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 81 
 on: May 16, 2026, 02:29:06 PM  
Started by zachira - Last post by ForeverDad
I knew from day one that this man was bad news yet I was nice to him. Nothing he ever said rang true. So I have no idea what his true agenda is, and maybe he is indeed homeless, broke, etc., At any rate, he is looking to take advantage of a woman.

I saw a clip of President Reagan telling one of his life lesson jokes.  A girl came up to him and he asked what she wanted to do when she grew up and she said "I want to help the homeless."  Her parents looked so proud of her.  He said, "Why not come to my home, cut the grass, sweep the driveway and I'll give you $50 to give to the homeless."  She pondered that then asked, "Why not let the homeless do that work and earn the $50 themselves?"  The president replied, "Welcome to my way of thinking."

 82 
 on: May 16, 2026, 01:41:17 PM  
Started by zachira - Last post by zachira
TelHill and Notwendy, you both get it, how the smear campaign works.                                                                                                 

 83 
 on: May 16, 2026, 01:24:00 PM  
Started by zachira - Last post by zachira
The quote above from TelHill makes perfect sense to me and to Notwendy.  Thank you TelHill for this one. I have a lot of practicing to do in setting boundaries with abusive people. I let them get away with too much and then it is more difficult to set the appropriate boundaries. As the family scapegoat, I got too used to appeasing abusive people. I no longer have to do that most of the time, though there are situations in which being nice and getting away fast makes sense. 

I have not seen the man in the park since telling him I do not want to go to the restaurant with him. He used to seem to be waiting for me. I think he was told by another abusive man that I know that I am an easy target. I knew from day one that this man was bad news yet I was nice to him. Nothing he ever said rang true. So I have no idea what his true agenda is, and maybe he is indeed homeless, broke, etc., At any rate, he is looking to take advantage of a woman. 

 84 
 on: May 16, 2026, 01:09:46 PM  
Started by zachira - Last post by zachira

I don't believe he's looking for friendship. Men often say that if they feel there's a chance to wear you down for a date. I'd be wary if he knows you own a condo. He might give you a sob story about being evicted, losing his job, etc., to move in for free rent. You'll never get rid of him.

It used to be very hard for me too. It takes practice and a few times of being taken advantage of to kick your instincts to protect yourself into permanent high gear.

 85 
 on: May 16, 2026, 12:36:42 PM  
Started by Me88 - Last post by TelHill
Sorry that happened! I've been the target of a pwBPD in my family relating to work. It's astounding that someone would mess with your ability to earn a living.

It doesn't sound like an every day thing which is good. You can note down what happened to protect yourself if the stalking begins again. You might have a case with HR or an ombudsman.

Hopefully she'll fade from your life and you won't have to deal with this disordered person again.

 86 
 on: May 16, 2026, 11:51:14 AM  
Started by hotchip - Last post by PeteWitsend
A really funny thing my mother used to do was accuse me of putting her in a nursing home and it was like, 'i'm five years old, and you're not in a nursing home.'

if you can recognize how absurd her behavior was, you should be able to do the same with your Ex.  His claims - e.g. denying he asked you to move out when you have the texts of him doing just that - are essentially as ridiculous as your mom's were. 

I think Notwendy is right in seeking counseling for these issues.  I think counseling can be helpful to identify these "blind spots" in our thinking.  If you know they're there, you won't get so tripped up, or triggered when you encounter them, so to speak. 

Like running into your ex-... the guy sounds like a real piece of work, and you shouldn't be surprised he'd openly lie to you.  Knowing that, you can mentally put some guard rails around the things he says and does. 

It also sounds to me like you might have an unhealthy attraction to him still and that's clouding your judgment. 

 87 
 on: May 16, 2026, 11:41:56 AM  
Started by Ozzie101 - Last post by PeteWitsend
Fights about my family were a major issue during my marriage to BPDxw and a trigger for the fight that more or less ended it (was really just the straw that broke the camel's back at that point... I was at my end). 

It seems like once they get this in them, it's almost too "good" of a source of drama and fighting for them to let go.

I think you should realize that the issues are entirely his own sense of inferiority and anxiety, and nothing you can say or do, nor anything your parents can say or do will address it.  So I think it's better to focus on what he feels like would make it easier for him to deal with...maybe better for him not to come to visits at their house?  Set the stage carefully so he can't later claim you didn't want him to come.  Same maybe with visits to his mom's house. 

Use phrases like "It's important to me that you come to as you are my husband, but if you'd rather stay home, I respect that and you can make that decision."

That might help reduce conflict a bit, although I'm sure he'll still be difficult about things.  But framing the options so they appear to be in control can help take the wind out of their sails when it comes to throwing a tantrum and blowing up about things. 

