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« on: October 27, 2015, 03:59:24 PM »

My BPD/NPD GF broke up with me suddenly about 7 weeks ago. I have not attempted to contact her for about 4 weeks. And, I never heard from her either. I assume she is with a new victim.

I may have triggered her abandonment fears during one of our conversations or she feared that we were getting to close or maybe our r/s was keeping her from her implusive behavior like sex, some harder drugs etc. Not sure why, but I believe she split me "Black". After my numerous tries of contacting her within 3 weeks after our breakup, I gave up. Also, I believe that she Blocked my cell phone.

Why do BPD/NPD's do this(Silent Treatment, Blocking, Strict No Contact?) Is she punishing me for something and enjoying it? Or, is she hurting so bad and can't face me? Or, did she do somethng that she is ashamed of and can't face me?

And, do they ever come back?
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 10:56:21 PM »

Sorry that you are going through this... .I know how hurtful and confusing that this is, it seems to defy any logical explanation and it does. Time and distance will eventually make you feel better I promise you.

Why do BPD/NPD's do this(Silent Treatment, Blocking, Strict No Contact?) These are all considered to be different things. The silent treatment is usually happens within the confines of the relationship and is meant as punishment. It is not the same as a cut off where the non is completely cut off from contact. Blocking is one way to achieve that cut off or, where you describe it as 'strict no contact'. The purpose for this is more complex that the Silent Treatment.  Is she punishing me for something and enjoying it? there may be some punishment that is involved and, perhaps some enjoyment, but enjoying causing someone a level of pain is ordinarily associated with NPD. Though, BPD's can also have NPD or others.  Or, is she hurting so bad and can't face me? Her core shame is what is likely the cause. The hurt is likely not the loss of the relationship with you specifically (sorry to say), though it might be an element. She might not be upset at all. Moreover, since you are now a trigger, she might be painfully frightened by the very thought of seeing or speaking with you (mine is for sure).  Or, did she do something that she is ashamed of and can't face me? She has shame for herself associated with self worth. You were too close... .you would eventually see how unworthy she was of your love and attention and you would abandon her. She did it before you could and cut off contact of your post breakup cruel efforts to cause her additional pain and suffering. This is the composite version of the BPD breakup... .

And, do they ever come back? It seems that most do. If I had to guess, most circle back within the first few weeks or months. Mine disappeared over a year ago and I have not hear a peep from her since (even though she has been stalking me here and there). There are other accounts of them returning years or even decades later. I cannot recall any accounts where they disappear forever, but thats only my own observation (frankly, I don't expect mine to ever return).

How long have you been out?
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 11:54:03 PM »

Silent treatment BPD or not is a passive aggressive form of abuse.

JRT is right. It can be many things, shame, punishment. More often than not they are idealing someone new.  Because they possess a black and white way of thinking (no In between) the ex is usually painted black. As soon as the new person proves they are not perfect (who is) there is a possibility of being painted white again.

Happened to me many times.

The best thing is to try not to rationalize the irrational. Work on yourself and why you attracted your ex... .if and when she returns you will be better equipt to leave the past in the past.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 01:21:06 AM »

That is so true, my ex loved to block me for a few days then unblock me. My messages were delivered however and she usually checked them at her own convenience. It seems to me that blocking is her way of distancing herself so she can detach, And MoveOn from the relationship. Most of the time she feels that, and messages me again. My ex had major issues with being alone, she either had to hook up with somebody, which I never was ever able to prove, Or come back to me. This cycle repeated itself 4-5 times. I cannot get myself to block her, even if I wanted to. Something inside me wants her to contact me. I know it's wrong, illogical, and it is best to go NC all the way. I am NC now for four weeks, hello resisting all urges to contact her. She has not blocked me this time. Maybe now she is indifferent unlike before when she was very emotional.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2015, 01:39:25 AM »

Or, is she hurting so bad and can't face me? Or, did she do somethng that she is ashamed of and can't face me?

