OK, I think you're onto something here.  I'm not referring as much to your plan to move, as to the notion that you can take control of what you have control over, namely YOU.  If you can't work from home because your spouse is constantly interrupting, needy and demanding during work hours, then you can work outside the home.  It might be as simple as setting up camp at a local library with a free internet connection.  You might try it out for a few days and see if it works for you.

Nevertheless, if you are financially over-extended, then downsizing might be right for you.  Maybe you move to a cheaper home or apartment, or to someplace that enables one of you to walk to work (or take public transportation), or lets your kid take a bus to school.  Maybe you sell one of your cars.  Maybe you move closer to a family member who is willing and able to help with some childcare, which might free you up to work more hours, or maybe cut back on daycare costs.  These are all moves that are in your control (for the most part).  Your wife might kick and scream about the changes, but to me it sounds like she's not offering solutions.  You go ahead and take the reins, because you owe it to yourself to better your life, if not for you, then for your kid(s).

As for the breakfast issue, I'll say that when I first got married, my spouse had a fixed idea of what constituted breakfast:  a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich.  I think he thought that when we got married, that I'd make him a BEC sandwich every morning before work.  But I hated that idea, not only because of the mess of the bacon grease, but also because bacon isn't healthy to consume every day.

So I had to re-train my husband about what constitutes breakfast.  My unspoken rule is that during weekdays, I'm cooking only ONCE per day, to prepare the evening meal.  I'm not dealing with pots and pans at breakfast, not when I'm dressed in a suit and trying to get out the door to avoid rush hour traffic.  I also want us to have a big, well-rounded breakfast, because we're both really busy and might need to rush through lunch.  While I packed my workday lunches ahead (on Sunday and Wednesday evenings), my husband ate lunch at his company's cafeteria.  Anyway, that meant we needed a balanced breakfast that is quick, convenient, easy to prepare, with lots of protein and fiber, so that we feel fuller for longer and have adequate fuel for the day.  My approach is to prepare a breakfast melange for both of us.

My workday breakfast consists of plain, whole Greek yogurt topped with seasonal fruits, a handful of plain nuts and some rolled oats.  It's basically a breakfast parfait, which happens to mean perfect.  I get protein, probiotics and needed calcium with the yogurt; healthy fats, fiber and crunch with the nuts; sweetness, fiber and antioxidants with the fruit; and fiber and whole grains with the rolled oats.  I think this combination works for me because of the mix of protein, fat, carbs and fiber; it really fills me up.  Total time to prepare:  maybe two or three minutes.  I keep things interesting by buying three different types of fruit every week, and rotating my selection of nuts (usually walnuts, almonds or pecans).  If I have a tough day ahead, I'll prepare a bigger serving, or maybe eat a hard boiled egg as well.

For my husband, I also prepare a melange, but suited to his tastes.  He gets the seasonal fruits and nuts, plus some prunes and a hard boiled egg (which I boil ahead on the weekend).  He doesn't do yogurt, but instead I make him a toasted bagel half with cream cheese.  To satisfy his desire for salty/fatty things, instead of bacon, I give him a slice of prosciutto, or sometimes a piece of cheese or smoked salmon.  With six or seven elements on his plate, it looks colorful and appetizing.  Eggs are nutrient dense and typically cheap, too.  Total time to prepare:  three to five minutes, about the time it takes to toast the bagel half.

The wonderful thing is, since the breakfast plate melange looks so colorful and yummy, and since it has some elements of the coveted bacon, egg and cheese sandwich, but without any cooking, my husband really took to it.  Meanwhile, I was relieved of cooking and grease clean-up.  The prep time is really quick.  Result:  happy and nourished spouse.  Even better, my husband likes his breakfast melange so much that he'll make it himself when I'm not around, just because it's so quick and easy.  He just needed me to change his conception of breakfast, to show him that it's not that hard to get a well-rounded, yummy breakfast.