 88 
 on: May 15, 2026, 10:37:18 PM  
Started by Me88 - Last post by SinisterComplex
This is true. I just get frustrated with it all. Because me, as what I consider a relatively stable adult...would never go out of my way to be around someone I apparently 'hated' in any capacity. This person pushed me away, made her friends/family hate me, spread rumors at work...then hides around trying to catch glimpses of me or hear me. Just confusing and annoying. It's just a weird feeling knowing this is gonna happen forever. I just hope she doesn't start getting more comfortable or bold. It seems pathetic to a lot of people that I still 'care' this much, but I don't know.

First, who gives a Sh*t what other people think. Do You. The people who judge you simply do not have the capacity to understand or comprehend...that is common so just accept that in their own way they are supporting you.

There is nothing wrong with caring, but just do so from a safe distance that's all. All you can really do in relation to her is to be firm and indifferent. You already know the Sh*t show circus will continue for her which yes is sad, but that is the nature of what ails her and the best thing for you is to keep a distance so you are not collateral damage and getting hit by shrapnel.

Cheers and Best Wishes!

-SC-

 89 
 on: May 15, 2026, 01:57:44 PM  
Started by hotchip - Last post by ForeverDad
If we had a Fault Scale to measure the proportional amount of "fault", and if you honestly consider the fault you shoulder, you'd have to conclude - if you can weigh the facts - the disordered person would have the lion's share.  Yet, contrary to the reality, we've been indoctrinated the opposite due to the years and relentless intensity of "It's All Your Fault!"

The Bridge
The Backyard Black Hole
There's a Hole in My Sidewalk

 90 
 on: May 15, 2026, 12:50:48 PM  
Started by Heartbroken 40s - Last post by Heartbroken 40s
First a little history for context.  Please bear with me, but I think it's important.  My ex an I met in 2021 through online common community in a hobby we both liked.  After 6 months of talking and getting to know each other, and yes flirting, I decided to drive down to her in 2022.  In which we started officially started dating.  I originally went down there with not knowing if casual or hookup or serious or what it would be, but after meeting, I saw a woman I truly liked and respected, and while intamacy was present pretty quick, I actually restrained from full act and an offer because 2 reasons, I respected her more than a temp fling and it felt wrong, hard to explain but like she was acting like that's what I wanted vs truly wanting to be intimate.  Anyways, the 1st year was great, but by by 2023 things were already getting confusing for me.  I went to see her again, fell in love because we shared deeper emotional talks and times at places like hobby stores, town square, and innocent late nights at park.  I also met family for first time, in which I told her I was nervous and it be awkward.  Yet, when I was meeting family, she wasn't by my side, she hid in bedroom with the dogs listening to music while I sat alone at table.  She stayed in house when we all went outside.  I felt alone, yet took blame when she said I was very awkward that night when we left early.  Later that year, she told me a story of a friend very close to her and her family dying, including funeral pics.  I discovered all fake, and when I brought this fakeness up she doubled down and got really upset.  I dropped it.  I rented a house near her in 2024, brought my dog down, and we spent over a week in house.  I provided a dinner for just her dad and us.  Again, she hid playing and staying occupied with dog, while I got to know her father and we talked, plus he told me he had a dark past he regrets in his youth and that he appreciated me looking out for his daughter.   Later that year I visited again, for she would not come to me even with job loss and no place of her own, ..for her birthday.  We had nice time, but again when I met her family for bday BBQ, I and her family sat outside bsing while she stayed in house the entire night.   I must add that she was also using a fake persona online related to fake story of friend who died, including his whole family in car accident, that was beautiful girl that lived in Alaska, married to another woman after turning from straight to lesbian, and rich.  I didn't even confront this lie.  Also, while intimacy was present, I could see she was uncomfortable with it. she wouldn't change in front of me, she locked bathroom door still, she avoided certain things, and while I was very open and she had no problem with that, it was like being around a 16 yr old.  We never had full on "intamacy" and I took blame for that too.  But I couldn't, it felt forced and I loved and respected her too much.  I'm not going to get into full details, but now through counseling, it is highly suspected she probably had vaginismus,  which explains alot of the small details,  and I didn't know much about this condition until now.  The mind may want, actions may show, but deep down the traumatic body locks down.  Finally by end of 2024, she explicitly wanted me to sell my home and quit my career to be with her, the fact if I chose her and truly and clearly loved her, I do that.  Again after knowing her since 2021 and 3 full years together, she still wasn't comfortable leaving her zone for a bit and visiting me or trial living arrangements with me even though she was still careerless and living at home.  2025 got bad, 2 things occured.  Her father got ill and she started really devaluing me, but I put up with it cause I knew/thought she was struggling with alot.  Lack of career, fear of being alone, and father being ill.  We had alot of talks of our relationship, especially when she wanted me to drop everyrhing to be there for her and wouldn't make any compromises.  I tried to understand, especially with family illness, but I also had to be stable on emotionally and financially.   She started hanging out with new friends, all guys, and telling me half truths.   I tried to be trusting and understanding, but her personality was changing.  I couldn't give her a strong answer about relationship as she said I abandoned her?, but I also couldn't and wouldn't lie about false futures.  In November she told me she couldnt wait to stay with me for a few months and mentioned marriage, all to take it away at end of month.  She still wanted me there for holidays with her and her family,  which I agreed, and wanted to talk about relationship.  By mid Dec her father got worse, I rushed down there early.   Her family was very welcoming.  I was there for hospital, hospice, passing, wake, and beautiful for situation family xmas eve dinner.  Xmas morning I fixed her car, and she said she needed to get out for a little because house felt filled with grief and memories of father now empty.  I understood.  Yet, she stayed out all day and night, not showing back to 26th at 8am in tears.  Abandoning me bit again I couldn't argue for she just lost someone, I just held her.  I helped her move into another families house as she said shes not ready, yet last minute wanted to go with me.  I told her she can't, she is only daughter and has to wrap up adulting like funeral, bills, and mail.  I helped pay some of those bills.  Later she said I abandoned her again, but I know it would of been running away from a heavy issue.  Just never said anyrhing, but we had plans to come together in March of this year (2026).  She broke up with me jan 1st.  Told me a ton of confusing half truths.  I still helped with funeral expenses like I promised, help not cover all.  In feb she cancelled march get together, said we need to stop talking.  In march after I wrote her a heart felt letter, she texted we aren't anyrhing, it's purely transactional, out of goodness of my heart am I going to still help like I promised.  She seriously couldn't remember all I did, I proved it with receipts, and said I feel like im being used at this point, in which she snapped and now I am fully villain and evil.  She can't remember anything I did over the 4.3 years or at the end.  We don't talk, and completely nc, although I was having a hard time and checked her social media until may 1st.  I'm just so hurt she can't remember me and all I did.  She split hard.

