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 81 
 on: November 01, 2026, 09:30:13 PM  
Started by AlleyOop23 - Last post by zachira
You are human and it is normal to feel anger and or/avoidant sometimes about how your soon to be ex wife treats you. With time and practice, you will be less impacted by what she does, yet occasionally you will just get angry, and this happens at times to all of us who have to interact with a disordered ex because there are minor children involved. It can help to remember that underneath the anger can be sadness and getting in touch with the sadness can often soften and soothe the anger.

 82 
 on: November 01, 2026, 07:31:10 PM  
Started by AlleyOop23 - Last post by AlleyOop23
It's been almost 3 years and I am 99% divorced.  Final orders pending. I kept a restraining order against my (I forget the acronyms) undiagnosed bpd ex (UBPDX? - that doesn't look right).  She can only message me. I can see there will always be issues. She is constantly complaining, resurrecting grievances, attempting scheduling changes at the last minute, hitting me up for money beyond what she's entitled to receive (by AGREEMENT mind you) but I'm not writing about dealing with any of THAT today. Today, only this: I've come a long ways finding and enforcing boundaries, "letting go of the rope" (see earlier threads) but I am not always able to get the toxic emails just roll off me. Sometimes I just think 'well yeah that's on brand' when i read them. But sometimes I know there's a long accusatory message waiting for me and I spend time avoiding OFW. Or i read the toxic email and it actually gets to me, like all those things used to. I try to observe and not absorb. I am wondering if anyone has any advice on how to better manage mindset around these things. Perhaps it just takes time. Oh - sometimes I just get angry. She'll message on a Thursday unilaterally changing the schedule for Friday and I let her know I'm upset about that, but all that ever gets is more silliness and more messages. Completely unproductive.  [Not looking for advice on the schedule disruption, we have a statute here i can use for that and I'm just waiting until the final orders are signed].

 83 
 on: November 01, 2026, 03:51:08 PM  
Started by NTWMever - Last post by Sancho
Sorry - one more question

Would it be usual for DD to be in touch with another person either regularly or in these circumstances?

 84 
 on: November 01, 2026, 03:48:55 PM  
Started by Alz123 - Last post by Under The Bridge
I forgot to mention that this may be the time to start keeping records of any texts or email messages between you and your husband, especially if things are going badly.
If you read other threads you'll see that when it comes to actual seperations, the BPD can 'play dirty' when they get desperate - making false statements and accusations, etc.

Usually it's the non-BPD male partner who suffers from the female BPD making false  accusations as authorities are always more likely to blame the man for any incidents but the reverse can apply too.

Hopefully things will go relatively smoothly without major drama but alway remember you're dealing with someone who has no rules to follow so protect yourself at all times anf try and keep proof what was said and done.

 85 
 on: November 01, 2026, 03:48:09 PM  
Started by NTWMever - Last post by Sancho
Hi NTWMaver
It sure is a difficult and anxious time for you. One thing strikes me - you say 'again' and it has prompted a few questions in my mind.

How often has this happened and how long has your DD remained apart? How did it resolve?

I wondering about patterns. When I became aware of my DD's pattern it was very helpful.

Hope you don't mind the questions.

 86 
 on: November 01, 2026, 03:07:00 PM  
Started by zachira - Last post by zachira
I was out of town for several weeks. A woman who walks in the same park as I do on a regular basis had been talking to me about her problems. I listened and tried to be nice. When I returned from vacation, I saw her two times and was unavailable to talk with her as I was busy catching up with someone else, so I just said hello. The third time I ran into her, I was walking with another person, introduced her to this person. She got mad, said "I thought I was number one with you." then proceeded to start to tell me some gossip. She never acknowledged the person I introduced her to. I walked away with the other person.

I now know I am in for it. She had previously shared with me for several months how angry she was with this married man who tried to go out with her. I now feel she is likely borderline, and mistakes relationships for being much closer than they actually are. I am sure to be targeted for a smear campaign.

I take responsibility for having extremely poor boundaries with her. I listened to her telling me things like she had been sexually molested as a child. I listened to her gossip about this married man who is extremely angry with her, who no longer speaks to me.

All of this is a reenactment of my listening to my mother with BPD for hours on end, telling me all kinds of inappropriate things in which the conversation was one long one sided rant. Time to get back to working on my boundaries while weathering the discomfort of regularly running into her on my daily walk in the park.

 87 
 on: November 01, 2026, 01:53:36 PM  
Started by Prouncer - Last post by CC43
So when I'd get an unhinged accusation like "You're planning on doing XYZ!" I would just assume "Oh, she's either thinking of doing that herself, feels guilty, and is projecting that on to me to cope, or she actually did XYZ, feels guilty, and is going on the attack so she can remain the victim in her mind."

Pete, I feel I have to interject here, because you've touched on one of my all-time most despised pet peeves:  being accused of something I haven't even done (yet).  The pwBPD traits in my life went through a phase of accusing me of futuristic events:  You're going to ruin this, you're going to anger me, you're just going to b* anyway so I'm not doing the favor you asked me, etc.  It occurred so often that I found myself repeating:  I'm not discussing something that hasn't happened.  I'm not discussing something that hasn't happened.  I'm not discussing something that hasn't happened.  (Exit stage left).  It's like they assume the worst for every scenario imaginable and enjoy getting riled up over fantasy.  You're absolutely right, it's part of the victim narrative that they are creating.  There's some delusional thinking too. 

 88 
 on: November 01, 2026, 12:40:48 PM  
Started by Alz123 - Last post by Alz123
Sorry, that was poor wording on my part - in the case of still being married or with children and joint commitments of course you can't just break off completely. I meant 'no contact' in the sense of not wanting to keep the relationship going while sorting out joint responsibilities.

I think I was fortunate in my case that we didn't live together, had no children or any financial dependancy upon each other, so it was possible to make a clinical and clean break.


No need to apologise. Yes, I probably need to keep it to practical arrangements only. It's like how I'd imagine coming off an addictive substance would be - one day at a time! I have refrained from contacting him today.

I appreciate all your support!


 89 
 on: November 01, 2026, 12:24:44 PM  
Started by Alz123 - Last post by Under The Bridge
I don't think I can go total no contact. We are still married so will need to keep things fairly reasonable to ensure that goes as smoothly as possible.
Sorry, that was poor wording on my part - in the case of still being married or with children and joint commitments of course you can't just break off completely. I meant 'no contact' in the sense of not wanting to keep the relationship going while sorting out joint responsibilities.

I think I was fortunate in my case that we didn't live together, had no children or any financial dependancy upon each other, so it was possible to make a clinical and clean break.

 90 
 on: November 01, 2026, 11:57:51 AM  
Started by not2old2change - Last post by zachira
Marriage counselors often have a no secrets policy which includes being upfront about what the goals of both spouses are. Many times, one spouse's goal is to end the marriage in the best way possible, and it undermines the therapy if this spouse does not make this clear from the beginning in the presence of the other spouse and counselor. Marriage counselors can be very helpful if the agendas of both spouses are clear from the very beginning. The no secrets policy involves the counselor being clear that whatever one spouse shares in private with the marriage counselor will be shared with the other spouse if it will undermine the counseling and would be interpreted as an unfair alliance of the counselor with one spouse.

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