This is making me really curious about why there's such a link between BPD, (or at least someone with strong-BPD characteristics who is otherwise undiagnosed), and a general helplessness/laziness/lack of responsibility (or whatever you want to call it) with respect to basic needs & everyday tasks.
Is it just that their emotionally stunted & underdeveloped brains make them like overgrown toddlers in everyday life as well... i.e. unable to perceive that things need to be done and do them? Like they can look at a sink full of dirty dishes, be the only adult in the home, and not understand that the burden is on them to clean them up before things get moldy and disgusting?
OR is it pure selfishness that drives them to have physical and household tasks done for them, just as they put the burden of their emotional needs on others? Like they can look at that sink of dirty dishes and think "If I refuse to do the dishes, someone else will have to, and I can reach into my bag of 'dirty BPD tricks' to apply a little extra 'motivation' for them if needed" (e.g. blame someone else for the mess, scream "YOU NEVER CLEAN UP AROUND HERE I DO EVERYTHING" at the partner who indeed always cleans up around there, break down and cry that there's too much to do and emotionally blackmail the partner into doing it, etc.)
Some of the things I observed are so self-serving that it's hard to dismiss them as part of a behavioral disorder... like just a complete refusal to clean bathrooms, make the bed EVER, bear half the burden of everyday household tasks without complaining, or let their partner sit and relax for a second if there's something that they need done. So it seems to me it's closer to the latter.
Is it just that their emotionally stunted & underdeveloped brains make them like overgrown toddlers in everyday life as well... i.e. unable to perceive that things need to be done and do them? Like they can look at a sink full of dirty dishes, be the only adult in the home, and not understand that the burden is on them to clean them up before things get moldy and disgusting?
OR is it pure selfishness that drives them to have physical and household tasks done for them, just as they put the burden of their emotional needs on others? Like they can look at that sink of dirty dishes and think "If I refuse to do the dishes, someone else will have to, and I can reach into my bag of 'dirty BPD tricks' to apply a little extra 'motivation' for them if needed" (e.g. blame someone else for the mess, scream "YOU NEVER CLEAN UP AROUND HERE I DO EVERYTHING" at the partner who indeed always cleans up around there, break down and cry that there's too much to do and emotionally blackmail the partner into doing it, etc.)
Some of the things I observed are so self-serving that it's hard to dismiss them as part of a behavioral disorder... like just a complete refusal to clean bathrooms, make the bed EVER, bear half the burden of everyday household tasks without complaining, or let their partner sit and relax for a second if there's something that they need done. So it seems to me it's closer to the latter.
Pete, it's a bit of all of it and from a child's point of view growing up, it takes time to catch on to what is going on. Parents are authority figures so we assume they are the adults. I knew something was different. The other aspect is the shame, and secrecy with BPD. BPD mother did have the concerns about what others might think and so there was this illusion that she was "normal".
By about 9 or 10 I recall her rages and destrutive behavior but the day after, my parents would act as if nothing happened. We learned not to ask. At about 12, I was sharing what I learned in school with my father. He was listening to me. BPD mother started to act silly and cute- it was like a toddler wanting attention. I recall wondering about that. Also by that age, I could do most household tasks and we kids were pretty self sufficient. She was also drinking at that time, I thought it was the alcohol. By high school I was embarrased to have friends come over as I didn't know what they'd see her do at home.
One mystery was- what did BPD mother do all day while we were at school? We didn't see her do much of anything. College was my way to get away from it and so that is what I did. I would be home on school breaks and the behavior was the same but I didn't see it as much.
BPD mother had a high need to have people do things for her, even things she could have done herself. She'd either order me to do them, which scared me, or manipulate me to do them. She also was critical of what I did- finding something I did or didn't do that she could be angry about.
Mostly though, I pursued my own schooling, career, family. Visits were short, and often she held it together in general. She was also always with my father. I was not aware of the extent of emotional caretaking he took on. Visits were still chaotic. My parents had no routine, no regular meals. BPD mother ate what she wanted, whenever. Dad would heat up something simple. I had a routine with my kids, and so they would fit in to that. I would cook a meal, they'd eat, then BPD mother would go lie down on the couch. Dad would play with the kids while I cleaned up the kitchen. It was like looking at my own childhood, where Dad took on the parenting tasks. The payoff though- my kids bonded with him. They loved their grandfather.
Until he couldn't - due to age and illness. This is something for Max to consider. At the moment, the main focus is on the kids, and supporting the family. The whole structure of the family is on your shoulders. The chaos that ensued when my father got ill was scary. I was afraid for his own well being if he couldn't take care of himself.
What was interesting was that, in a way, BPD mother aged into more "normalcy", because it isn't unusual for an elderly person to need assistance in taking care of herself. However, her emotional needs exceeded her actual physical needs. In assisted living, the levels of care are determined by level of physical need. Hers were not very high. However, emotionally she functioned like a young child. She needed that level of care and attention but elder care isn't set up for that.
Even though her level of function was not competent, she retained legal competency as she was congnitively intact and so she still retained the ability to mismanage her finances, decide to comply with medical care or not. Her extended family, who eventually caught on to her issues, urged me to consult an elder law attorney to see if there was a way to intervene. I learned a lot from the attorney but ultimately- as long as BPD mother was legally competent, she was autonomous.
By this time, I was aware of her level of impairment. She was completely self focused. Why this is, I don't think we can fully understand.
As to why you didn't see this at first, and I don't think my father did at first either- we meet someone while we are younger. We don't have the big responsibilities like children, house payments. Like many people with BPD, they can hold it together, especially when relationships are relatively care free. So your wife was also able to have flings when she wanted to. By our 40's, 50's. I think we have gained some maturity more than someone with BPD has. It can still be possible to attract someone, but the maturity gap is wider. I guess it is still possible but I would think it might be more challenging?



I was then recommended, by both of them to read 'Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men'.