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THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PERSONALITY DISORDERS
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Author Topic: Thyroid: Is there a link between BPD and thyroid disorders?  (Read 24804 times)
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 06:57:15 PM »

My now exBPDgf had hypothyroidism. She was on Synthroid for it.

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2008, 11:44:01 PM »

I've read the medical journal articles, too, that link BPD to hypothyroid. It was curiosity on my part because my DH's BPDXW is hypothyroid, and he talked about how much worse it got after her thyroid lobe removal. (She was hyperthyroid before that, with unpleasant psych symptoms, but apparently not the big bundle of fun she turned into afterward.)

I've been really curious about this link, too. In my reading, I learned like some of you that it does not correlate 100%, which makes sense. My assumption before I ran into this post was that there are those who are predisposed for whatever reason, and those who are not. Since from my DH's account, the BPDXW had very unpleasant jealousy issues and a fairly short temper before her thyroid lobe was removed, I figured that she must be predisposed.

Though, who knows? I'm no expert. Perhaps hyperthyroid is a factor, too? Although I've never run into it in my reading, and in my case it's fairly pointless to go any further. It's not like she's looking for a cure.

But one last tip for my fellow travelers in curiosity - I was curious if any of the medical journal articles I read were freely available through google. While I didn't find that, if you throw in "borderline personality disorder" and "hypothryoid", there would appear to be a slew of info out there.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2008, 11:02:43 AM »

Hiya Folks; My ex bp said they found a tumor on her pituitary gland. The Doc said it could have happened from any kind of trauma from her past, and that they grow slowly. Her condition was called Hypopituiarism. So, I typed that in along with mental diseases, and I found some journals dating back to 1885!
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 10:06:45 AM »

From what I've read some people have had there BPD symptoms almost vanish or at least scale back from getting there thyroid under control via medication. Wondering what other peoples thoughts are on this.

If someone  has an overactive or under-active thyroid, it affects their emotions.  Treating this will alleviate the thyroid related symptoms.

With an overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism), one may experience:

   Unusual nervousness

   Restlessness

   Anxiety

   Irritability

On the opposite end of the spectrum, with have an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), one may experience:

   Mild to severe fatigue

   Depression

Is there a relationship or is it dual diagnosis?  This suggests the later - or a lack of evidence to support the former.

Circulating thyroid autoantibodies are more prevalent in patients with mood disorders than in the general population, but longitudinal clinical data that establish a relationship between thyroid antibody status and the course of any psychiatric syndrome have been lacking. In addition, scant attention has been paid to thyroid hormones and autoimmunity in borderline personality disorder (BPD).

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12897379

Thyroid disease affects the moods of most, but it is ampified in people with mood conditions such as:

~atypical depression (which may present as dysthymia)

~bipolar spectrum syndrome (including manic-depression, mixed mania, bipolar depression, rapid-~cycling bipolar disorder, cyclothymia, and premenstrual syndromes)

~borderline personality disorder

~or psychotic disorder (typically paranoid psychosis).


www.currentpsychiatry.com/home/article/identifying-hypothyroidisms-psychiatric-presentations/190d5808f9bdd646cf3a8560587e35cc.html
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 10:15:40 AM »

An imbalanced thyroid can cause depression but I've never heard of BPD-like symptoms.  I've had thyroid problems for years & although I experienced weight gain & depression at times (I can tell when it is "low") I didn't experience BPD symptoms.  Hyperthyroid can cause some anxiety & palpitations (among other symptoms)

Either way (hyper or hypo)  thyroid problems can make a person miserable & they really need to be treated (by a doctor--not just iodine at the health food store  wink
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 10:17:24 AM »

my uBPDw has an underperforming thyroid. She takes a dose some where between 60 and 120. I did see some mild changes in here moods but once she was back on track not feeling to tired and run down. It was something else to complain about. Some how she got her dr to perscribe her adderol. She says it gives her focus and more energy and it just so happens it has great weight loss associated with it. I think its been over two years on thyroid and one with the thy/addy cocktail. She is now extremely skinny to the point people make comments about it looking unhealthy. It also appears that the addy is causing a heart problem. She is so addicted that she knows if she complains to much about the heart problem she will be taken off the addy. We had a recent life insurance policy update. she had to do a battery of tests. One came back stateing she was malnourished...oh that felt like a venting...sorry.

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 01:14:58 PM »

This is really interesting,

My BPDW had her thyroid removed (or 95% of it) in her early twenties. She takes thyroid medication.

I wonder if there is a link?
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 03:06:11 PM »

I have hypothyroidism. It has to be treated quite aggressively if my count goes over the mid range of normal all my symptoms start coming back and it aint pretty.  grin It's one of the big issues with hypothyroidism that each person needs to be treated not to the "numbers" but for the symptoms. My mother's count was always just in the high end of the scale so her doctor did not treat her until a medication she was on tipped her over the line. The change in her was remarkable, cognitively she improved dramatically. She was 77 and seeing her doctor for post stroke and dementia care. By being treated she got 7 yrs of better mental health. I wish she had gotten it earlier, would have made my life soo much easier. Too many GPs look at the numbers only and downplay the symptoms or put it off to depression or other problems. If this is happening to you the best thing to do is find an endocrinologist and interview them to find out if they believe in aggressively treating the symptoms not following the numbers, if not, move on.

Most lists of hypothyroid symptoms either lists cognitive problems as one item or just a few of the more common ones. However each person is different as to what area it affects. Wikipedia has a detailed list of research areas for cognitve ability under "cognitive psychology". It's enlightening to see how many areas of interest are symptoms we list for our pw/BPD. As to lists of thyroid symptoms do not just look at one, check out several and combine the lists. I have yet to find one list that has every symptom reported on it.

Having hypothyroidism can make you feel and act like you are mentally ill or in a deep depression. With my son's BPDgf before she was diagnosed she was explaining how she felt and I suggested she have her T3/T4 test. She was right on the edge of being hypo and her doctor treats her with a low daily dose. It seems to have eased a couple of symptoms but she has always been open to help and since the diagnosis she has been actively seeking assistance so don't know which helped.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2010, 02:22:53 PM »

I suspect an aunt of having BPD (she is in her 80s) and she had a tumor on her thyroid about 20 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if she had had thyroid problems long before that ... she had radiation treatments for acne back in the 40s, which I have heard can kill off the thyroid (or at least really damage it).
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2010, 08:09:38 AM »

Mine got evaluated too. As did her sister. Some treatment but overall inconclusive.

I suspect there is a linkage. But which way is the causal relationship? And is it causal or just coincident due to diagnostic traditions? Odd acting persons my be suspected of having something physical. And thyroid is difficult to diagnose. It is also linked to hormones and if a woman has emotional problems - hormones can be a cause. As can BPD...
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