To go with breakfast, we usually have plain coffee or tea.  In summer I'll make iced coffee and iced tea, and keep them in the fridge.  In winter, it's black coffee.  Typically I'll make coffee in the machine while I'm unloading the dishwasher.  The total time for both tasks runs at about 10 minutes.  Thus I can have the whole breakfast routine done in around 15 minutes.  Add another 15 minutes to eat, peruse the news headlines, clean up, grab the pre-packed lunch, and I'm out the door.  Yes it takes a little time and a tinsy bit of planning and preparation, but honestly, it would take me way more time (and money) to use a drive-through.  And since I had a high-stress, very demanding job, I absolutely need a hearty, healthy breakfast to fuel me.  Maybe I was a slow learner, because when I started out my career, I sometimes skipped breakfast or just had simple carbs (toast, bagel, muffin, cereal, i.e. the typical for my generation, when eggs and fats were vilified).  I was usually famished by 10 am, and I was all too familiar with the feelings of dizziness and fatigue.  It took me a while to figure out that my body really needed protein, fat and fiber earlier in the day.  But I'm glad I figured it out--the days of the dizzies are long gone.  I hope you can help your wife modify her routine to solve this simple problem.  It might be as simple as having a balanced breakfast, or a mid-morning snack of an apple, clementine or banana (three inexpensive, broadly available, portable fruits).

Good luck.

Yes, since currently I need her to drive our kid to school due to my work hours she managed to get money from me, but still not every time, and a reduced amount, still I see this as intermitent results and I know how bad this is, my plan to fix and fight this and other demands is a rather harsh one, moving to a house that is closer to everything including school, so I won't need her to drive anymore, also she will be going out less because now she will bring her workshop home.

On the other hand, currently I work from home, so I will need to put my office outside of home since she torments me daily if we spend the day together, with menial and petty demands damaging my work hours, I tried that, both of us being the full day at home, and lost two jobs in sequence due to this a few years ago.

I didn't accept things (her issues) back then, I thought I had to find a way for us both to coexist peacefully and successfully since we were married and us spending the day together should be a bliss, not a torment.

As you may assume, nothing I did ever made things right, and days were a torment, accepting this was so painful for me, still is, just less as I have been working on accepting this for a couple years now.

Then I got here and found about radical acceptance. I decided to stay as much as I can, but I accepted I will have to spend additional money to have my office out of the house and leave her alone at home.

I confess that there is nothing I would want more than to spend the day close to her in pure bliss, every day, but this is just not possible.

I was watching a video where a doctor explained that a young man ate only chicken nuggets - for years - started going blind.  Turns out that they don't have Vitamin A.  Once the deficiency was discovered, he was given supplements.  Of course, that man wasn't just picky, he was obsessive.  Still, just in case, it would be wise to ensure your wife takes multivitamins regularly, to ensure a deficiency does not aggravate life more than it already is.

She may resist a suggestion for her to make changes.  Perhaps it would be better to say we will do this or that.

OK, I understand how pwBPD can be extremely needy and demanding, but this seems ridiculous to me.  A monkey can peel a banana with no assistance, and so can your wife.  Billions of adults are really busy with jobs, childcare, chores and such, and yet they find a way to prepare meals and snacks every day.  Geesh, I made my own lunches and packed my own lunchbox at a very young age, like age 8 or 9--typically a peanut butter sandwich, a thermos of milk, an apple or grapes or raisins or carrot, and a cookie for dessert.  If a monkey can peel a banana and a 9-year-old can pack their own basic lunch for school, so can your wife.  It's just that she chooses not to.

