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 on: August 21, 2026, 08:27:53 AM  
Started by SillyScapegoat - Last post by zachira
You are far from alone in being the family scapegoat. The damage done to your mental and physical health during your life time is immeasurable. Do take time to feel your sadness over your mother's recent meltdown. She is using you to avoid being accountable for how she feels about herself.

In my large extended disordered family, there is at least one scapegoat in every generation along with many golden children enabled by the flying monkeys. I am the scapegoat of my generation. What has helped me the most was EMDR therapy and setting healthier boundaries with the whole family. I am a work in progress, though saddened by a lifetime of abuse, am in much better mental and physical health since I set limits on how much I would interact with the disordered family members.

There are many members here who understand what it is like to be a family scapegoat. Do post as often as you need to. I have been on this site for many years and am in a much better place than when I first became a member.

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 on: August 21, 2026, 07:55:32 AM  
Started by Inforthelonghaul - Last post by CC43
Hi Haul,

Welcome to the group.  Please feel free to read through some posts--my guess is that many themes will resonate with you.

If you care to share, what seems to be the biggest issue for you currently?  Is your daughter living with you?  Has she been school or busy with a job, even if it's only for a few days here and there?  Is she getting therapy?

Look, I understand having trouble wrapping your mind around a BPD diagnosis.  I have been similarly skeptical sometimes too.  On the one hand, your daughter was younger when she got a diagnosis, and many of the behaviors probably seemed "typical," albeit extreme, for teenagers--the impulsiveness, the entitlement, the anger, the emotional rollercoaster, the tantrums, the jealousy, the apparent "trying out" of different identities.  These are all human emotions, after all.  But my guess is that your daughter took things farther, perhaps with threats or attempts of self-harm.  That would typically land her in a hospital.

However, in an adult, I'd say these behaviors seem increasingly out of place.  Let's face it, only close family members will tolerate such erratic, extreme behavior.  And perhaps slowly but surely, your dear daughter will feel "rejected" by others, which is ironic, because what she probably wants more than anything is to feel cherished and accepted.  Has your daughter lost all her friends?  Is she discovering she's not functioning well as an emerging adult?  Is she too needy and demanding of others--for attention, affection, admiration, money, help, emotional management?  Does she lash out when her exacting needs aren't being met?  Does she self-medicate with illicit substances?  I'd say, that's all typical BPD.

It's true that the label of BPD might sound perjorative.  The way I see it though is that your daughter is probably wired to be extra sensitive, and that can be an asset sometimes.  Yet since she's so sensitive, she experiences life as a seemingly never-ending series of traumas, by things that probably wouldn't bother her peers, not nearly as much.  She has very low frustration tolerance.  She perceives social slights when none were intended.  She tends to give up way too easily.  She takes everything too personally.  She's emotionally and physically exhausted by everyday life, and she thinks it's just too overwhelming.  She hasn't learned emotional resilience yet.  She hasn't quite learned to take setbacks in stride, think things through, take things in context, have a little perspective, play the long game.  Instead, she lets her emotions overtake her, and since she experiences them intensely, they hijack her brain, and she tends to lash out or self-sabotage.  She hasn't quite figured out who she is, what she likes and where she fits in the world yet (which is normal for young adults)--but to her, it's simply unbearable.  She's SCARED, and she's deeply ashamed about it.

To cope, she turns around and blames others for all her problems.  She reinterprets the world from a victim mindset, blaming you, other family members and friends for causing all her problems.  My observation is that the farther back in history she goes, dredging up negative memories from childhood, the more scared she is of the present.  You see, it's just her way of avoiding her current problems, by blaming you for wrecking her life, while demanding retribution.  The sad part is that she's basically abdicating responsibility for herself.  It's like she didn't get the memo that adulthood is about being responsible for herself.  Or maybe she got the memo, but she crumpled it up and threw it back in your face.  Meanwhile, she demands that you continue to over-function for her.  Does that sound about right?

Anyway, welcome.  Here we emphise self-care, first and foremost.  You're not much good for your daughter if you are living in a FOG of Fear, Obligation and Guilt, because it clouds your judgment.  So if that's how you're feeling, you're in good company here.  I hope we can help.

By the way, rest assured that you did NOT cause BPD in your daughter, no matter how much she tries to convince you otherwise.  Remember, you didn't cause it, you can't cure it, and you can't control it.  Only your daughter can do that.

All the best to you.

 83 
 on: August 20, 2026, 06:39:41 PM  
Started by Inforthelonghaul - Last post by wantmorepeace
Welcome!  This is a great place to get and give support -- often at the same time.

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 on: August 20, 2026, 06:38:28 PM  
Started by SillyScapegoat - Last post by wantmorepeace
I am so sorry.  It's definitely been my experience that death in the family sets things off.

You know who you are even if some around you do not.  This board is a great place to see your experiences replicated in other peoples' postings and to validate what is happening to you.  If you don't already have such, I recommend getting a therapist who understands bpd and its effect on family members.  You can check out the NAMI chapter near you to see if they have any family support groups.  And sometimes you can find a website of specialized resources in your area.

