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« on: February 21, 2016, 08:54:01 AM »

I'm wanting to text her so badly. I'm at the three or four day mark again. 

We are still supposed to do a concert in three weeks. If I can somehow not text for that long then maybe by that time I'll be able to not go with her. As it is right now I want to go with her still though. 

Ugh. Yesterday on Facebook she posted a picture of robin williams and the caption said that the saddest people try to make others happy the most.  So they don't feel worthless as well.

So if that's an indicator she's still no happier.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 09:38:42 AM »

She is still no happier? Probably not - but that's NOT your problem unless you choose it to be so.

You, on the other hand, most definitely ARE your problem. You need to detach - and ruminating about the minutiae of her life is not helping that process. 

What have you been up to today that is all about you and has made you feel better? If nothing, what can you constructively do to distract yourself from thinking about your ex?



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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 05:14:38 PM »



Scopi... .

Maybe you need to spend some time here

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?board=2.0

to help you identify what it is that you actually want here.

It seems to me that being on the "detaching board" is too premature for you.

You haven't detached and you can't really decide on the right course of action.

Maybe talk to some people over on that board, reflect on what they say and then make the right decision for you.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 05:05:30 PM »

I agree.  I feel your pain though.  Got contact today via email after I've done hard core nc for over 2 months when she dumped me. We Co own a car as former bf/gf. I got an email asking me to pay a 72 dollar camera ticket. At 730 in the am. And I've been ruminating all day and driving a friend crazy. 

And from reading your posts you sound exactly like me.  We hold onto hope and want to let go but the dream dies slowly.  I think if you proceed on, not unlike myself, that you are asking for a world of pain. I have two girlfriends that I contact immediately before I take any action because I know I will make a mistake and I don't trust myself and it sounds like you need someone to guide you as well perhaps.

If you're staying on this board most people are going to tell you to not go to the concert. I think almost everyone will tell you that. It's hard I know I've had three attempts at in direct contact and now this direct contact over a fairly trivial matter that should have been resolved months ago as it was only a $25 ticket and she never told me about it and now it's 72. My point is I wanted to respond and I search for any meaning in what they are doing but my friend said you were going to go online and pay the ticket and send her a screenshot of the bill being paid and nothing else.

And unfortunately because I was stupid enough to buy a car with a girl that I had known for two months I'm stuck in this situation for right now and I can't just ignore her because it does affect her as well as me.

You on the other hand can choose to move on but I can tell you are very much like me and you are not ready to let go even though everybody else can see it. I feel your pain buddy I support you and I hope that you make the right choices someone told me recently that the best choices are often the most painful and I'm trying to take that course of action myself. Love yourself more and skip the concert and move on.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 05:18:40 PM »

Thanks. Good post.  You know I'm

Trying to take it for what it is right now. I don't see getting sucked in. She's made it clear she doesn't want a relationship. Because it causes her too much pain to even think about it. That sounds like a good excuse i think. But realistically how can she go do the things we've done in the past month. Seemingly had great times. Play a trivia game with me online. And have this concert planned - and then claim it's too much for her to talk or think about getting back because it hurts so much.  That makes no sense.

Anyhow I will probably do the concert and even a nice upscale dinner before hand. Not because i hope she will have change of heart.  She won't. I view her now as an alcoholic. Or bi polar. Or someone with illness. She can't help herself. So it is what it is.  We will have a good time.

I feel sorry for her. Her lot and place and path in life.  Such a waste. Such a waste
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 05:56:00 PM »

I think if you want to detach from her you should not do the dinner/concert. That will only stunt your recovery.

Think about your future with her - does it look like you can ever be in a real relationship in which she gives you everything you need and deserve?

It's hard, I know. I'm going through it now - detaching. Giving up hope on this relationship ever coming back. I need to and I need to stop thinking she's the only woman in the world who can give me happiness. She can't. So it's time to break free and find someone who can give me what I need and deserve.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 06:19:10 PM »

Thanks. Good post.  You know I'm

Trying to take it for what it is right now. I don't see getting sucked in. She's made it clear she doesn't want a relationship. Because it causes her too much pain to even think about it. That sounds like a good excuse i think. But realistically how can she go do the things we've done in the past month. Seemingly had great times. Play a trivia game with me online. And have this concert planned - and then claim it's too much for her to talk or think about getting back because it hurts so much.  That makes no sense.

Anyhow I will probably do the concert and even a nice upscale dinner before hand. Not because i hope she will have change of heart.  She won't. I view her now as an alcoholic. Or bi polar. Or someone with illness. She can't help herself. So it is what it is.  We will have a good time.

I feel sorry for her. Her lot and place and path in life.  Such a waste. Such a waste

Scopi, buddy, you know what I'm going to say before I say it... .but I'll say it again: you need to let go.  This girl has made it clear to you that she doesnt want a r/s with you.  Whether it's because she doesn't want to or it's to painful for her or because she really is afflicted... .it doesnt matter.  What matters in all this is how YOU feel about everything.  You haven't really talked about that.  So, I want to ask you this: what do YOU want from interaction with her?

