Definitely something there we can all identify with to one extent or another Wonder if the writer had some experience with BPD relationships or researched it?

I used to use the Alien movie as a reference to my exBPD; the words of the android Ash when talking about the alien are very appropriate;

'Its structural perfection is matched only by it's hostility ..a survivor.. unclouded by conscience, remorse or delusions of morality'

'I can't lie to you about your chances; you have my sympathy'

Plus whenever I saw the 'crew expendable' message I instantly thought 'partner expendable'

Update: It seems that her behavior is escalating. In June alone, it has already been on the stream 16 times, of which for a few days it has appeared under a fake account with the nickname "I don't know, maybe I'll find out". I'm afraid, but I want to know what will happen next. I also found a therapist who helps people after such relationships, keep your fingers crossed for me

Welcome!  We know you're in a difficult situation, there's far more conflict in your life than you wish.  Please feel free to ask questions while reading and pondering the variety of posts, ideas, skills and strategies found here.

Don't worry whether someone has BPD or any other sort of personality disorder.  Why?  The fact is that many of us here have spouses, ex-spouses, parents, siblings, children, in-laws, etc who have never been diagnosed or refuse to be diagnosed.  That's a fact of life for us.  So, instead, we ponder their perceptions, behaviors and actions.  If those things do fit with identified BPD traits, then that's good enough to use that as a foundation from which to start and go forward from there.

One aspect of BPD is that it is a disorder of close relationships, he closer the relationship, the more impacting it is to those close to them.  For example, someone on the periphery or with only occasional contact may only notice something "off", no big deal, but to those close it is virtually a never-ending crisis.  There was even discussions in recent years to rename Borderline to Emotional Disregulation or something similar.

Here's a few reasons why, despite your close relationship, you've been unable to improve things.  First, society hasn't provided you with tools and skills to deal with BPD.  Fortunately, we have a variety of topics you can browse.  Take advantage of our hard-won experience.

Second, there is probably too much emotional baggage of the relationship for your spouse to really truly listen to you.  That's not your fault, it's the nature of the disorder.

That's why focused therapy from a person which has no emotional connection has a better track record.  (Counseling is great for everyone!)  Still there is no guarantee of an improvement.  Many persons with BPD traits (pwBPD) have intense levels of Denial, Blaming, Blame Shifting and more.

I feel this emensely i have a hard time validating my boyfriend as well. And while we are in the split it can feel very gaslighty the way things are being said. One of the things I do some times with mines is when I see his frustration or begin to catch it I ask him on a scale of 1 10 whwr3 he is or if hes close to splitting, and then I ask if its a 6 what can I do to get him back to a two. This gives him the opportunity to express himself and vent for a moment and i do what he requests as long as its reasonable. I noticed somthing where you said hes splitting on you all the time and I feel like this is because he is stacked.. so somthing my boyfriend does is notice little things over days or sometimes Ina. Day that i upset him or the world is upsetting him thay he " let go" but as that stack grows so does rhe level of the split. Its ok to validate in a split even if you dont agree.  I say things like  I can see how thats frustrating for you  and so on. I hope this isnt the end for you and him  but I hope its all works out !

Thank you both for your insight,  this is one of many struggles with his BPD its hard for me to know how to act I get alot of push and pull . We all live together so i spend alot of time with both of i can . Sometimes he loves me and I can see the hate other times . Hes not apologizing for splitting on me this time  which is odd but im just trying to deal i know its me thay needs the adjustment because I want to understand him and I try desperately  but when I get hurt its a physical reaction and im not good emotionally either.  Im struggling with my own depression and my anxiety  hes soo centrally focused on himself and his job I feel im dealing more with his npd then his bpd. Hes never been this neglectful of my feelings , maybe in a fight or a moment but never like this and im surprised by his behavior...but he does have traits of npd as well. Thank you so much for your feed back

