more as time goes on...

Everything was great.. we got on like a house on fire, had loads of similar interests, she has two children that I was over the moon to be involved with... we moved pretty fast... again probably a mistake...

I guess there were red flags in the beginning... some episodes of verbal / physical aggression...
I'll be honest I was like a deer in the headlights when it first happened and instantly blamed myself...

However we talked about how it wasn't right to treat people like that and what to do to manage it moving forward...

She had also just begun her journey with the local CMHT... that told me that she wanted to get better and get help with her mental health... great. thats positive.

During this time she ended up going to the states to visit some family... it was really difficult for us both. She was looking after 2 new born babies and I could see she wasn't having a good time... I was left looking after her two kids and a dog... and I missed her dearly...

Then the paranoia started while she was out there...

I tried my best to re-assure her of her paranoia while she was there "thought people were watching her" "that her sister was talking about her negatively"...

However she broke, she went out on a night out and was sexually assaulted... she didn't tell me till months after she came home... I knew something was bad at the time so I got her on a flight home to protect her... floods of tears... emotional outbursts...

I came to the airport and she had visibly lost a lot of weight... and was drinking far to much... I knew something bad had happened but she didn't want to deal with it... she was drinking to block out the pain... this lead to a lot of friction in our relationship...

However she continued with therapy and ended up being accepted for DBT...

When she did eventually tell me, she fled... she ran and rarely came home for 8 weeks... it was a very terse time.. I was dealing with the house / kids / her emotional out bursts / guilt /shame.. whilst trying to get my head around what had happened... She was committed and began work with a trauma therapist...

During the following weeks she had also admitted to me about being in love with someone else... she was very upfront... it hurt... but I was allowing it because I knew she had just been through something traumatic... This person eventually moved into the house and I left...

We continued to see each other and chat about everything till the point that I moved back in with her and her new partner... in hindsight it was probably the wrong thing to do... I should have just let the situation play out... but I was worried about her mental health... She since told me that I sabotaged her relationship with this person and was very bitter for a while...

Eventually her new parter moved out and it was back to us again... Things were better... communication was better... she was focusing more on herself and DBT... We would always talk about her sessions and things we needed from each other in order to form a healthy relationship...

Skip to more recently... she wanted to explore her sexuality... common for someone who's been through what she has... and was advised to do so by her therapists... I was a little upset about it but we had a talk about ownership and how sex doesn't = love... She threw herself and all her emotions into someone else... which was the hard part... not the sex... the emotional disconnect...

Also worth mentioning she admitted to sleeping with someone after being assaulted...

She had completed DBT by this point so things seemed more positive... and they were for about 3 months...

Then again her problem behaviours had started again... drinking excessively... not really engaging with her children... drugs...

I could see it all unfolding in front of me...

Skip to a couple of weeks ago... I leave her on a night out... she stays with someone...  and proceeds to tell me she is moving in with this person and taking the kids with her... because of financial reasons... and that the house we live in triggers her...

She has spent the last week working on his static home and living back at his parents... and is planning on taking the kids there to stay indefinitely..

She has come home twice in the past two weeks... in floods of tears and just apologising... I stupidly said I didn't need an explanation and she needs to do whats best for her... I said "I know you are unwell right now" "You don't need to explain or apologise" because the reality is that she is very unwell... shes splitting and is in this cycle of fear... being rejected which is something I would never do...

We are trying to give each other space... and I am trying to use radical acceptance and let the situation play out...

Although DBT has helped her regulate her emotions, its obvious that her BPD is still pretty sever...

During the two weeks I have reassured her that I wouldn't abandon her... I have asked over and over again for a chat to which she says what do we have to talk about... She's expressed she wants to be alone and to not hurt anyone else...

I guess in her eyes her behaviour is unacceptable and she's not worthy of love... I know that this is part of her personality... and I have expressed that to her, that I understand, that I'm not judging her and I am only being compassionate because she's feeling vulnerable...

Right now I'm out of the house... where I was just left with all the memories... I'm back at my mum and dads because I need some breathing room...

We're planning to meet up on Sunday to make music... at this new persons place...

I'm just trying to reassure her that I'm still committed to that part of our relationship...

Its also worth mentioning that she is scared of me leaving her and our relationship ending...

I know I'm not to blame...

Any advice? I guess my main concern is she's making radical life changes in a state of being unwell... it's more the kids I'm worried about than me...

My thinking is staying in the house for as long as possible and see she comes to her senses...

It's only been a couple of weeks but everytime I speak to her shes certain this is what she wants...

Financially we were coping... although it is tough we always pulled together to make it work... now she's saying not to give her what I usually do but I fear that it means rent wont get paid and the house will be gone...

*UPDATE*

She's now saying she's not sure if its suitable for her to stay there... and she's going to see how it goes...

I've tried explaining to her that it might be a good idea to keep the house and pay for the rent to give her somewhere to come if it falls through?