I know you've taken her on trips to see her kids, bought gifts for them, taken her to concerts, and so on.  You said on your last trip that you two were intimate.  Now, you're saying that you're planning to take her to an upscale dinner and another concert.  Where does it end?  What is your goal from all this?  What do you feel by spending time with her, even though she repeatedly has pushed you away by saying she doesnt want a r/s with her? 

I'm asking from a nonjudgemental place.  I have followed your saga for a long time, just as you have followed mine.  I kept J in my orbit because I wanted to.  I wanted her back, badly.  I knew I couldn't have her back, not the way I wanted, but I couldn't let go.  That has since changed.  I came to realize that J is the one missing out on me, not me missing out on her.  I hope you don't mind my bluntness, but that's how I am so stop reading if you aren't ready for that... .

It's time to put her ghost to rest, Scopi.  It's time for you to dig deep into yourself and decide what you really really want.  If you want back with her, go for it man.  But don't be surprised when you get seriously wounded from it.  If that's not what you want, it's time to walk away.  No concert.  No dinner.  No texting her.  Grieve the loss of the beautiful woman you had a r/s with.  She has passed.  It's time to grieve.  This girl you're seeing just looks like the girl you remember.  She is her doppelgänger.  It's painful as hell, I should know.  I've been there, twice.  I thought I struck gold, when in fact all I had was pyrite.  You're in a bubble.  It's time you take that first step into a brave new world without the security of that bubble.  It's going to be ok.  You're going to be ok.  Trust in us when we tell you this.  Anez is right.  Exposure to her, no matter how small, will stunt your recovery.  This is about YOU, not her.

Everything I've said, you can toss to the side... .if that's what you want.  Seriously.  It's your life and only you can live it.  If you feel like you're willing to be a doormat, then do what you must.  We aren't going to judge you for that, that is why there are other sections of the board.  I've been to those sections.  I was willing to put the work in an make it work with J.  I tired, I failed.  It's time for me to move on.  Only you can decide when enough is enough. 

We are here for you, whatever you decide.  All the best.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 07:36:22 PM »

Scopi

Listen to Astro and Anez

They're giving you really good advice and asking you really good questions. I have two very good girlfriend as I mentioned who have really open my eyes to manipulation and lies and games that girls play and I don't think you are seeing the depth of what this girl is doing to you. This girl knows what she's doing and she is playing you I'm sorry to tell you I wish it wasn't true as I know that is the case in my situation and its taking me a long time to accept it. She knows what she is doing. She is taking what she can get and she is using you and I would bet you that you would not come home for the concert no matter what happens and feel like you had an amazing time and would be glad that you went. If you had a good time you're going to want more and you're going to think that it could happen and that she's changed. If you have a bad time you're going to regret that you went. As a guy you are probably thinking along the lines that you wine and diner and she is frisky later on. If you're just looking for some action I can tell you there are a lot better girls out there than an alcoholic.

If that's not enough to help you to see let me tell you one other thing. Alcohol and BPD do not mix and I have witnessed firsthand from a prior X her violent behavior. There is really nothing healthy here for you. Listen I say this because I do feel exactly what you feel I miss my ex I don't even understand why she cheated she lied she f***** with my head and she disappears for two and a half months now and the only thing she can ask his about a stupid ticket after everything she's done. What person would behave like this. In her mind she is already resigned her feelings that she could never care for you if you can find me a story anywhere on this site in a half a million posts where the girl came back and had a wonderful relationship after all the crap that they  put somebody through then I would say you have hope and I can tell that you still have hope and that's what's killing you. You are in denial just like me. I get up every morning still missing her still thinking she's going to come around but she doesn't give a s***.

This girl does not care about you she knows how to manipulate you. She cares about what you can do for her and that's it and obviously you can provide stuff for her. I really think that you would feel more empowered to just walk away just give her the tickets back if you have them. Tell her that hopefully sometime in the future you could be her friend possibly but I don't even think that's realistic and just go through the grieving process completely until you can detach. I know that seems like a horrible thing to go through and it is but it will get better.

When I was 23, by the way I'm 45 now, I met a girl who was BPD and I didn't know it until last year actually but we dated off and on for 2 years and we managed to be friends after two years of dating because we never saw each other anymore. We talked on the phone and eventually met other people but any time that we tried to get together in person it always ended up back in a relationship and it always blew up quicker each time. I've seen these things escalate further and further and further as feelings get more intense and frustration sets in and I've witnessed these things turn ugly and when you mix in alcohol you're always always potentially asking for trouble and without getting into how I know just let me tell you trust me I have been through some absolute hell because of this.

Please listen to what the last two posters are telling you for yourself because you only get one life and if you spend much more time with this girl it's going to take you even longer and longer to get to a healthy place. I truly wish you all the best and I hope you find the strength to make those tough decisions
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 04:20:01 AM »

I agree. You need to go 100% full NC. Otherwise you'll just be ripping open that wound again. When I saw my ex for the first time since the break up (it had been 4 weeks) it was like going back to square one. Don't do that to yourself. Avoid her at all costs.
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