 I had an interesting experience at a friend's 50th Wedding Anniversary party yesterday.  I think maybe because I have been looking at my part in my relationship with my swubpd "and" I'm learning about relationship roles as in the Drama Triangle with the persecutor, rescuer and victim. I could identify these roles in an interaction with my ex husband with bpd, his current girlfriend and his 2nd ex wife. My ex became the victim in talking about our swubpd. Though he has caused much trauma and abandonment HE started to carry on about how he wants a relationship and said Is it me? Is it me?  I am a little nauseous admitting this but I had an emotional tug to "rescue" and make him feel better. A light bulb came on. No wonder that I rush so quickly to rescue my son who I am enmeshed with. That gives me a little emotional breathing room to reflect on when my son is in the victim role. Back to the party... No worries the girlfriend soothed him and said how he struggles with the pain of the father/son broken relationship.  The 2nd ex wife jumped into the persecutor role.  Very enlightening experience.

Disrespect is a serous matter, not to be discounted.  The problem is that you can't order respect.  If you're disrespected and the other has been made aware of your feelings, then it is up to you to decide whether to tolerate disrespect or reinforce your boundary requiring you be treated with respect if the contact is to be continued.

Sadly, reminiscing about youthful crushes is typical, yet it in no way means those old memories should be fostered and renewed... especially when there are real concerns about doing so.

Yes, you're welcome to move on.  When invitations, call or whatever from negative-oriented people come knocking at your door, so to speak, you don't have to answer.  As the saying goes, you don't have to let them rent space in your head for free.

This reminds me of this booklet meant for youths, An Umbrella for Alex.  The message there is generic since minor children need age-appropriate language.  A simple illustration was appropriate, imagine an umbrella or shield to protect you from the harm spewing out from poorly behaving people.

Hello and welcome to the family.  I'm so sorry you're in this position and the harm its caused you.  However, I don't feel like it's a complex situation at all.

He's responsible for himself.  You're responsible for you.  Those are two different things and you must think about them separately.

First, let's talk about him.  You entered a relationship where you're being unfaithful to your husband, so you gave him permission to be unfaithful as well.  For a BPD, that's a "best of both worlds" scenario because they get all the feel-good emotion and excitement without an ounce of actual comittment.  By definition, that's not a relationship...its an arrangement.

However, he's not abiding by the arrangement since it sounds like the "best of both worlds" isn't enough for him.  He wants even more, he wants full control and submission, which is more of an NPD trait.  BPD/NPD are on the same spectrum and often cross paths.  Maybe he's just trying to make you jealous.  Maybe he genuinely expects you to be excited about how much he's into his boss.  Either way, it's manipulation and it's cruel.

Now let's talk about you.  You're responsible for you and only you.  You're married to one man, and in an arrangement with the other.  You also mentioned that you're happy with your husband, but you made a statement that if you handled the past different, maybe you never would have broken up with the other guy.  There's a lot of confusion for me there, and I'm guessing there's a lot of confusion for you too.

Which relationship takes priority?  The one that you said was "good" or the one that brings "anxiety, jealousy, and disrespect"? 

It's essential for you to make a choice here.  Keep doing what you're doing until it all blows up spectacularly.  That's what the "best of both worlds" always brings in every circumstance- you can't find one instance in the history of the world where 4 or 5 people lived happily ever after in this circumstance.  It always breaks and everyone ends up hurt.

Or you can create healthy boundaries where you stop accepting the abusive behavior.  I think either path leads to the same outcome, unless you're willing to leave your husband and marry your long-lost love under these abusive circumstances.  But you also said that you're not even his favorite person right now, which is another cause for serious alarm.

Nobody here can tell you what to do, but I'd suggest you really think about which relationship should be your priority right now.  One is good, one is bad, and the bad one will always go in circular patterns like this because serious mental illness is at its core.  BPDs are terrified of someone leaving them, yet you're leaving him every time to go home to your husband.  That alone will keep him unstable and guarantee selfish behavior. 