Hi exBPDgf_Victim,

I'm sorry to hear that. People with BPD ( pwBPD) feel chronic shame, self loathe, and are hard on themselves. Freeatlast_1 has a point, she may not be contacting you because it's too emotional for her.  
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 02:07:47 AM »

Hi exBPDgf

A lot of what we see isn't just BPD behaviour. Thing like blocking and no contact are used by many people here to help detach from a relationship.

Why your gf broke up only she knows but what I would say is that she got to a point where she realised it wouldn't work so decided to end it. Whether this was because she had done something and knew that it would ruin the relationship if you found out or because her mirroring of you took her too far away from what she was comfortable with or that she felt she just wasn't good enough for you or a dozen other reasons.

I read once that pwBPD enter a new relationship with certain expectations. They see their new partner as perfect and this is the idolisation phase. As the relationship goes the partner shows their flaws. Were not perfect so its bound to happen. This is when the push pull phase happens. As more and more flaws are exposed the pwBPD sees that we cannot live up to their expectations and they feel conned. Like we feel conned because they mirrored us they feel conned because they thought we were something we were not. This is where the devaluation phase kicks in.

That said it doesn't mean they don't have their doubts and this is where the recycles come in. After the break up they see that you actually weren't as bad as they thought so they can (depending on their guilt, fear of rejection, loneliness etc etc) try and recycle you.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2015, 02:31:54 AM »

It's not that she went No contact or silent treatment. It's HOW she did it. When I normal person wants out of a relationship, they tell you "it's over" when they do not want to talk to you they tell you "leave me alone"... silent treatment is different because "leave me alone" is never communicated to you. They just simply stop replying to you after they leave you without telling you. Now if she told it's over I wanna break up then she simply does not want to speak to you. It's painful I know.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2015, 02:33:36 AM »

That is so true, my ex loved to block me for a few days then unblock me. My messages were delivered however and she usually checked them at her own convenience. It seems to me that blocking is her way of distancing herself so she can detach, And MoveOn from the relationship. Most of the time she feels that, and messages me again. My ex had major issues with being alone, she either had to hook up with somebody, which I never was ever able to prove, Or come back to me. This cycle repeated itself 4-5 times. I cannot get myself to block her, even if I wanted to. Something inside me wants her to contact me. I know it's wrong, illogical, and it is best to go NC all the way. I am NC now for four weeks, hello resisting all urges to contact her. She has not blocked me this time. Maybe now she is indifferent unlike before when she was very emotional.

not blocking you this time could mean many different things. If she indifferent she would be healthy emotionally.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2015, 03:39:43 AM »

It's not that she went No contact or silent treatment. It's HOW she did it. When I normal person wants out of a relationship, they tell you "it's over" when they do not want to talk to you they tell you "leave me alone"... silent treatment is different because "leave me alone" is never communicated to you. They just simply stop replying to you after they leave you without telling you. Now if she told it's over I wanna break up then she simply does not want to speak to you. It's painful I know.

Isn't "silent treatment" when you stay with someone and remain silent and treat your partner with indifference, giving him/her the cold shoulder etc?

From your description it seems you understood that your GF broke up with you even though she just went AWOL somehow. It seems you expect her to communicate differently than what she does.

At the risk of being the devil's advocate I'm going to suggest this: perhaps she doesn't say "it's over" because she doesn't want to have "the talk" that would ensue? That would put her in a vulnerable position, she would have to defend herself and so on. She's BPD and she hates all that.

One can think it's cowardly and all that, but she has all the right in the world to walk out the door when she feels like it. It's easy to forget that. It is not abuse to leave someone without an explanation.

We can leave our BPD partners and they can leave us whenever they feel like it. And of course it hurts... .like hell!
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2015, 05:02:36 AM »

One can think it's cowardly and all that, but she has all the right in the world to walk out the door when she feels like it. It's easy to forget that. It is not abuse to leave someone without an explanation.

