Home page of BPDFamily.com, online relationship supportMember registration here
March 21, 2025, 04:14:43 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins: Kells76, Once Removed, Turkish
Senior Ambassadors: EyesUp, SinisterComplex
  Help!   Boards   Please Donate Login to Post New?--Click here to register  
bing
Before you can make things better, you have to stop making them worse... Have you considered that being critical, judgmental, or invalidating toward the other parent, no matter what she or he just did will only make matters worse? Someone has to be do something. This means finding the motivation to stop making things worse, learning how to interrupt your own negative responses, body language, facial expressions, voice tone, and learning how to inhibit your urges to do things that you later realize are contributing to the tensions.
81
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: My exBPD (Narcissistic Traits) asking for help again, she is in so much trouble  (Read 493 times)
daz_bpd
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Single
Posts: 134


« on: October 26, 2015, 07:09:56 PM »

I feel terrible standing on the sidelines and watching her go down, her opportunities to reach her dreams are fading away (but this is the 4th time she has  chance now to make a difference in her life), but literally every thing I have done to try help her, never makes a difference. The next week, or even days later she is back into the same mess, needing more money and draining me of energy, time while withholding love and displaying a total lack of empathy to my career, and life.

If i help her now, I scrw myself over, and it likely won't even matter. She doesn't change her behaviour.
Logged
GaGrl
Ambassador
********
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic partner’s ex
Posts: 5775



« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2015, 07:46:55 PM »

So your "goodbye" message to her was not really good-bye?
Logged


"...what's past is prologue; what to come,
In yours and my discharge."
Michelle27
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 754


« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2015, 08:07:21 PM »

As in everything in life, you have a choice.  If you truly thinking helping her won't make a difference, then what difference will it make except to screw yourself over.  She doesn't have to have that kind of power over you if you don't want it to. 
Logged
AsGoodAsItGets
***
Offline Offline

What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Posts: 173


« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 09:25:48 PM »

Its hatd to give imput.  My ex did sctew me, but i did save her life, and i do  honor the love,  yet, i get it.  Could you give us so more details.
Logged
pallavirajsinghani
Distinguished Member
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Sibling
Relationship status: Married TDH-with high cheekbones that can cut butter.
Posts: 2497


« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2015, 09:43:22 PM »

Hello daz-BPD:  I am sorry to see you in pain.  I posted a long reply and then lost it... .so to summarize that lengthy post:

1)  Your desire to save her reflects your morality, your empathy, your sensitivity towards the pain of the fellow man.  This is the best part of you.

2) At the same time, it is important to accept your own limitations... .you are not a magician who can magically make her whole.  You are not God.  You are not a trained clinician.  You can love her, but you cannot change her. Love unfortunately, does not conquer mental illness. Only she can change herself.

3) On a plane, the passengers are told to place the oxygen mask on themselves before they put it on their children... .I always thought of this as a very selfish instruction and thought to myself that I would NEVER do it.  In a crisis, I want to save my child first.  Over the years I came to understand that you cannot save another person until you save yourself... .it is ok to put the oxygen mask on yourself first because then 2 people may be saved vs. both dying.

So clearly, it is time for you to put the oxygen mask on yourself first.  This is not selfishness, or lack of love. This is respecting your own personhood... .for you are no less important to the universe than she is.

She is intrinsically worthy as a human being as are you.

The following story may help present this dilemma... .www.thecruxmovie.com/pdf/TheBridgeShortStory.pdf
Logged

Humanity is a stream my friend, and each of us individual drops.  How can you then distinguish one from the other?
daz_bpd
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Single
Posts: 134


« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 09:49:24 PM »

Okay so now i must just learn to carry and let go of the inevitable pain and guilt that will follow this ordeal. Because she is suffering right now, her dreams and career are likely over, and im Letting Go... .
Logged
ReluctantSurvivor
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Posts: 221



« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 07:52:51 PM »

I feel terrible standing on the sidelines and watching her go down, her opportunities to reach her dreams are fading away (but this is the 4th time she has  chance now to make a difference in her life), but literally every thing I have done to try help her, never makes a difference. The next week, or even days later she is back into the same mess, needing more money and draining me of energy, time while withholding love and displaying a total lack of empathy to my career, and life.

If i help her now, I scrw myself over, and it likely won't even matter. She doesn't change her behaviour.

Hi Daz,

 I am sorry that you are feeling terrible over this.  It is painful to watch some one we care about suffer.  You say this is the 4th time she has had a chance to improve her life, that her behavior will not change.  If you do help, you will be abused (neglect, betrayal trauma from withholding love, disregard) and be in pain regardless.  BPDs and cluster Bs as well as the spectrum of PDs have traits to be eternal victims.  Self sabotage is a tool they use to get attention, pity, narcissistic and or borderline supply.  If you do "jump into the fire" you will be burned and she will likely jump back in.  This can be seen as enabling behavior.  So long as someone with a PD can use their own poor choices to draw in empathetic people as rescuers then no attempt will be made to grow and solve their own problems.

It is very painful to watch.  It is painful to help.  Love yourself first and foremost.  If that means setting stronger boundaries then so be it.  Sometimes you have to protect your own good heart from those who would mistreat it, use it, feed on it and toss it aside when done.

Have you been through this behavior with her before?  :)id you come to the rescue then?  How did it make you feel?  :)id it make any lasting difference to her and her behavior?
Logged

Angry obsessive thoughts about another weaken your state of mind and well being. If you must have revenge, then take it by choosing to be happy and let them go forever.
― Gary Hopkins
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?

Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2020, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!