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 on: January 07, 2026, 04:21:29 PM  
Started by tXres200 - Last post by tXres200
Every episode of disregulation of my partner turns into her slinging anger and disdain at me. Doesn’t matter who she is actually mad at. This time it was a conflict with our five year old who was acting out. Her emotional reaction escalated his. Then she took her anger out on me because I wasn’t “trying to emotionally connect with  to her”.
I am at the end of my rope. I don’t even want to go home or be around her in the days following these conflicts. I spiral into a bout of fear and anxiety. I feel the anxiety creep up each time she texts me about our relationship. We agreed not to text about emotions and she continues to violate that boundary.
Our last marital counselor refused to acknowledge her BPD characteristics. I am looking for a new one. I hate this. I deserve to be happy.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 02:52:57 PM  
Started by LovingBPD - Last post by SuperDaddy
Hi SuperDaddy, Not sure if this will work with all BPDs. With my uBPDw, any such matter of fact utterances by me (even when she is calm and not raging) will be registered and used with maximum effect during future splitting/raging sessions. she would not forget it even after several years as it  would be a reminder of the limits of her control / manipulation.

The way I wrote it here may have seemed unembellished, but I didn't say all of that at once. It was a back-and-forth conversation where the pieces came one at a time. And I was being careful enough to not say anything that would offend her. I know that those statements would not offend her because frequently in her outbursts she says that she made a bad choice, that she is still young, and that she will find another man, so all of what I said is just more of my agreement with her own statements. And I was not saying it out of anger.

What do you think?

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 on: January 07, 2026, 02:26:08 PM  
Started by SuperDaddy - Last post by SuperDaddy
Have you ever told her that her behaviour is so bad that it's seriously making you want to leave? How do you think she would react to this, would it make her think or would it just trigger her more?

Yes, she is aware. I have been asking her to leave for over one year now. I think she wasn't taking it too seriously because I would say it in the conflict days only, so she didn't see consistency. It's very difficult to communicate it without generating an angry and childish "I also don't want you" response. But the trick is to wait for those days in which she is trying to reapproximate (pull mode) and then communicate it right when reconciliation is expected. With that approach, she then took it seriously. After many attempts to talk it out with her, we have actually made an agreement, but I'll leave that to another post. Don't want to add a spoiler here.

As for her being more quiet when full of cold, I think being ill makes us all a lot quieter and not so bothered about anything - we just want to get well again. I'm sure you're appreciating the calm period though.

Yes, when she is ill, she doesn't shout as much and has less energy but still says awful stuff.

But what happened yesterday was a sudden change. Suddenly she jumped into pull mode, full strength. I could see it in her eyes, so I kissed her and confirmed the reversal. Surprised with the speed of the unflip (about one hour), I waited for the next day and then asked her what happened. With some effort, we figured out it was because she talked to the kids a bit in the kitchen, and that conversation cooled her off. As she talks to them, she also gets self-insight and feels guilty for making them hear all of the disgusting stuff that's directed to me during her outbursts.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 02:05:38 PM  
Started by Me88 - Last post by Pook075
oooh, I feel dumb now Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) but yeah, there's always those doubts, especially with the way people with BPD just move on like nothing happened and 'seem' happy. It makes you think, 'damn, was I really that bad and crazy? they were right and are doing way better while I'm here crushed'.

Just nice to hear a year isn't super long given these relationships. Regular people tend to start dating asap and it confuses me.

I personally waited about a year to date and I found out that I still had some insecurities to work through.  Not that I was doing anything wrong, but someone would do something so out of character when compared to my BPD-ex that I'd catch myself thinking about the past. For the record- that's super unhealthy and it was difficult to deal with, LOL.  It was 100% on me though.

You'll be ready to date again once you're ready- don't sweat the timelines.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 01:58:33 PM  
Started by LovingBPD - Last post by awakened23
I told her that it is pointless to discuss this, because people that are controlling don't change, so she made a bad choice, but she still can divorce and perhaps find a non-controlling husband. For someone else watching the scene from the outside, it might seem like a joke, but for her it did sink in and make her think about it. Maybe it's because she would never get that kind of response from her parents. Definitely not from her father.

Have you ever tried anything similar?  Smiling (click to insert in post)

Hi SuperDaddy, Not sure if this will work with all BPDs. With my uBPDw, any such matter of fact utterances by me (even when she is calm and not raging) will be registered and used with maximum effect during future splitting/raging sessions. she would not forget it even after several years as it  would be a reminder of the limits of her control / manipulation.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 01:32:27 PM  
Started by campbembpd - Last post by PeteWitsend
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Mom is concerned about the amount my wife drinks but doesn't say anything, not really. Then mom will listen to my wife (who is very convincing) that we just need to get back to couples counseling so she becomes a flying monkey asking why I'm refusing to go back to couples therapy. Mom will say things like it takes 2 to argue. She's in denial there's a serious mental illness but the way her mom talks sometimes is she hints maybe we can't work it out maybe we end up divorced. Sadly I think sometimes her mom is convinced that maybe all these issues will just poof and go away if we do divorce.

Ugh.  Yeah, she's probably been in denial for a long time, and your marriage gave her a new excuse to pin her daughter's behavior on.  Who knows what it was before that. 

I would operate going forward on the assumption that your wife's parents will be entirely on her side in every way, especially if or once you file for divorce, or once it becomes likely you will.  They're going to pin this all on you then & look to screw you on behalf of their daughter.  Any sympathy they may have for you and concern about their daughter's behavior and drinking will evaporate immediately.  If they get called in as witnesses, expect them to do things like testify she never drank before marriage, or wild stuff like that.  It sounds like they have the means to afford adequate legal representation to drag things out (they're paying for international trips for the whole family).  Be super careful here. 