We can leave our BPD partners and they can leave us whenever they feel like it. And of course it hurts... .like hell!

I agree with this - its not particularly disordered for people to get into a relationship, be initially excited by that relationship as you discover someone new, gradually over the weeks establish that maybe they're not for you, and then arrive at the point where you communicate that fact that its not working for you, and end the relationship. I don't think that in itself is a BPD thing, unless recycles start happening and the same behaviour appears multiple times or with.

I've blocked people after a relationship has ended, too. That's only ever because they've been trying to initiate something that I've already said no to, and I need to enforce that boundary. I think ST is a different thing - the purpose of ST seems to be to illicit a response or generate particular emotions. It seems to be used as a punishment, as a way to communicate displeasure, a deliberate withholding of affection, but most importantly it's a temporary thing. My exBPDbf was a master at it.

I see NC as being different because it's not necessarily an unhealthy way to express your displeasure in someone - it can be a healthy way to enforce a boundary when other things have failed, in that it's a permanent cut-off because you don't want that person in your life anymore.

The problem when you've been in a relationship with a person who has BPD is that you don't always know when it's ST and when it's NC. My ex, for example, has a history of giving the ST to people in his family for years at a time. Literally years. And then he paints them white and re-establishes the relationship. I don't think he does the same thing with ex-partners, but I don't know for sure. What he has been doing to me feels more like ST than NC - he hasn't blocked me anywhere and has, in the past, seemed to leave the odd hook for me to see if I'll respond. Of course I could be imagining that. And of course I may be split black forever so none of it matters anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 09:39:48 AM »

Wow, a lot of great comments. Thanks.

For the record: She did tell me over text that she did not think we were compatible and that was her reason for breaking up. But, we were together sexually the night before. What lead up to this was - I did communicate my feelings for her that evening and she did not reciprocate. She just giggled in that little girl way that she had(she's 42). I did text her the next day and pointied out that she did not reciprocate her feelings to me. An hour later is when I received the text that she did not think we were compatible and she was breakking it off.

I agree, it is her right to break it off and go no contact. The thing that bothers me is it did seem to happen suddenly and she would not show me the respect to discuss things in person vs breaking up over text. I suggested that we get together in person to discuss and she said no that there might be too much sexual tension. Not exactly sure what that meant. I can only surmize that she detached emotionally but if she saw me in person she might find it hard not to have sex with me? Who knows.

I would have just liked more closure or at least a face to face conversation. And, I'll admit, I still want a second chance. I still love her. I'm just not sure what to do at this point. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2015, 11:21:26 AM »

I have been giving a great deal of thought to the Silent Treatment and No Contact here of late.

I grew up in a home where my father was famous for the Silent Treatment.  It was not a good thing.  You never knew what it was that you may have done or said to create it BUT you knew something was going to come down the pike at you, never knowing when or what, which created anxiety - just waiting for it to play itself out.

The first time or two I experienced the Silent Treatment in my marriage I was quick to explain, the above, to my husband.  Call me crazy but it felt like he did more of it!  The more it occurred the more I would shut down and "wait it out."  Very unhealthy. Also wondered if by shutting down I was guilty of the Silent Treatment as well.  Still unsure.

As for No Contact: I separated from my husband just over a year ago.  Tried during that separation to salvage the relationship with zero results.  I filed for divorce 5 weeks ago.  I've been No Contact for 10 weeks. 

I feel so out of sorts.  The No Contact feels just awful in that it just doesn't feel right to have spent 18 years with someone and never speak to them again.  I know it's for the best, I know it must be done, I know there will never be closure, I  know the safest thing for me is to do exactly what I am doing.  BUT IT FEELS HORRIBLE and just goes against my nature.  It's got a vibe of "Silent Treatment" for me and I hate everything about that!

Not sure what I'm trying to say, convey or even ask.  Any thoughts or experiences on what it is I'm going through?

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 07:35:37 AM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 07:47:33 AM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

Make sense?