To take things further, your wife is claiming dizziness and threatening to have a car accident, while blaming you for it.  This is a new level of weaponized incompetence in my opinion.  But what pwBPD want and crave is validation and understanding.  And you're not a doctor, right?  I think if I were in this situation, I might try radical acceptance, and agree with her 100%.  I might say, Yes darling, I agree, you're not fit to drive if you're dizzy and fear you'll get in an accident.  That sounds dangerous--I wouldn't want you to get hurt, or to hurt anyone else.  I'm sorry you're feeling so poorly all the time, you need to take the bus home.  I'll pick you up at the bus station.  Then, when we get home, I'm taking the keys to the car, and I'll keep the keys safe until you're able to deal with your dizzy spells, and I can trust that you won't have an accident, because that would be horrible.  Don't worry, I'll retrieve the car this weekend.  I believe you, and I'm taking it seriously because like you said, I'm responsible.  I'm your spouse, and I don't want anything bad to happen to you, especially something as serious as a car accident.  So until you sort out your dizzy spells, with a doctor if you have to, I think you should take the bus/Uber/train/carpool.  Your safety comes first.  I couldn't stand it if you had an accident that I could have prevented, because you're having dizzy spells.  I don't want you driving when you feel unwell and unsafe, OK?  Let's focus on your health and make sure you sort out your dizzy spells as soon as possible.

If your wife is feigning illness (or making herself ill on purpose) to try to get you to "drop everything" and take care of her like a child, then my advice is to slow walk, which is my technique for being available, but not immediately.  That way, you give her time and space to try to sort things out for herself.  You don't "drop everything" or even respond to her desperate calls or texts right away.  You are available, just not instantly.  You deal with her, but you don't rush and you don't gush; you try to stay as neutral, deliberate and non-emotional as possible.  If she wants you to pick her up and drive her home, or be her short-order cook, well, you might do that, but she has to wait a while, until you're ready.  Chances are she'll calm down, find another solution or sort things out all by herself (as she should).

PS, if your wife is a picky eater, then that probably makes things easier, not harder.  Picky eaters typically have a very limited range of foods they'll eat--cereal, pasta, pizza, chicken nuggets, burgers, soda, ice cream, etc.   If the only protein she'll eat is chicken nuggets, then consider serving nuggets for breakfast.  More protein earlier in the day can make one feel fuller for longer.  I don't love processed foods, but your wife might like something like a protein shake in the morning or for lunch.  That would take a minute to mix in a bottle, or maybe five minutes with a blender.  

Hi Exhausted,

You've come to the right place.  Many parents here are in a similar situation.  In my own experience with an adult stepdaughter with BPD, I think that 22-25 was the worst age, and I have theories about this which I've posted on other threads.  Similar to you, I came to realize that her problem wasn't just BPD, but addiction, too, to marijuana--the self-medicating kind.  And my opinion is that today's marijuana is very potent and deleterious, particularly in the gummy and vaping forms, because of the lack of negative biofeedback (e.g. smoke, noxious smell) that might temper usage.  Worse, it's easy to sneak gummies and vaping, making it easy to consume too frequently, too much or both.  Alas, with heavy daily use, I think my BPD stepdaughter did a number on her brain, reducing her IQ by a few points, as well as seriously interfering with her executive functioning and creating paranoia.  Anyway, my opinion is that it's really hard to treat BPD without treating the addiction to illicit substances, first or simultaneously.

I'm familiar with the fear of suicide attempts, and the fear of kicking a "kid" out on the streets.  I've witnessed several suicide attempts and their aftermath with my pwBPD.  I've been through several rebounds too, when my adult stepdaughter would try living independently, only to self-sabotage, give up on herself and land back in my home.  I've lost count of how many rebounds there have been, but they have been occuring for nearly a decade now.  It would be one thing if they were planned, but typically they entailed "emergencies" and "rescues."  All that means a lot of parental time expended, money squandered (lost tuition, lost rent and rental deposits, unrefundable skipped therapy), physical labor, administrative support, uncertainty, arguments, cancelled vacations, gigantic medical bills, etc., leaving us worried, tired, cash-strapped, frustrated, resentful, grieving and sick and tired of living in crisis mode.

