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 31 
 on: June 29, 2025, 09:53:58 PM  
Started by SoVeryConfused - Last post by SoVeryConfused
My 24-year-old child is still raging at me daily. Says she does not want a relationship. That would be a respite, frankly, if true. She immediately calls back to repeat it. When I stop answering, I'm "ignoring" her.

I've responded that I understand her anger over past things; I'm trying to do things differently. But since I'm not doing the things SHE wants, I'm selfish.

Ex #1: After being sworn at, I text that I care AND I'll talk to her again in a few days. She'll immediately rage call & text. When I don't pick up - I'm rotten and have not changed.

Ex #2: Says we never offer to see her and don't care. Huh??? We've asked to come every weekend! I've driven there and she wouldn't see me.
I try to validate - I see you feel that we don't care.
Her response - Knock it off - I don't "feel." It's true. You don't care. You are horrible.

Ex #3: She's furious we travel in winter. 
We validated - I'm sorry, we didn't know you would feel left alone.
Her response - ok, well, now you know, so you're not going, right?   
Her: I'm not doing well, and you just want to go on vacation (we work). You are horrible.

Ex #4: She calls to tell me she's blocking me. I say, I understand. If you change your mind, I'm here.
Immediately call & call & call to repeat it, and add that I'm selfish, etc.
I usually text and say - I hear you. We can talk tomorrow.
Response - more rage texts and swearing.

I share all this not to burden you, but to give you real-life examples. I suggested we could all try to make a fresh start and try to repair the relationship, but she said no. But then she'll say we don't try. If you can't JADE, what do you do in these calls?

I would welcome your experience.

 32 
 on: June 29, 2025, 05:50:09 PM  
Started by whoboyboyy - Last post by whoboyboyy
Me and a girl I dated 3 years ago reconnected earlier this year. We don’t talk much cause she says she has no phone, and sometimes disappears for days, weeks or months. Hadn’t heard from her in a few months until 2 weeks ago she texted me telling me she thought of me but had no phone. We talked and I told her I hate how she disappears and how I’ve missed her and would like to actually talk to her again. I told her I wish I could go back in time and she said she missed those days and felt the same. She told me if she had a way to talk to me 24/7 she promises she would. Last night I told her I’d drive up to see her anytime, we live in different states. She told me I should come visit. I told her I still get emails from something we both used when we were together but joked since my wife divorced me I don’t need it, she said she also gets emails with my name and says it makes her sad and happy. She joked that she never filed papers to fully divorced me and still had my name tatted. I told her I was surprised, I figured she had gotten it removed. I told her I still have hers and thought about removing it but I didn’t have the heart. I told her I figured she hated me and wanted me dead cause the last thing she said to me 3 years ago was that she didn't miss me at all and to kill myself. I feel like it was a mistake saying that because she’s left me on read this morning and now I’m bummed because I thought things were going good and she wanted to see me again. My heads all over the place now hoping she texts back later or something. Is this normal? Should I not have said I thought of removing her name and figured she hated me Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) I feel so stupid. I don’t wanna lose her again. I think she has some legal/drug issues she dealing with atm so I try not to take when she disappears personally, but it still hurts. I wanna send her another message but I'd rather not make a fool of myself. I was told this was called push pull or something, but I don't really know.

 33 
 on: June 29, 2025, 05:00:47 PM  
Started by eightdays - Last post by eightdays
Divorce courts are overwhelmed with a caseload that never ends.  Since judges don't want to get decisions overturned on appeal, they want the litigants to settle which is why continuances are so common.  Strangely enough, our cases usually do settle, just not at first.

To blend my prior observation with Pook's response, can  you wait until your legal case is over and you get the final decree, then decide whether and how much to say?

As I process this I'm now thinking I'm not gonna say anything, this is not my problem anymore.   Maybe he thinks I don't care at all, I have no idea what she told him.   She has been trying to hurt me in any way she can think of.   I think that is what is at the core of the legal dispute, and why it is not going away without a court order.   She started hanging out at the place I go to and tried to make 'friends' with everybody, and found a new boyfriend that works there that we both happened to know for some time.  So now she has been making out with him in public there.   She is just finally succeeding a bit at hurting me is all.   It is nothing compared to what she has been going through.   This will all pass.