Oh, yes. Separation anxiety. When my wife left me her view on our current state would change from week to week, without us having had any contact whatsoever. One week we were over, done. Next week we just had a "break". The week after that it was a trial separation. I had just decided it was over so I kept ignoring her messages.

You can't expect a borderline person to leave you and take responsibility for it being final. They don't know what they want. What they want changes from hour to hour. From day to day.

They can be sitting around at home and all of a sudden the good memories come flooding back and then they want you back for as long as the feelings last.

I too grew up with a father like that. And the truth behind that kind of narc tyrant is that their emotions are all over the place and you think you can adjust to it, but you can't. They are unpredictable.

They have everyone on a leash and they are not happy about it. You have to hold the leash yourself. Until then you will be unhappy.

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The last paragraph was in response to Unaware's message.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 08:34:08 AM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

Make sense?

Mine might be a one off of sorts, not sure. Our relationship was in good stead one day and the next day she cut me off entirely. He last message to be was, " our relationship is over... .I've moved out... .don't try to contact me".  Of course I did try to contact her that day, the following wee and a couple of times thereafter. The reaction to those efforts were visits to the police and lawyers to threaten me with a PPO. In my case, she clearly did not leave the lines of communication open ended.
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 10:21:18 AM »

I agree, it is her right to break it off and go no contact. The thing that bothers me is it did seem to happen suddenly and she would not show me the respect to discuss things in person vs breaking up over text.

exBPDgf_Victim,

I understand.

It can be emotional breaking up face to face, it's less emotional for your ex to break-up over text.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2015, 03:52:09 PM »

If it helps anyone my exfiance was shame. She had done "nothing wrong" she was the "victim"   how dare I be hurt , angry or upset! far easier to avoid. she is scared to see or face me. for to face me is to face  her "shame" .

It's all about projective identification they "need to be the victim"

That and in my exs case total user she only needs people , new supply ? I'm not needed dobie who?


Good riddence my friends  , life's too short for any of us to be hung up over people who don't want or don't deserve to be in "our lives" BPD or not .

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2015, 06:07:15 PM »

I'm not sure if my ex was more NPD than BPD. My therapist says NPD. He broke up with me many times, always during a rage, and then we got back together again for increasingly watered down cycles of idealization and ever-worsening episodes of severe devaluation. This last time he completely cut off contact. Blocked me, erased me, literally vanished me from his life, all after a rage episode. My therapist calls this "shunning." She believes in my case it is meant to hurt. In fact she says she believes he did it this way to be sadistic.

So I think there are times, depending on the PD, that the person does it to hurt the other person. My ex did a lot of hurtful things in our relationship. He also did the silent treatment, but this is different. It is definitely what people here are calling a discard, and before he discarded me it was like he had to make sure he went completely scorched earth. Interestingly, though he has shunned me and cut off all contact, he is still smearing me to others.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2015, 07:32:42 PM »

My former friend BPD told me to go away and stay out of her life.  Then, weeks later, she told me to never contact her again.   Less than a month later, she asked if she could live with me.   Once she started idealizing someone new, she discarded me again and said she didn't want to be my friend. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2015, 07:55:26 PM »

It's about protection.  When you have extreme emotions, you take extreme measures to protect them.  There may be times when vindictiveness or spite is involved, but in general it is about walling off emotions that are overwhelming.  Think of it as a firewall.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2015, 08:10:22 PM »

You may of scared her off, she may have felt engulfed. Just try to move on 7 weeks is a long time, it's probably over.
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2015, 08:13:41 PM »

Sorry she left you. Know how that goes. :'(
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2015, 08:17:02 PM »

It's about protection.  When you have extreme emotions, you take extreme measures to protect them.  There may be times when vindictiveness or spite is involved, but in general it is about walling off emotions that are overwhelming.  Think of it as a firewall.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2015, 09:52:09 PM »

It's about protection.  When you have extreme emotions, you take extreme measures to protect them.  There may be times when vindictiveness or spite is involved, but in general it is about walling off emotions that are overwhelming.  Think of it as a firewall.