Ok so here's is the issue , this is our story. He was my best friend in high-school we talk about everything together and soon those crushes turned into love . We dated for 2 and half years but he often verbally attacked me caused me some ptsd he was always telling me everything was my fault that I couldn't talk to other guys or it was disrespectful to so honestly its something I learned that I was kinda of doing I would keep up long term relationships with other guys and other relationships taught me it wasnt really ok so i keep my interactions to a minimum when im with someone just out of respect for the person.
Anyway he left me after 2 years of torture, I was soo numb . I knew he was leaving me for her because I saw their interactions together and he was so excited about her .

He stayed with this women for 17 years and we reconnected ...I realized how much I missed him . Missed the connection and deep friendship we have. My husband and I have an open situation so we were able to talk and im allowed to date. I know tototal 180 right my husband and I are happy its just something we enjoy but we have a rule I can only have one other person so needless to say I chose my ex again. Which I usually never go back to an ex but he seemed changed and different this 17 year relationship had changed him. He was sorry for everything he'd done. He left that women and we decided to add him to our thing going on .he requested to be apart of it and through it we find out he has bpd.

I became a one women research team and started reading every book I got my hands on . I was sad because I feel like if I would have understood him when we were young he wouldnt have left in ther first place. Regardless  I wanted to understand,  now mind you I have major anxiety and panic disorder.  So im sensitive. 

I know he had a favorite person right now and its not me and im trying to deal with that.hes allowed to talk to whomever he pleases but there is one women at work whom he keeps talking about almost to the point of inappropriate amounts and it was making me uncomfortable. I asked him to please stop or just censor what he chooses to share with me about her. I realize this is his job and shes his boss so she will obviously come in conversation but it hurts alot because he seems to happy and giddy about her. I keep asking him to please just tone it down and to just mind what he says because it will trigger my anxiety.  Its the only time ive truly censored him.

He keeps getting aggressive about it . Now to note im speaking to no other men and no other man has left my lips out of respect. He keeps accusing me of severe jealousy threatening to quit his job . How im ruining the friendship we have . I keep telling him this behavior is hurting me . He said he would tone it done and has . It made me feel so much more comfortable and he would just talk about work situations with her and i was fine.

Last night we go out to dinner since we dont gwt to spend much time due to the terrible hours at his job abd he works hard and ive been sympathetic qnd I cater to basically his ever need. He begins to ask me to to be an " easier" girlfriend that he doesnt want to realky have to deal with my emotions when he comes home deal with my moods when hes home.which hurt alot then he states that he wishes he could talk freely about this women. I got angry at the table but calm and tried to explain my case foe the 5th time because I felt he just didnt get it to which he got angry in return to the point where he was crushing the bread and accusing me of ruining that part of our friendship and we will have nothing to talk about because she is at his job.

Note I dont care about work situations I care that hes talking about " sitting knee to knee with her in golf carts and how his eyes light up when he talks about the kind of coffee she likes." Its its just alittle disrespectful and it hurts alittle so i tried to set a boundary and he keeps trying to push it and verbally devalues and attacks me when I do. I just want this boundary to be met and for him to understand that and once I feel secure he really wont hear much else from me about it but he keeps pushing so it keeps making me insecure. Im just trying to understand how to deal with the disrespect and im trying to understand his side but if he said somthing was hurting him id do everything in my power not to do that..

Each time I try and set this boundary its a huge fight and a problem . Im at a loss .
Tbh its really hard for me to deal with the devaluation and constantly having to manage his emotions but he cant do this one thing..I feel disrespected and hurt and tired

Note : he agreed to this open relationship but the same rules apply to both Sides he can randomly do as he pleases but always come home and we remain priority but he is making this women seem like a threat to that priority..behavior changes constant talking about her, dropping everything to help her. I dont belive this is a romantic thing but im just asking to please respect the boundary I set and when he was it made me feel so much more secure and relaxed and i didnt worry and there was no more issue no more fights but he just keeps pushing it.

Idk what to do  I know its a complex situation but I wouldnt react this way if I didnt feel threatened.  Hes talked to other women in the past and it hasn't effected me except for his ex while they were breaking g up he pushing boundaries with it but they were more set for him so he could heal but its a mess.