 34 
 on: June 29, 2025, 12:42:31 PM  
Started by sadandtired - Last post by sadandtired
I grew up with a mother who had BPD and now I'm living with an adult daughter exhibiting the same characteristics.  We've been to counseling separately and together.  The irony is she's a licensed therapist.  She justifies her behavior by blaming it onto someone else - whether it's me or one of her friends.  She will project her behavior onto me, and of course it's ok for her to do it but wrong for me.  Name calling and insults are her go to's. She will hold onto her anger for days.  I'm exhausted.

 35 
 on: June 29, 2025, 11:00:15 AM  
Started by aboy - Last post by aboy
Without her getting professional treatment - which she first has to accept she needs, which they rarely do - you’ll get the same cycle which is now clearly running. Plus she now knows that when she’s with a new guy you’re still there for her to go back to if this new relationship fails. BDP’s never want to be alone and her coming back doesn’t mean they want us specifically, they’re filling a needy gap in their emotions.

You’ll see the ‘Three C’s’ mentioned often on the site, which are wise words.. You didn’t Cause it. You can’t Control it. You can’t Cure it.

It’s okay to grieve over the situation - we’ve all done it and many still are grieving to some extent - but you have to try to get on with your life, hard though that is. If you don’t, then not only did she take away your happiness then, you’re letting her do it now, even when you’re not with her and you know you can‘t control her. Double damage.

Even if you still hope she’ll come back and are willing to ride the roundabout again you still owe it to yourself to take care of yourself, mentally and physically. Stay strong, keep busy and active and let your family and friends support you.

Best wishes


Thank you so much for taking the time to write this – it really means a lot. You put things into words that I often struggle to express myself.

I know deep down that you’re right: unless she accepts the need for professional help, this cycle will only repeat itself again and again. I guess what hurts most is seeing how she’s changing in this new relationship – doing things she used to hate, mirroring someone else’s identity so intensely that I barely recognize her anymore. It feels like she’s losing the parts of herself that made her who she was.

With me, she could be herself. And even when things were painful, there was still that raw honesty between us. Now it feels like she’s trying so hard to become someone else just to make this work, and I can’t help but fear that she’ll eventually lose herself in the process.

Still, your reminder about the Three C’s – that I didn’t Cause it, can’t Control it, and can’t Cure it – helps me breathe a little easier. I’ll try to hold on to that as I move forward, even when it’s difficult.

Thanks again for your insight and kindness – it genuinely helps more than you know.

 36 
 on: June 29, 2025, 10:57:12 AM  
Started by aboy - Last post by aboy
Hello and welcome to the family.  I'm so sorry you're still struggling.

BPD relationships go in cycles; they start off amazing because they've found the perfect person in every possible way.  They're so all-in on the relationship that they mirror everything the other person loves and make it a part of themself. 

But over time, they realize that hey, their person isn't perfect (because nobody is) and they begin to second-guess everything.  Maybe there's mood changes or new habits; these things are there to protect themselves from their own self-esteem and a massive fear of abandonment.

Over time, things might escalate, and seemingly little things are suddenly treated like life-shattering things.  That's because the non-BPD person thinks things are fine while the BPD feels like they're in crisis mode.  Everything gets scrutinized, every word, every reaction...they all signal that they're about to have their heart broken.

So what happens?  They get so insecure that they blow up the relationship and flee.

Over time, they enter a new relationship and restart the cycle- the new person is absolutely perfect!  But they're not, and the same self-destructive pattern unfolds.  Before long, they're blowing that relationship up and looking backwards...that old relationship was so much better! 

Maybe they go back or maybe they meet someone new.  Either way, the cycle starts all over again.  And it never stops until they feel completely safe and secure with their person.

Going back to your questions, being blocked is something that happens in the moment, it's a feeling.  Does that means it's forever?  Not at all.

Could she be happy now?  Absolutely...for now.  And maybe the guy is a narcissist, but she doesn't see it yet.

Why did she send the picture?  Who knows, but my guess is that she sees the guy as perfect and when you sent the story, she felt like you were trying to manipulate her.  So she did it back to you.  Maybe it wasn't your intention to harm her, but she's looking at this through a jaded lens.  In her mind, it was absolutely an attack.

Is this the end?  It's different for every BPD, but they all run in cycles in every relationship (with parents, friends, lovers, etc).  If she said that she never gives anyone a second chance, then maybe that's the truth.  But at the same time, she's tried to push you away and you're still around.  Maybe there will be a chance to reconcile...its very hard to guess.

