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peiper
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 09:38:44 AM »
Quote from: clydegriffith on December 18, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: downwhim on December 18, 2014, 08:50:07 AM
sorry, maybe it is me but I wish him the same pain he has caused others. Cheating, lying, manipulating. He knows what he is doing whether he is disordered or not.
He has all of the criteria except one so changes of him not being borderline are slim.
I am not saying I was not a trigger for him, I am but I do not wish him happiness, just can't go there right now. Not after the abuse and the way he treated me. What I wish for him is to go get help! I know his kids do too.
This is exactly how i feel. Wether disorderd or not the person i was involved with knows right from wrong and time after time after time again she chose to do the wrong thing. I do not wish her happiness and get great joy when i hear of mess after mess that she keeps getting herself into. I don't feel about about feeling that way either. If you've got hate in your heart let it out and embrace it
I agree completely. This crap of themselves not being able to help what they do is a bunch of BS. I have absolutely no good will for my exBPDw. She can rot in hell for all I care.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 02:01:41 PM »
I hope my replacement realizes what's going on or finds this site soon. Police blotter showed he got arrested for simple assault at their residence a few weeks ago.
I never had any anger towards him when I found out they were cheating during the waning months of the relationship. I knew who was responsible for what.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 02:17:36 PM »
feeling those feelings, that's all good. for a while, that is. eventually tho bitterness/resentment/anger/etc is like taking poison and expecting the other person to get sick or die! we only poison ourselves when we carry around these toxic emotions. break-ups with Cluster B's on the DSM are generally reported to be the hardest to get over. this is b/c of the dynamics at play. we were deeply deeply wounded by them, to our core. my ultimate goal is to be neutral.
icu
Quote from: peiper on December 20, 2014, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: clydegriffith on December 18, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: downwhim on December 18, 2014, 08:50:07 AM
sorry, maybe it is me but I wish him the same pain he has caused others. Cheating, lying, manipulating. He knows what he is doing whether he is disordered or not.
He has all of the criteria except one so changes of him not being borderline are slim.
I am not saying I was not a trigger for him, I am but I do not wish him happiness, just can't go there right now. Not after the abuse and the way he treated me. What I wish for him is to go get help! I know his kids do too.
This is exactly how i feel. Wether disorderd or not the person i was involved with knows right from wrong and time after time after time again she chose to do the wrong thing. I do not wish her happiness and get great joy when i hear of mess after mess that she keeps getting herself into. I don't feel about about feeling that way either. If you've got hate in your heart let it out and embrace it
I agree completely. This crap of themselves not being able to help what they do is a bunch of BS. I have absolutely no good will for my exBPDw. She can rot in hell for all I care.
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peiper
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 02:58:36 PM »
Quote from: ucmeicu2 on December 20, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
feeling those feelings, that's all good. for a while, that is. eventually tho bitterness/resentment/anger/etc is like taking poison and expecting the other person to get sick or die! we only poison ourselves when we carry around these toxic emotions. break-ups with Cluster B's on the DSM are generally reported to be the hardest to get over. this is b/c of the dynamics at play. we were deeply deeply wounded by them, to our core. my ultimate goal is to be neutral.
icu
Quote from: peiper on December 20, 2014, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: clydegriffith on December 18, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: downwhim on December 18, 2014, 08:50:07 AM
sorry, maybe it is me but I wish him the same pain he has caused others. Cheating, lying, manipulating. He knows what he is doing whether he is disordered or not.
He has all of the criteria except one so changes of him not being borderline are slim.
I am not saying I was not a trigger for him, I am but I do not wish him happiness, just can't go there right now. Not after the abuse and the way he treated me. What I wish for him is to go get help! I know his kids do too.
This is exactly how i feel. Wether disorderd or not the person i was involved with knows right from wrong and time after time after time again she chose to do the wrong thing. I do not wish her happiness and get great joy when i hear of mess after mess that she keeps getting herself into. I don't feel about about feeling that way either. If you've got hate in your heart let it out and embrace it
I agree completely. This crap of themselves not being able to help what they do is a bunch of BS. I have absolutely no good will for my exBPDw. She can rot in hell for all I care.
I have no desire to be neutral. She abused both mentally, verbally, emotionally and cheated. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 03:17:23 PM »
Quote from: peiper on December 20, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
I have no desire to be neutral. She abused both mentally, verbally, emotionally and cheated. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
hi, nowhere did i say or imply to "forget". being neutral and forgetting are not the same. being neutral means if you seem them or think of them, there is no positive or negative energy charge attached to the thoughts. if you see no advantage to your own well-being for neutrality, consider this: being angry/bitter/resentful/hating/etc towards the BPD/narcissist still
gives them energy
.
they are energy vampires
.
how many people here can attest that just as they were starting to feel healthy or normal or like they were starting to move on emotionally, did their pwBPD come out of the shadows and try to re-connect or re-establish contact? it happened to me multiple times. i have a friend IRL who also had an N and she experienced the same thing and often asked me "how do they
know
?".
well, it's b/c they have an energy connection to us. don't feed the animals.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 03:19:31 PM »
The anger will subside eventually. I still get flashes of it but not so much anymore.