Any advice...
« Last Edit: August 18, 2023, 07:16:25 AM by Staylor » Logged
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2023, 01:56:50 PM »

Hey Staylor, glad you landed here -- you're among friends who understand the intensity of a relationship with a pwBPD (person with BPD).

You've certainly been through the wringer over the last four years, and much of your story sounds so relatable here -- the amazing beginning, the fast pace, a few red flags, an event (or a couple of events) that seemed to set off more intense BPD-type traits and behaviors, her blame, risky behaviors, and wildly varying emotions... all with what sounds like if not actual substance abuse, then risky use of alcohol and drugs. It makes a lot of sense that you're kind of left standing in the wreckage wondering "so what do I do now".

Couple of things are standing out to me in your story:

Although DBT has helped her regulate her emotions, its obvious that her BPD is still pretty sever...

It sounds like you accept that even though she has tried some BPD-specific treatment, she still has some pretty extreme acting out behaviors -- that she does not seem to be actively applying the lessons of DBT in a way that significantly impacts her risky choices.

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I guess my main concern is she's making radical life changes in a state of being unwell... it's more the kids I'm worried about than me...

How old are the kids? How have they responded to their mom's actions? And is their dad in their life at all?

...

You're in a high-intensity situation right now, and she doesn't sound anywhere close to a baseline where she can hear and process rational input. That's one of the very challenging parts of being in a relationship with pwBPD -- when they're dysregulated, there isn't a ton we can do to "help" or "explain" or "fix it". Even though in a "generally normal" relationship, in a conflict, if we offered to help, or explained the situation, etc, that might help lower the emotional temperature, it's unintuitively the opposite with pwBPD. In times of conflict and dysregulation, usually Justifying, Arguing, Defending, and Explaining ourselves is like throwing gasoline on a fire. The most rational reasons we give pwBPD, instead of making things better or helping them make wiser choices, can sometimes increase the intensity of the conflict. 

So, in high-intensity situations, where we want so much to make things better, often a more helpful approach is to look at ways we can "stop making it worse" (not to say it's all our fault! More to say -- we only control our own contributions to the conflict, so we can look at moves we're making and decide to try different approaches to turn down the intensity).

There are a lot of good starting places in our "Tools" section up top; any one of the articles would be a fantastic read. You can try the one on Don't Be Invalidating for starters -- it kind of relates to the idea that in order to not make things worse in our relationships, we need to move away from the invalidation of Explaining stuff to partners and towards helping partners feel truly heard.

Again, none of this is to say "well it's your fault for XYZ" -- not at all. It's really about how having a relationship with a pwBPD can take deeply nonintuitive skills and approaches.

I hear how much anguish you're in as you watch her self-destruct, and I'm reading how you're willing to try nearly everything to better your relationship. While there are no guarantees, and she is struggling with some intense traits and behaviors, you can come here and learn some counter-intuitive tools and work on your side of things. Sometimes, when one partner changes an approach, it can impact the relationship dynamic for the better.

Staylor, feel free to settle in, read other threads, check out the Tools and Tips section above, and let us know how you're doing.

-kells76
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Staylor

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2023, 03:16:34 PM »

Thank you for your input... it has been a very stressful couple of weeks...

On several occasions I have told her we need to talk because our relationship is important to me... I have re-assured her that I would never abandon her... However on several occasions when I did press I could see the cracks showing... Maybe I was a little persistent at times... Its hard to stay level headed amongst the anguish and chaos.. tbh she has been communicating but never in great detail... or really letting me know her plans etc...

So, after what has been a very stressful couple of months... my partner has agreed to talk to me on Sunday..

I have spent the last week in parts in turmoil... denial... self blame and finally acceptance...

I have been with my partner for 4 years, and its only the past couple of days I have been reading in depth about her BPD...

It has made a lot of sense about so many things...

I realise how much of it I enabled...

Its a hard pill to swallow but I accept my role in the dysfunction...

I have a clear idea of what I'm going to say and how to get what I'm saying across... using Dearman...

I have been operating under FOG... I didn't even know it

I am hopeful that she will appreciate my commitment and understanding... which is are core values of mine...

If she has to move out, I get it, to heal because a lot has happened...

I just want to re-assure her that I would never turn my back on her, however there have been instances where my boundaries have been crossed... but I need to be soft...
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2023, 03:19:34 PM »

Kids are 12 and 15...

The 15yr has already moved in with mum and the youngest is about to... she is autistic so it might be an adjustment for her...

I have text the 15yr to ask how she's getting on, and everything seems to be going well...

I'm a little concerned I may have added to mums pressure, but it hasn't been clear to me what her real motives are... so clarity was always going to be needed..
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2023, 07:38:05 AM »

We all feel guilty at first when we start to learn about this disorder. Like so many of us, I also did everything wrong like informing her of the diagnosis thinking it was good news that it is treatable, wrong. We learn that so many of our common sense responses in the beginning are not the proper strategy to deal with BPD. Sounds like you need to step back, collect yourself again and then determine if this is right for you.

Remember:
You didn’t cause it, you can’t control it and you can’t cure it.
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