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 on: January 07, 2026, 01:23:27 PM  
Started by campbembpd - Last post by PeteWitsend
Concerning taxes, there is typically a financial benefit to file a joint return.  However, getting a signature can be daunting.  I filed for the standard extension but since we had just separated, it took the lawyers to convince her to sign, yes, with days to spare.

Depending on what transpires over the next several months, you may have to weigh the financial discount of joint filing versus filing separately due to her poor withholding choices and lack of cooperation.  If you do file separately then dump that in the Consequences folder.

yeah, I negotiated during our divorce settlement that I would be able to claim my D on my taxes (since she gets the child support income tax free!).  Unfortunately b/c under the IRS rules BPDxw would be able to claim our daughter since she lives there more than 50% of the time, I have to file a separate IRS form, which BPDxw has to sign, agreeing to this.

She could sign the form "for all future years" and be done with it.  And she can revoke this authorization at any time, so there's no reason not to!  but every year she refuses, and every year I have to spend a month cajoling her to sign the form... and she "loses it" or "her printer doesn't work" etc. and so I need to mail her a copy, and then have our daughter take her a copy, and it delays my own filing. 

Just a call out of the sort of irritating things that you have to deal with and don't consider during the divorce process. 

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 on: January 07, 2026, 01:19:54 PM  
Started by Me88 - Last post by Me88
oooh, I feel dumb now Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) but yeah, there's always those doubts, especially with the way people with BPD just move on like nothing happened and 'seem' happy. It makes you think, 'damn, was I really that bad and crazy? they were right and are doing way better while I'm here crushed'.

Just nice to hear a year isn't super long given these relationships. Regular people tend to start dating asap and it confuses me.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 12:32:35 PM  
Started by Me88 - Last post by Pook075
It's a fair question. And I'll say in the past I was always too available to people. I really stepped back this past year because I just couldn't function and handle it. I still help when I can, but it's on my terms and I'm ok saying no now. As far as traumas, I talk about that with my therapist and it's always quite vague and confusing. I am so lucky to have two parents who are married 42 years now. Our family dynamic was great and my sisters and I have a wonderful relationship too. There was no abuse in my family, no neglect, no drugs/alcohol issues. The only 'trauma' I've known of was being bullied horribly up through 7th grade or so? And what I've learned from that was it made me shrink myself and accept bad treatment and have no boundaries because it felt like 'at some point it'll stop and things will go back to normal'...which is how I've been with women. I just accept bad treatment because it always gets 'good' again. I am working on that, but my issue is learning what my boundaries look like and how to enforce them.

I've done the exercise, diet, hobbies, go out thing, and sure it keeps me occupied. Sometimes it does feel like I'm doing too many things, but I slow down.

And the thing is, I might be framing it wrong, but I'm not totally against somehow meeting a nice woman. I wouldn't hide or ignore or be rude. I just don't want to pursue anything. The idea overwhelms me actually, when in the past I was energized, confident and eager to have fun and spend time with a special person.

By "traumas of the past", I was referring to your previous relationship and everything that transpired.  It's sometimes easy to carry that guilt and blame of who the BPD said you were, instead of just accepting that they were mentally ill and at times abusive.  It's hard to completely let go of that and even year out, that's not a super-long period of time.

You'll know when it's time to date again and it probably has to do with meeting the right one.

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 on: January 07, 2026, 11:58:34 AM  
Started by Zosima - Last post by PeteWitsend
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I guess I'll wrap up with some thoughts about validation.  On these boards you'll find tips about validating feelings, not lies.  That's good advice.  But in practice, I've found that talking endlessly about negative feelings and purported slights/abuse/grievances is counter-productive.  You see, the pwBPD doesn't seek context, perspective, understanding or closure.  She's not looking for resolution, or to move on.  My opinion is that the more she rehashes the negative feelings and accusations out loud, the worse she gets.  I think if you "validate" her too much, what's happening is that you're essentially rewarding her negative thinking patterns with attention, and she's incentivized to continue!  So in my experience, I think that a time out might work better.  I guess that's why the recommended treatment for BPD isn't talk therapy (i.e. to explore thoughts and feelings for greater understanding and self-knowledge), but DBT.

I don't think you should look at validation as an end in an of itself; it's a technique to prevent conversations from blowing up into larger fights or blame games.  But you still have to find a way to end the conversation. 

All this is easier said than done, I know, but maybe you can try using their own language against them.  The "I don't feel" and "You don't seem to be" etc. kind of statements.

I've also considered that validation might be the first step, but then repeating & rephrasing their attacks and unhinged statements back at them can take some of the wind out of their sails, and force them to retract things or otherwise calm down to try to parse out what's happening. 

"I'm sorry, I understand you're upset, but you think because I looked at my phone, I'm intentionally ignoring you?"

"When you said XYZ, it sounds like you feel bla bla bla.  I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from here."

I tried this sort of thing; I also tried the "leave the room to defuse the fight, but do it kindly," technique, which is really hard to do when someone is screaming at you for no reason, or insulting you.  I'd find that sometimes validating and repeating that I loved her and she didn't need to worry or feel anxious about it would temporarily defuse things.  Sometimes (I can count the number on one hand), it would be the last I'd hear about that one concern.  More often (I do not have enough hands to count the number) the next day, or a few days later, I'd hear "I was thinking about our discussion from yesterday/last week, and I still think that bla bla bla..." and the hair on the back of my neck would stand up as I knew she was going to keep hacking away at this until she was able to provoke a fight - over it or whatever other perceived slight she could come up with in the moment.   

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