This is 100% spot on for a "pure Borderline". Sums it up perfectly! Great post!

Another thing to remember is that a lot of people with BPD are simply unable to forgive. Once they feel they've been wronged in some way or pushed beyond a certain point then, they can simply just cut you out of their lives, end of.

For someone that has BPD and is also co-morbid with other PDs then, things can become more complicated. PD or not though, if someone cuts you off and out of their life then you have to respect their decision. It's tough but, if they change their mind and want you back in their life then, they will reach out or at least let you know in some way. The best advice is to focus on yourself, focus on moving forward and becoming a stronger, better, happier person!
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2015, 11:48:09 PM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

Make sense?

I fully agree with this, however in the scenario of my ex she told me to never talk to her again multiple times, and would block me. Then a week to a couple months later she would send me a text with the "Is there anything I can ever do to make us okay?" garbage.
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2015, 08:52:13 AM »

It's not that she went No contact or silent treatment. It's HOW she did it. When I normal person wants out of a relationship, they tell you "it's over" when they do not want to talk to you they tell you "leave me alone"... silent treatment is different because "leave me alone" is never communicated to you. They just simply stop replying to you after they leave you without telling you. Now if she told it's over I wanna break up then she simply does not want to speak to you. It's painful I know.

One can think it's cowardly and all that, but she has all the right in the world to walk out the door when she feels like it. It's easy to forget that. It is not abuse to leave someone without an explanation.

We can leave our BPD partners and they can leave us whenever they feel like it. And of course it hurts... .like hell!

I strongly disagree. In the moment you´re walking out of the door without giving any explanation you´re making things extremely hard for your partner. It is literally an act of kicking someone in the garbage. The person will torture her-/himself for a very long time with the attempt to find an explanation.

You do have the right to walk out of the door. But a responsible person that cares at least to a minimum degree about the people around her/him gives an explanation. It´s not 'cowardly' not to to that. It is trading the avoidance of an uncomfortable feeling while explaining things that lasts for a few minutes or maybe hours for the other person going through pain, anxiety, self-torturing etc. which might last for months or even years.

Putting your needs so far over the well being and maybe even over the health of any other person and especially over a person that trusted you is far beyond my personal moral borders. Of course these borders might differ from other peoples perception.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2015, 10:11:15 AM »

Another thing to remember is that a lot of people with BPD are simply unable to forgive. Once they feel they've been wronged in some way or pushed beyond a certain point then, they can simply just cut you out of their lives, end of.

This spot on describes my ex.  I was cut out of her life with ease, almost like I had never been a part of it.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2015, 03:25:57 PM »

It's not that she went No contact or silent treatment. It's HOW she did it. When I normal person wants out of a relationship, they tell you "it's over" when they do not want to talk to you they tell you "leave me alone"... silent treatment is different because "leave me alone" is never communicated to you. They just simply stop replying to you after they leave you without telling you. Now if she told it's over I wanna break up then she simply does not want to speak to you. It's painful I know.

One can think it's cowardly and all that, but she has all the right in the world to walk out the door when she feels like it. It's easy to forget that. It is not abuse to leave someone without an explanation.

We can leave our BPD partners and they can leave us whenever they feel like it. And of course it hurts... .like hell!

I strongly disagree. In the moment you´re walking out of the door without giving any explanation you´re making things extremely hard for your partner. It is literally an act of kicking someone in the garbage. The person will torture her-/himself for a very long time with the attempt to find an explanation.

You do have the right to walk out of the door. But a responsible person that cares at least to a minimum degree about the people around her/him gives an explanation. It´s not 'cowardly' not to to that. It is trading the avoidance of an uncomfortable feeling while explaining things that lasts for a few minutes or maybe hours for the other person going through pain, anxiety, self-torturing etc. which might last for months or even years.