Over those years I saw the intmacy issues and uncomfortability but took the blame as I could take it, I learned all her hurt and saw through the shields when we deeply talked and she dropped guard, I knew most of her trauma, a lost childhood, a father with a VERY DARK past, losing mom at young teenager, losing everyone close to her, and so many signs of other trauma.  Yet I loved her, and wanted to show her stability, love, and care was real and good man was possible.  That she was deserving.  My own counseling has brought to light many of things I didn't know but intuition was good.  That her lies and fake personas was a shield to protect fragile vulnerability, escapism to avoid extreme real hurt, not manipulation.  That her childhood trauma and fear of alone and abandonment was high signs of bpd, and other actions and conversations recorded in text showed petulant bpd.  That she most likely monkey branched, not for a new bf, but to get out of relationship and emotions related to a relationship to a safer feeling best friend brother type without ever being truly alone.  Her validation needs weren't because my failure, but to fill a cup with a hole in bottom to make herself feel better temporarily.  I wanted to show and love her so much, make her realize she didn't need mask, I wasn't going anywhere with the truth, but it made her bounce from idealized to devalue so many times, to final hard discard.   Now, I worry without her recognizing her self hurt pushing those that truly care away, and her family not knowing, understanding, or caring about what she's been through, I have deep hurt in heart that she will get hurt badly again.  Something she doesn't deserve, she's been through enough.  Yet, I am also having a genuinely hard time letting go internally, healing myself for I just want to make sure she's OK and gets the guidance she needs, no strings attached, no ulterior motive.  The fact she at the end thought I was a normal guy that played or spoiled her just for sex hurts, especially since we never went that far.  She also blamed me for never being there, abandoning her, and not doing the act of true love of selling home and quitting job, which yes hurts, but was unrealistic since she never visited me, everything was on me, she never lived with me so we could make a plan as partners as next step in life as I was willing to change everyrhing but needed just a little support, compromises, and planning.  I understand through counseling that love and sacrifice can't heal someone, especially as hurt as she is and she does need counseling to get diagnosed and better especially with healthy regulation and expectations of real life as life isn't a movie, but at same time there's a pit in my heart and gut that knows she truly is alone because noone sees her and knows like I do, and fake validation and friends that are temporary and only into surface masks will end up really hurting her.  Let's face it, guys will see her need for validation and use it or try to.  Which will further her deep hurt and thinking guys just want sex and are evil.   It's heartbreaking when all you want is a good safe enjoyable life for someone you will always love and care about, but can't do anything about.  Especially when she has painted me black for feelings she has to cover facts. 

Btw, 2 different counselors said it was good that I didn't break shields or confront lies, as it might of traumatized her worse knowing that I know dark and sad truths, and grief of internal buried memories might of made her lose control of real life.


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