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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2016, 06:59:59 AM »

If you feel bad after having an orgasm I think that is a problem in itself. When I read about this nofap stuff it always strikes how the people who "witness" talks about feeling sad and empty after jerking off. Let me tell you this - I feel focused and relaxed. I feel focused and relaxed after masturbating to morally questionable porn clips for an hour. I feel focused and relaxed efter having an orgasm with my wife.
The sad feeling has nothing to do with the nature of the orgasm. It has nothing do with the nature of masturbating. It has nothing to do with porn.
The sad feeling is shame and guilt. In sociology shame is most often defined as a (real or imagined) threat to the social bond - we feel shame when we do something that people around us may disapprove of.
The notion that masturbation is a sorry substitute for "the real thing" will cause shame if you subscribe to it. It's actually part of a very conservative world-view where women are expected to be available for men who need to empty themselves every now and then. Not having a woman to empty yourself in is a sorry state. If a woman is not in the mood, you're in a sorry state. If you can't seduce a woman, then paying for sex is better than the five knuckle shuffle that drains you of your precious testosterone. You see where this is heading? The good old, religious times.
If you feel sad after climax, I recommend you go see someone.  
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2016, 09:52:10 AM »

In sociology shame is most often defined as a (real or imagined) threat to the social bond - we feel shame when we do something that people around us may disapprove of.
The notion that masturbation is a sorry substitute for "the real thing" will cause shame if you subscribe to it. It's actually part of a very conservative world-view where women are expected to be available for men who need to empty themselves every now and then. . . .The good old, religious times.

The part that the anti-sex religious groups fail to see is that shaming sexuality sexualizes shame.  By causing someone to feel shame at anything sexual, they create an association in that person's mind of shame with sex.  It then gets wired into feeling that the shame itself is a turn-on.  In other words, they create some of the very "perversions" they claim that sex shaming will prevent.  Think of Larry Craig, Josh Dugar, David Vitter, Dennis Hastert, Jim Bakker, etc.  All holier than thou while hiding deep, dark secrets--some of which genuinely deserved to be shameful (incestuous sexual abuse, for example.)

I would also add to hergestridge--the notion that masturbating is so shameful has fed the view that rape--something that should be extremely shameful--is somehow less shameful and therefore justifiable.
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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2018, 02:28:51 AM »

It's the crown jewel of rape culture.

If this post had been my first contact with "nofap", then I for one wouldn't react that strongly. But "nofap" has spread like wildfire in the last few years. It's a pseudo-movement with a few distinct features and notions. All those weren't stated in the original post in this thread, but since the post read "has anyone tried nofap", I thought it would be a good thing to discuss the movement as a whole.
I really don't care what people do and don't as regards their sex lives, but "nofap" shames young men for their own sexuality. It says they should abstain from masturbations so that they will be more "aggressive" when pursuing women. It's the crown jewel of rape culture. The guy hadn't had an orgasm in a month so he won't take no for an answer.

If someone here come out and said that they have stopped eating and it worked wonders, I would not applaud that either.
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2018, 09:57:25 AM »

I was once told by a sex therapist that has treated men for over 40 years that couples can have a completely unhappy relationship yet be having regular sex because they are disassociating during sex. When children are molested they protect themselves by disassociating from their bodies in the moment the molestation is happening. Chronic disassociation is a common symptom found in adults who were molested as children.
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