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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2018, 08:23:14 AM »

Meili, I think you really hit the nail on the head here. I agree.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2018, 09:53:05 AM »

Well you say that standing up for you is being "high conflict", I say that it's not high conflict but having a spine. I fear that many people that come to this forum for help and find these "tools" to improve their relationships with BPD people will find years down the road that they completely let go of their "high conflict" (JADE) ways just to realize that their BPD partner has not changed one bit and all they achieved was to be a softer, weaker version of their former shelf.

I was reading this this morning. It's interesting. It's reads a bit like stand up to a bully. That if you don't JADE, you are cowering.

Let's play that out in a bully situation. A guy walks up to you in a bar, squares off and says, I saw you making eyes at my wife.

Would you JADE in that situation? I didn't know she was your wife?  That you were actually looking at the poster on the wall behind her?

No man, you were looking at my wife!

Would you then say, I am are nearsighted and can't see that far? She was probably looking at me?

No. You'd either swing or apologize and by the guy a beer. JADE is the cowering. You have seen that guy.

I don't love this analogy - but it makes the point.

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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »

i agree with Skip. When I catch myself JADEing, I've put myself in the weaker position.

That said, there are ways to discuss issues without JADEing. I'm now using "I" words, letting my opinion be known.

In the past, I was always looking for consensus, agreement. Considering how quickly feelings change in the BPD world, it's much easier now to just state my thoughts and opinions and let that stand.
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