Since you mention your daughter's addiction in your first post, and since it seems to dominate your concerns (even though there are many issues with BPD!), I think my advice to you would be that you need to start enforcing some strict boundaries in your home, including no drug use.  It seems to me your daughter isn't working on herself, and that you are enabling her dysfunction, by letting her give up on herself and use drugs, while living in your home for free, not helping, and treating you like crap.  Worse, you have an underage kid with you, while your BPD daughter is an adult--what sort of home environment are you providing for your younger kid, and what sort of example are you setting?  I think you take back control of your home and enforce some house rules.  I don't care if you were OK with letting your BPD daughter use marijuana in the past; you've decided that right now it isn't working for you, because YOUR life isn't working for you.  Like you wrote, you're exhausted, you're desperate, and while you can't control your daughter, you can control what you do, and what happens in your home.  You are changing things up because you deserve better.  It's your home, your sanctuary; your very health and well being are at stake.  There's no place for illicit drug use in your home.  If you find drugs, you throw them out, kick out your daughter or call the cops if you have to.  You want nothing to do with drugs ever again.  You're absolutely sick from seeing how they destroy the lives of the people you love.  You can't live with yourself anymore if you let them in your home.  So don't.

I'll tell you what my house rules are at the moment:  adult children can stay with me in my home, with free room and board, if they are respectful, pick up after themselves and do not use illicit substances.  In exchange, they must work full-time on themselves (i.e. 40 hours per week), through some combination of work, study, training/internships/volunteering and/or therapy.  They are responsibile for paying for their own luxuries, like phones, take-out/restaurants, travel, streaming services, etc.  In other words, they are not allowed to sleep all day, use drugs, skip therapy that I've paid for, leave messes around, be mean or disrespectful, or become idle freeloaders.  They can relax on weekends and such, but if they don't get a job (or work 40 hours per week on their job hunt), they will be asked to leave.  If they use drugs, they will be asked to leave.  If they want to use drugs, they certainly may, just not while they are living with me.  They are adults, they can decide.  But it's my house, my rules.  If they want to make their own rules, they are entitled to do that, but in their own home.  In fact, I would LOVE for them to make their own rules in their own home.  I'm not stopping them in any way at all.  If they want to move to New York, London or Paris, I can understand why they'd want to live there--that would be fantastic!  Go ahead, I'm not stopping them, I can't wait to visit.  But if they stay with me with free room and board, there are no drugs in the house, and they have to work full-time like an adult, and be respectful.  I'd say that's not only fair, but extremely generous on my part.  I'm not even asking for help with utilities or chores (other than picking up after themselves).  If they don't like it because they want to be free to do anything they want whenever they want, then that's OK with me, I totally understand and support that, but not under my roof.

I'm sure it was difficult to post this issue, and while it appears that your previous post about money is a different topic- both these issues are versions of the same dynamic. Your wife wants something- and when she makes threats, accusations, and even some self harming behavior- this affects you emotionally, because you care about her. You give in, and it reinforces the behavior she has which gets her what she wants.

To say "no" in the face of possible escalation is difficult. Giving in may temporarily ease the issues for you. If this was a "one and done" concession, and it led to some long term peacefulness between the two of you, I'd be for it. The problem is, it doesn't fulfil her wishes for long. You are compromised financially, emotionally and physically by the situation.

Unfortunately- we can not change another person. As much as you wish your wife would "see the light" and think more responsibly- she is who she is, and she wants what she wants, and has ways to get what she wants. For her there's no incentive to change even if she could. This is working for her.

BPD also can include emotional immaturity. Refusing to eat is a toddler MO. Toddlers seek autonomy and yet are under parental control. However, they can control what they put in their mouths and so, parents might bed, cajole the toddler to eat, and the toddler is in control.

Hunger though is a survival instinct and if the toddler is hungry enough, they will eat what is given to them. If the parent gives in to the toddler's demands for sweets, they will eat sweets. The job of the parent is to say no to sweets and offer healthy food, even if the toddler pitches a fit.

Your wife is an adult and adults are responsible for their own bodies- so functions like eating, drinking enough fluids, brushing teeth, taking a bath- these are adult responsibilities. A boundary is deciding what is mine, what is someone else's. Your body is yours, your wife's is hers. It is not your responsibility to decide what she eats or if she eats.