What should you do?  It's been nine months, yet this still sounds pretty raw.  You need to give yourself time to actually heal and grieve this relationship.  You have zero control over what she does, but 100% control over your own path.

Hey, thank you so much for your thoughtful and compassionate message — it truly meant a lot. It's rare to come across someone who sees the full picture with such clarity, not just from the outside, but with real understanding of the cycle, the pain, and the hope that keeps coming back.

I feel like right now, she isn’t being herself at all. She’s doing things she once hated, copying behaviors that never used to feel like her. And I’m scared that in trying to be loved by someone else, she’s slowly losing parts of who she really is.

With me, she could be herself — fully, without having to perform or become someone else to feel safe. That’s what hurts the most: watching someone you love drift further from who they truly are.

But again, thank you — your words reminded me that I’m not crazy for feeling all of this.

 37 
 on: June 29, 2025, 10:56:54 AM  
Started by eightdays - Last post by ForeverDad
So this has dragged out as she and her attorney have delayed and gone back and forth with us for months over it.   We have filed a motion with the court to get a decision on that now and force the issue.

Divorce courts are overwhelmed with a caseload that never ends.  Since judges don't want to get decisions overturned on appeal, they want the litigants to settle which is why continuances are so common.  Strangely enough, our cases usually do settle, just not at first.

To blend my prior observation with Pook's response, can  you wait until your legal case is over and you get the final decree, then decide whether and how much to say?

 38 
 on: June 29, 2025, 08:41:08 AM  
Started by CalmPeace - Last post by Tangled mangled
What I’ve learned is that smear campaign works when they can recruit people who are toxic folks themselves. If those were frenemies then the smear campaigns would expose them and you are able to move forward knowing you didn’t lose healthy friendships.

In my case, my family of origin live I. A different continent but were as toxic as my ex so when my relationship fell apart he didn’t here any use in recruiting my family of origin as I had already cut ties with them. If he continues to relate with them then it’s to his disadvantage as my FOO are users who would only take from him.

 39 
 on: June 29, 2025, 08:31:59 AM  
Started by Tangled mangled - Last post by Tangled mangled
I'm so glad for the positive outcome, but especially for putting a end to that chapter of your life, and starting a new, more hopeful one.  Even if you experience some setbacks, your positive frame of mind will see you through.  If you overcame your past trauma, you can handle just about anything I suspect.  Thanks for sharing, it's nice to read uplifting stories here.



Thank you CC43,
You have been very kind and generous with encouraging words and helpful advice on this board. I remember you shared your sister’s experience with a bpd ex husband and the impact on your nephews. It really helped to know that I wasn’t alone.

Thank you

 40 
 on: June 29, 2025, 07:54:05 AM  
Started by Popcorn27 - Last post by Pook075
I’ve been in therapy with this trauma informed therapist for about two years. Before that it was just a general anxiety therapist which helped a lot for about a year.

Also right now I’m just trying to pass time by doing anything I can that seems fun to me. Video games, reading, tv, working out, chores, friends. I’m working a month long summer camp starting in a week so that should help pass the time by faster.

All good stuff and the summer job sounds like fun!  As long as you're getting out of the house some and getting in exercise, you're on a good path with the help of your therapist.  Part of having a chance of reconciling is being the best possible version of you, and that goes for both physical and mental.  So I'm glad you're focused on both!

She never seemed like someone who had bpd until the split on me. I never noticed her having these mini splits. I feel like a lot of my hope rests in that we had a really good connection which is probably why she split anyways and the fact that she’s in therapy and her bpd doesn’t seem as severe as some others I have read about. But obviously it’s been three months and the only contact has been her blocking me even more.



My ex wife and daughter both had BPD, but they acted completely different.  My kid was traditional BPD with everything outward in explosive anger, while my wife was quiet and reserved....preferring to suffer in silence and hide all her pain.  Both went through the same thing, they just processed it differently so it doesn't look the same.

Quiet BPD is vastly more common and it's rarely diagnosed.  Yet the end result is often the same with the sudden, explosive breakup.

Keep your head up though and focus inward on your own wellbeing.  You'll eventually have another conversation and I hope it works out the way you want it to.

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