Putting your needs so far over the well being and maybe even over the health of any other person and especially over a person that trusted you is far beyond my personal moral borders. Of course these borders might differ from other peoples perception.

Thanks for writing this Ex_CB_Partner. I totally agree. Sure everyone has the right to disappear (especially if the relationship is abusive and you fear further abuse) but doing so in an otherwise normal long term relationship is really messed up. There's been times I've wanted out of relationships and I so much would have preferred just not contacting the person anymore and having it go away, but I could never do that to someone I had a close and previously loving relationship with. It's just too cruel and no one deserves to be left like that in limbo with no clue as to what's going on.

My breakup with my BPD ex was super drawn out and I didn't know what was going on. Nobody explicitly said they didn't want to be in the relationship anymore. Any attempts on my part to talk or figure out what was going on were met with either silence or vague mixed messages posted publicly to her social networking page. We weren't living together so I couldn't easily talk to her directly. We were really serious and planning to get married so it's not the kind of thing you just shrug your shoulders and walk away from. There's this constant anxiety where you question when you just walk away from a relationship that meant everything to you when you don't even know what's going on and when you're crossing the line by continuing to try to attempt contact with someone who's not giving you clear signals about what it is they want. It's super nerve-wracking and the stakes are too high.

I don't entirely know why they do this. (At least in my case.) Part of me thought she wanted to throw up as many barriers as she could to protect herself and see how much I would endure to "prove" I cared about her. She could have said at any time she didn't want to hear from me anymore if that's what she really wanted. Simple and done rather than dragging it all out so painfully. The other part of me thinks she cared so little at that point and was so cut off emotionally that she simply didn't care at all what I was going through and maybe enjoyed seeing me hurt to "get back at me" for whatever slight she felt she'd unjustly endured. I don't know. Whatever it is, it's pretty messed up.
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2015, 04:16:07 PM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

Make sense?

I fully agree with this, however in the scenario of my ex she told me to never talk to her again multiple times, and would block me. Then a week to a couple months later she would send me a text with the "Is there anything I can ever do to make us okay?" garbage.

^ Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) ... .unbelievable right?... My BPDex used to do similar things but her behaviour baited me in and now I am in trouble (PO) ... ridiculous
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2015, 04:24:20 PM »

My two cents?  The silent treatment in BPD, as someone pointed out, is dissimilar to a "normal" initiation of No Contact.  Indeed, there's a reason for this, and that is to keep that line of communication/narcissistic supply open.  In a "normal" -- permanent -- break-up, the person will usually say not to make contact again, with the reasonable expectation that such boundary will be respected.  This doesn't apply to all break-ups, of course, but at least it is CLEAR where we stand when such statements are made.

The BPD or NPD person, though, will not typically say that, as the finality of such a statement means that the source of narcissistic supply could effectively be cut off forever.  The silent treatment keeps us waiting with baited breath for their return, whereas a clear-cut "GO AWAY!" would likely signal to us, and them, that there is permanence to the break-up.  By leaving things open-ended, they're holding a rotten carrot in front of us.  Because so many of us were left by a partner with BPD, more or less out of the blue, they know that we are in pain and that they hold the keys to the cabinet with the pain medication, which is re-establishing contact with us whenever they choose to take pity and have mercy on our poor souls.

Make sense?

I fully agree with this, however in the scenario of my ex she told me to never talk to her again multiple times, and would block me. Then a week to a couple months later she would send me a text with the "Is there anything I can ever do to make us okay?" garbage.

^ Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) ... .unbelievable right?... My BPDex used to do similar things but her behaviour baited me in and now I am in trouble (PO) ... ridiculous

Hehe, well, I'm currently getting the silent treatment and enjoying it.  After a rapid recycle (3 days, followed by five days of dicking me around), he reached out again when he was having an emotional crisis.  So, I offered whatever support I could in terms of saying "These people can help you. Do you want me to contact them for you?" and explained to him, at his request, what I had been observing about him over the months.  After that, silence.
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