Hang in there!

 85 
 on: August 20, 2026, 06:19:12 PM  
Started by SillyScapegoat - Last post by SillyScapegoat
For the first time in my life, I understand why I’m scared of getting close to people.

Three weeks ago, we heard that my aunt, mom’s sister, had passed unexpectedly. My mom of 80 really wanted to attend the funeral across the country but cannot travel on her own.  So, I offered to help her travel, big mistake for me.  But I’m a good daughter, and my golden boy brother would not have helped her.  Ive known about her BPD for nearly 20yrs, but she is undiagnosed.  She is not well enough to speak to about it.  In fact, she is incapable of admitting fault to anything.

Long story short, the night of the funeral she saw my cousin and I taking a 30min break from the chaos of organizing a casket funeral in just 5 days!!!!  Still not sure how we pulled that off! And mom got jealous and made up a reason she needed to “speak” to me later that evening.  Upon arriving later to speak with her, I was ambushed and she screamed at me and even became physical.  I just told her I would not speak to her until she calmed down and tried to leave.  She blocked me and grabbed my arm twice.  I just kept walking away and saying the same thing.  She then called my cousin and talked with her for an hour.  The next day, she lied about everything that happened to the family that was there. She even told my cousin’s father, her brother, that she’s evil.  Told me I’m not a Christian and I’m evil.    

I believe she was disassociating during her outburst; she gets this crazy looking stare in her eyes. There is no one there and it feels like she isn’t even focusing on you when she looks at you.   No one in the family had seen her like this before, they were all in shock.  I literally came into the kitchen at one point, and she was lying about me to them.  I didn’t say anything because this is not even about her, the others were already grieving, and I didn’t want to cause any more of a scene.

It’s been two weeks since I got her back home.  She isn’t speaking to me except for a few texts, but my brother tells me she keeps changing the story of what occurred there between us.  She is trying to make me look like a horrible daughter, but he knows it’s all lies.  She wants so badly to blame me like always.  She is livid because she cannot assign blame to me this time.  For the first time in her life, it’s obvious I did nothing wrong. It’s the weirdest thing to witness.  After all the emotional abuse from her growing up, it helps me see how much she has injured me.

My brother and I think this episode has made her lose her mind.  She has forgotten how to use her phone, and he says her speech pattern doesn’t make sense often.  Meanwhile, I’m scared she will write me out of the family trust due to this.  I’m not as wealthy as others in my family, and she uses this leverage to control me.  In the past two weeks she kept changing who’s going to get how much and when.  

I know she’s just sick, but I’m so sad.  No one seems to remember or see me.  Ive been through her wrath and survived very well.  But no one wants to hear or see what I have been through because of her.  They all focus on “your poor mother is suffering”.  I’m hoping someone here can help me understand how you can move forward as a victim of this, when no one wants to help you, no one sees you, no one has empathy for you.


 86 
 on: August 20, 2026, 04:40:49 PM  
Started by Inforthelonghaul - Last post by Inforthelonghaul
Hi,

My 24-year-old daughter was diagnosed with BPD a few years ago and I have resisted believing it until recently.  Because I also believe that members of family of origin would have been diagnosed with it had they ever sought treatment, I'm wondering if it is a genetic disorder.

Sometimes I need support and have nobody to turn to, so I am grateful to have finally joined here.

Thank you.

 87 
 on: August 20, 2026, 04:17:22 PM  
Started by Anonymous14 - Last post by ForeverDad
We laughed we hugged everything was fine. I got home she texted me that her shirt smells like me and i like asked her if she’ll sleep better and she didn’t text me back.

When I was divorcing years ago, our Custody Evaluator wrote his conclusions about us and one of the items he mentioned about my ex was Object Constancy.  This is where "out of sight" can be "out of mind" for some people.  So your smells on her clothing reminded her of you.

https://psychcentral.com/disorders/borderline-personality-disorder/object-constancy-understanding-the-fear-of-abandonment-and-borderline-personality-disorder

I had a therapist appointment today because i wanna work on myself to better understand me and he told me that she gave me a lifeline when she broke up with me and to run. And i'm like my man what? He didn’t give me the best feeling.

Your therapist likely was well aware of Borderline PD, they can be are some of the most difficult patients.  Likely he was being pragmatic, knowing that continuing this relationship would keep bringing you back to his office, or another therapist's office, for many years to come.  Not necessarily because of your issues, but because of the troubled (dysfunctional) relationship.

This reminds of my own failed marriage.  When we separated, my stbEx brought our preschooler to a children's counseling office.  She was seeking negative advocates who she hoped would side with her on how evil I was. Frustrated/Unfortunate (click to insert in post)  Our son was attending sessions throughout our divorce and continued for the next few years.  That was years ago and, if I recall the timeline correctly, when I went back to court after the final decree and gained full custody, his counselor was so happy and prepared to end counseling.  Clearly, they thought the conflict and discord was over.  But our child's counseling had to continue for another couple years until I also gained majority parenting time at which time mother's antics finally reduced.  Only then did son and I have a graduation ceremony of sorts with his counselor.