You are responsible for feeding yourself and your child, and so, your wife isn't reliable about preparing food. You then will need to prepare food for you and your child. It's not much different to prepare enough food for 3 as it is for 2. Go ahead and prepare your meals for you, your child and your wife but it's up to her to eat it or not. She does not get money to eat out at a restaurant as you can't afford that. My advice is to stay out of this decision. If she doesn't eat, she doesn't eat. If she gets too dizzy to drive, then she can't drive. If she's not safe with the child, then don't leave the child with her.

If she chooses to eat sweets and popcorn, she will then deal with the consequences of that - however, another possibility is, if you take yourself out of the food and eating decisions all together- she then may find it doesn't get a reaction out of you and so will realize this doesn't work for her. She may even decide to eat some food on her own.

Sometimes changing behaviors requires some support and therapy. It seems counterintuitive that you would be in therapy while she has the disorder, but it can be helpful to the person dealing with this at home, that being you.

People with BPD traits (pwBPD) are well known to exhibit many negative traits including Blaming, Blame Shifting, emotional dysregulation (rants and rages), and so much more.  They resist responsibilities, consequences and boundaries of behavior.

What are ways to deal with that?  One not very intuitive is regarding Boundaries.  Since they generally resist boundaries, then the alternative is for us to assume the boundary placement.  How so?  Our boundaries are how we respond to poor, unhealthy or dysfunctional behavior.  Our Tools & Skills workshops board has several topics dealing with Boundaries.

If I were to make my simplest example of a general framework, it might be something such as this: "If you do or don't ___ then I will do or not do ___."  Some specific response/boundary concepts might be:

• If you leave before I have prepared food for you then you are responsible for buying food or waiting until your return to eat.
• If you continue to rant or rage then I will take the children (so they are not exposed to conflict) and we will go to the park or go grocery shopping and return when you have reset and have calmed.

It won't be easy to establish new and better patterns, there will be pushback known as extinction bursts where the other tries to force you to retreat to past appeasing patterns.

And of course she blames me for her disorganized routine, while doing things like visiting her family members at the wrong time even if I advise her to come home for chores like preparing food.

Somehow I'm responsible for her "not having time" and "being too tired".

Hello, there is this difficult situation I have been facing, wife basically makes herself hostage by not eating unless I prepare the food.

She goes out of the house for her day without eating breakfast, and in the streets unless I send money for her to eat in an expensive fine restaurant she likes going to, she just starves through the day, by the end of the day she messages me telling me she is dizzy since she didn't eat anything.

I have tried preparing food for her, but since my schedule is very full, including due to other responsibilities she dropped on me, like working to pay all the bills and caring for our toddler when not in daycare, not always I can prepare that, since in the morning she doesn't wait until I made something for her to eat, she leaves before that, citing she is very busy and has a lot to do and can't waste time waiting for food to be ready.

And in the times I did prepare food, in time, for her to eat and also to take with her, 30% of the times she just brought back the food intact when she arrived home by the end of the day saying she didn't have time to eat or just didn't like the food, while complaining she is starving. She is a picky eater.

She says if she is dizzy and causes a car accident while driving it will be still my fault and I will have to deal with the fallout myself, like stopping my day to go rescue her and our toddler and also paying for damages and all that.
I do have car insurance, but still there could be additional liabilities.

I did say I don't her to hold herself hostage like that, and some days I did not send money and she just starved. Other days she just eats random garbage with money she earns, which isn't much, like sweet popcorn.

I'm trying to not be responsible for that but she just seems to be intent on escalating this further and further, making it as damaging as she can, the more I tell her to organize herself and that I can't help her if she has such a disorganized routine.

Absolutely -- sometimes that feels like the only way out.  BUT IT IS NOT.  It takes a long time to get, but keep trying to hear what's being offered on this site and the pain will ebb and eventually joy will reenter your life.