Right now I'm sitting outside, it's a nice sunny day and my mind is pretty calm.
Whatever she's currently doing you can bet that she's in the middle of a million lies and with all the skeletons just waiting to pour out of the closet. I'm no longer that bothered.
Honestly at this stage I'm just greatful she's not ruining my life anymore (though I suspect she'll try again at some stage)
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 03:26:44 PM »
Just seen the ex again with my replacement came round a mutuel freinds house to borrow something . She seemed nervous I could here it in her voice I was in the lounge she walked into the kitchen she made no eye contact . Hearing her voice was strange almost haunting. She left 5 mins or so later she forgot her car keys , her purse and what she came round to borrow. It was like she couldnt get out of ther any quicker ! I could tell she wasn't her normal self acting nervous .
Guilt, shame, hurt, ? was not easy for me either did feel hurt more angry although I split up with her I shouldn't be angry I was angry she moved on to a replacement 12 hours after we split.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 03:33:57 PM »
Quote from: peiper on December 20, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
I have no desire to be neutral. She abused both mentally, verbally, emotionally and cheated. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
This is very true, however there is a difference between forgetting the past and using it to learn and grow within yourself.
Like you, I was in a very abusive marriage, mentally, verbally, emotionally and physically. My anger towards my ex wife was around how she could cause me that suffering and allow me to suffer all the same. It wasn't until I recognised that I was the one who allowed her to do that to me that I was able to forgive myself and move forward with my life.
I don't think I will ever be able to forgive her for her actions but I forgave myself and that is what is most important in all of this. I won't ever forget the scars she caused internally but at the same time I won't allow myself to compare others to her. What I have learned from her is when to say no, when to walk away from something that is abusive and not healthy and if someone is verbally abusive I give them the opportunity to correct that. If they don't have respect for my boundaries, I have no desire to have them in my life. How can you have someone in your life that has little or no respect for who you are as a person?
As for my ex wife, the anger has long since gone, I know she is no longer tied to me and cannot hurt me anymore. Even if she was to reappear, I am in control of me and I won't allow her through. I refuse to give her my time and energy and by doing that, I don't care either way what she is up to or where she is. As I said on a previous post, I do wish happiness for her but not because of who she is but because I don't wish unhappiness on anyone.
I don't think the word "neutral" refers to common ground which is why it's harder to accept. The word "acceptance" is much better because that refers to just you and your feelings without being tied to the other person. If you have acceptance within yourself, nothing they can say or do can ever again break who you are. Remembering the past is what will keep you grounded if they ever reappear as a reminder of what life would be like if you ever went back.
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Re: for those who wonder what the replacement gets treated like...
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December 20, 2014, 04:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Ripped Heart on December 20, 2014, 03:33:57 PM
Quote from: peiper on December 20, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
I have no desire to be neutral. She abused both mentally, verbally, emotionally and cheated. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
This is very true, however there is a difference between forgetting the past and using it to learn and grow within yourself.
Like you, I was in a very abusive marriage, mentally, verbally, emotionally and physically. My anger towards my ex wife was around how she could cause me that suffering and allow me to suffer all the same. It wasn't until I recognised that I was the one who allowed her to do that to me that I was able to forgive myself and move forward with my life.
I don't think I will ever be able to forgive her for her actions but I forgave myself and that is what is most important in all of this. I won't ever forget the scars she caused internally but at the same time I won't allow myself to compare others to her. What I have learned from her is when to say no, when to walk away from something that is abusive and not healthy and if someone is verbally abusive I give them the opportunity to correct that. If they don't have respect for my boundaries, I have no desire to have them in my life. How can you have someone in your life that has little or no respect for who you are as a person?
As for my ex wife, the anger has long since gone, I know she is no longer tied to me and cannot hurt me anymore. Even if she was to reappear, I am in control of me and I won't allow her through. I refuse to give her my time and energy and by doing that, I don't care either way what she is up to or where she is. As I said on a previous post, I do wish happiness for her but not because of who she is but because I don't wish unhappiness on anyone.
I don't think the word "neutral" refers to common ground which is why it's harder to accept. The word "acceptance" is much better because that refers to just you and your feelings without being tied to the other person. If you have acceptance within yourself, nothing they can say or do can ever again break who you are. Remembering the past is what will keep you grounded if they ever reappear as a reminder of what life would be like if you ever went back.
Oh I have grown. Six months ago I probably would have taken her back even though she cheated. Now I have boundrys and would never think about putting myself back in that situation. It also showed me unequivocally what I want. Today I have a beautiful girlfriend who is normal. And I know I'm a good man, unlike what she had me brainwashed into thinking.
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