My point is that your therapist probably has an objective perspective through training and experience, that you with your subjective perspective would likely continue to have relationship issues if you sought to reverse the breakup.

There's a phrase often said here... You can't save them, you're too close to them to fix them, it is up to them to decide to seek their own recovery.

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 on: August 20, 2026, 03:28:10 PM  
Started by Anonymous14 - Last post by Anonymous14
Thanks for the answer.
I just wanna help her because i can see she’s trying i just don’t know how to go to her. Yesterday was lime oop it just happened and we talkted. I wanna show her that im there for her but im scared that she closed off again because of something i said or did yesterday. I asked her that yesterday but she said that no it was fine. I don’t know how to get her to just look at me and stop with the push/pull I realize its not that simple im just lost how we can be fine one second and she’s ignoring me the next.
This is a snippet from my letter and idk if i wrote something I shouldn’t have.

Even when it comes to your health, I think I made a mistake. I’ve read a lot about BPD—not because I wanted to analyze you or put you into some kind of box just because you have this diagnosis. I read about it because I don’t want to leave you alone in this. I wanted to understand your world and know how I can be there for you when things get hard.
But I also know that the internet doesn’t know what’s going on inside your head—you’re the only one who does. So I don’t want to make assumptions on your behalf. I just want to give you the space to tell me when you’re struggling, when you need space, or when you need someone by your side.
I know that maybe what worries you most is that I won’t be able to handle it. That your BPD will exhaust me, that it will become too much for me, and that one day you’ll watch me fall apart and feel guilty for it. And maybe that’s why it feels easier for you to leave now, before any of that can even happen.
But please, don’t decide for me what I can or cannot handle.
Thanks again sorry im just lost and spiraling.

 89 
 on: August 20, 2026, 02:51:29 PM  
Started by Anonymous14 - Last post by Pook075
Okay so i have an update.
Me and my friend were going to the beach and stopped near her house to go to the store so I called her and asked if she maybe wanted to come so she wouldn’t be in her house all day. She picked up and I heard she wasn’t fine so my friend dropped me off at her house and we went on a walk. It was awkward at first i gave her my letter to read and we talked she opened up to me but she said we won’t get back together but we are “friends” now.I told her later that if hypothetically something does happen in the future i would want her to come talk to me and to not be scared. We laughed we hugged everything was fine. I got home she texted me that her shirt smells like me and i like asked her if she’ll sleep better and she didn’t text me back. I had a therapist appointment today because i wanna work on myself to better understand me and he told me that she gave me a lifeline when she broke up with me and to run. And im like my man what? He didn’t give me the best feeling. She hasn’t texted me since and im afraid i pushed too much or something but everything was fine when i left. Help me please im just trying to understand her and where this is going if it’s going anywhere.

Hello and welcome to the family!  I'm so sorry you're going through this, but literally everyone here who has dated or married a BPD partner has experienced this exact thing.

First, you're not doing anything wrong.  She's completely in her own head and second guessing everything throughout the day.  That's where the push/pull dynamic comes from.  She wants to be with you, but she's scared you'll dump her so she dumps you before you get the chance.  Then she feels terrible so she wants to reconcile, but then she feels guilty for being all over the place, and decides that you're just going to break her heart anyway so she dumps you again. 

And then the entire process starts all over again- this can all happen in days, hours, or even minutes when their thinking is disordered.

How do you save this?  There's no straightforward answer.  If you push too much, she'll run.  If you don't push at all, she'll run.  Mainly, she needs time to process all of this and the time may or may not be on your side.  I'm sorry, I know that's not the answer you're looking for, but it's such a familiar pattern.  She's in crisis and handling it poorly.

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 on: August 20, 2026, 01:00:54 PM  
Started by Anonymous14 - Last post by Anonymous14
Okay so i have an update.
Me and my friend were going to the beach and stopped near her house to go to the store so I called her and asked if she maybe wanted to come so she wouldn’t be in her house all day. She picked up and I heard she wasn’t fine so my friend dropped me off at her house and we went on a walk. It was awkward at first i gave her my letter to read and we talked she opened up to me but she said we won’t get back together but we are “friends” now.I told her later that if hypothetically something does happen in the future i would want her to come talk to me and to not be scared. We laughed we hugged everything was fine. I got home she texted me that her shirt smells like me and i like asked her if she’ll sleep better and she didn’t text me back. I had a therapist appointment today because i wanna work on myself to better understand me and he told me that she gave me a lifeline when she broke up with me and to run. And im like my man what? He didn’t give me the best feeling. She hasn’t texted me since and im afraid i pushed too much or something but everything was fine when i left. Help me please im just trying to understand her and where this is going if it’s going anywhere.

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